Australian police in Internet chat room patrols !!!
Jun 9th 2004, 11:09 pm
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Australian police in Internet chat room patrols !!!
RCMP join British, U.S., Australian police in Internet chat room patrols
LONDON (AP) - Police in Britain, Australia, Canada and the United States are planning joint patrols of Internet chat rooms in search of pedophiles, a senior British officer said Wednesday.
Forces from the four countries hope to introduce a "24/7 police presence on the Internet," said Assistant Chief Const. Jim Gamble of the National Crime Squad. Speaking at the end of a three-day meeting involving the squad, the FBI, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Australian Federal Police, Gamble said officers in different countries would take turns to keep a round-the-clock watch on the Net.
While the number of officers assigned to chat patrol is expected to be modest, the forces hope their program will have a deterrent effect.
"We are not looking to occupy every chat room," Gamble said. "We're looking to put a police presence on the Internet in an overt way that reassures people."
He said forces were working on developing a "simple visible logo" to indicate police presence in a chat room.
He would not give details about the cost of the program or the number of officers involved. "I don't think we're talking about devoting massive numbers to this," he said.
In December, police forces from several countries began a collaboration - the Virtual Global Task Force - to crack down on child abuse on the Internet.
Gamble likened the chat room operation to police street patrols.
"People feel safer when police are present, it's as simple as that," he said. "There is no Big Brother initiative here, this is about reassurance through visibility."
Although police could intervene if a child was asked for his or her address while in a chat room, Gamble said officers would not operate undercover to flush out criminals.
Children's charities welcomed the proposal.
"This is an important step forward in protecting children," said Christine Atkinson, Internet safety adviser with the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. "It will help close a major supply line for sex abusers who go to great lengths to gain access to innocent children by grooming them on the Internet."
The initiative follows on an FBI-led operation which has tracked down thousands of people around the world suspected of accessing child pornography over the Internet.
Forces in several countries also have collaborated to set up sites that appear to offer images child pornography but lead to warnings of jail and other penalties for accessing such material.
Gamble said police were lobbying for more powers to seize assets of people convicted of running pay-per-view child porn websites, and pressing credit cards firms to do more to stop customers using plastic to buy pornography.
He said police were seeking legal advice about whether it would be possible to tell credit card companies when their customers were convicted of such offences
LONDON (AP) - Police in Britain, Australia, Canada and the United States are planning joint patrols of Internet chat rooms in search of pedophiles, a senior British officer said Wednesday.
Forces from the four countries hope to introduce a "24/7 police presence on the Internet," said Assistant Chief Const. Jim Gamble of the National Crime Squad. Speaking at the end of a three-day meeting involving the squad, the FBI, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Australian Federal Police, Gamble said officers in different countries would take turns to keep a round-the-clock watch on the Net.
While the number of officers assigned to chat patrol is expected to be modest, the forces hope their program will have a deterrent effect.
"We are not looking to occupy every chat room," Gamble said. "We're looking to put a police presence on the Internet in an overt way that reassures people."
He said forces were working on developing a "simple visible logo" to indicate police presence in a chat room.
He would not give details about the cost of the program or the number of officers involved. "I don't think we're talking about devoting massive numbers to this," he said.
In December, police forces from several countries began a collaboration - the Virtual Global Task Force - to crack down on child abuse on the Internet.
Gamble likened the chat room operation to police street patrols.
"People feel safer when police are present, it's as simple as that," he said. "There is no Big Brother initiative here, this is about reassurance through visibility."
Although police could intervene if a child was asked for his or her address while in a chat room, Gamble said officers would not operate undercover to flush out criminals.
Children's charities welcomed the proposal.
"This is an important step forward in protecting children," said Christine Atkinson, Internet safety adviser with the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. "It will help close a major supply line for sex abusers who go to great lengths to gain access to innocent children by grooming them on the Internet."
The initiative follows on an FBI-led operation which has tracked down thousands of people around the world suspected of accessing child pornography over the Internet.
Forces in several countries also have collaborated to set up sites that appear to offer images child pornography but lead to warnings of jail and other penalties for accessing such material.
Gamble said police were lobbying for more powers to seize assets of people convicted of running pay-per-view child porn websites, and pressing credit cards firms to do more to stop customers using plastic to buy pornography.
He said police were seeking legal advice about whether it would be possible to tell credit card companies when their customers were convicted of such offences
Jun 10th 2004, 5:54 am
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Any thing that helps stop these vile people has got to be a great idea.
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Jun 10th 2004, 5:57 am
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....and how can we apply for the job????? I dont suppose expats would be high on the hit list though would it so perhaps I'm not interested after all
seriously though, you can only hope it works.
seriously though, you can only hope it works.
Jun 10th 2004, 6:05 am
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'allo, 'allo, 'allo, what do we 'ave here then?
Jun 10th 2004, 7:49 am
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Re: Australian police in Internet chat room patrols !!!
Originally posted by mickj
RCMP join British, U.S., Australian police in Internet chat room patrols
LONDON (AP) - Police in Britain, Australia, Canada and the United States are planning joint patrols of Internet chat rooms in search of pedophiles, a senior British officer said Wednesday.
Forces from the four countries hope to introduce a "24/7 police presence on the Internet," said Assistant Chief Const. Jim Gamble of the National Crime Squad. Speaking at the end of a three-day meeting involving the squad, the FBI, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Australian Federal Police, Gamble said officers in different countries would take turns to keep a round-the-clock watch on the Net.
While the number of officers assigned to chat patrol is expected to be modest, the forces hope their program will have a deterrent effect.
"We are not looking to occupy every chat room," Gamble said. "We're looking to put a police presence on the Internet in an overt way that reassures people."
He said forces were working on developing a "simple visible logo" to indicate police presence in a chat room.
He would not give details about the cost of the program or the number of officers involved. "I don't think we're talking about devoting massive numbers to this," he said.
In December, police forces from several countries began a collaboration - the Virtual Global Task Force - to crack down on child abuse on the Internet.
Gamble likened the chat room operation to police street patrols.
"People feel safer when police are present, it's as simple as that," he said. "There is no Big Brother initiative here, this is about reassurance through visibility."
Although police could intervene if a child was asked for his or her address while in a chat room, Gamble said officers would not operate undercover to flush out criminals.
Children's charities welcomed the proposal.
"This is an important step forward in protecting children," said Christine Atkinson, Internet safety adviser with the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. "It will help close a major supply line for sex abusers who go to great lengths to gain access to innocent children by grooming them on the Internet."
The initiative follows on an FBI-led operation which has tracked down thousands of people around the world suspected of accessing child pornography over the Internet.
Forces in several countries also have collaborated to set up sites that appear to offer images child pornography but lead to warnings of jail and other penalties for accessing such material.
Gamble said police were lobbying for more powers to seize assets of people convicted of running pay-per-view child porn websites, and pressing credit cards firms to do more to stop customers using plastic to buy pornography.
He said police were seeking legal advice about whether it would be possible to tell credit card companies when their customers were convicted of such offences
RCMP join British, U.S., Australian police in Internet chat room patrols
LONDON (AP) - Police in Britain, Australia, Canada and the United States are planning joint patrols of Internet chat rooms in search of pedophiles, a senior British officer said Wednesday.
Forces from the four countries hope to introduce a "24/7 police presence on the Internet," said Assistant Chief Const. Jim Gamble of the National Crime Squad. Speaking at the end of a three-day meeting involving the squad, the FBI, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Australian Federal Police, Gamble said officers in different countries would take turns to keep a round-the-clock watch on the Net.
While the number of officers assigned to chat patrol is expected to be modest, the forces hope their program will have a deterrent effect.
"We are not looking to occupy every chat room," Gamble said. "We're looking to put a police presence on the Internet in an overt way that reassures people."
He said forces were working on developing a "simple visible logo" to indicate police presence in a chat room.
He would not give details about the cost of the program or the number of officers involved. "I don't think we're talking about devoting massive numbers to this," he said.
In December, police forces from several countries began a collaboration - the Virtual Global Task Force - to crack down on child abuse on the Internet.
Gamble likened the chat room operation to police street patrols.
"People feel safer when police are present, it's as simple as that," he said. "There is no Big Brother initiative here, this is about reassurance through visibility."
Although police could intervene if a child was asked for his or her address while in a chat room, Gamble said officers would not operate undercover to flush out criminals.
Children's charities welcomed the proposal.
"This is an important step forward in protecting children," said Christine Atkinson, Internet safety adviser with the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. "It will help close a major supply line for sex abusers who go to great lengths to gain access to innocent children by grooming them on the Internet."
The initiative follows on an FBI-led operation which has tracked down thousands of people around the world suspected of accessing child pornography over the Internet.
Forces in several countries also have collaborated to set up sites that appear to offer images child pornography but lead to warnings of jail and other penalties for accessing such material.
Gamble said police were lobbying for more powers to seize assets of people convicted of running pay-per-view child porn websites, and pressing credit cards firms to do more to stop customers using plastic to buy pornography.
He said police were seeking legal advice about whether it would be possible to tell credit card companies when their customers were convicted of such offences
Wonderful idea.... but
Chat Police was used extensively in Ozzy chatrooms, up until about 2 years ago.
I and a few others held a protest to reinstate such Officianados.
Still have the thread and details.
Our main target was AOL, whom for many yrs policed chat rooms, via volunteers who completed a securit course, and passed various tests.
In fact our BEST friends in Oz still Police the childrens rooms, for AOL.
BUT only as hosts.
Furthermore, most aussie chat rooms can be accessed by kids, without any impedance.
Aol are presently being bought out, again, in Oz, and things can only get worse.
The main man for security has just been sacked and 1 team leader and 4 volunteers, police chat rooms and the message boards covering tthe WHOLE internet within Oz, for AOL!!
In return they get a discretionary deal on their dial up packages.
Furthermore, within the UK. The police cannot get personal details of an offender without referring via a LONG process from the ISP.
In my opinion, all ISP's offering chat or online communities, should provide details of the PAID up members accounts, screennames and IP addresses. To a separate organisation whereby their activity if required can be tracked via the Authorities.
Problem with AOl for example and many other ISP;s in relation to Pinging, is they dont have static IP addresses, as many ISP's dont actually own any !!
I think Demon.co.uk is possibly only company that does, and therefore can guarantee a safer level of browsing, via the "accountable and traceable route "
Most problems IMO come from the frivolous account setup in Australia, whereby you can join and leave an ISP at a moments notice !!!
Anyways enough from me
Jun 10th 2004, 7:27 pm
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For anyone watching I'd just like to say.....
evening officer(s)
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Jun 10th 2004, 7:29 pm
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Originally posted by phyonics
For anyone watching I'd just like to say.....
evening officer(s)
For anyone watching I'd just like to say.....
evening officer(s)
Jun 10th 2004, 7:33 pm
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You're nicked son
Originally posted by phyonics
For anyone watching I'd just like to say.....
evening officer(s)
For anyone watching I'd just like to say.....
evening officer(s)
Jun 10th 2004, 7:34 pm
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Re: Australian police in Internet chat room patrols !!!
Do you know how many times you mentioned that service provider there? Gordon Bennett......seems like you've got it in for them. Static IP addresses, how is that going to solve anything, if you are in the know, don't you know what to do?
Originally posted by Timber Floor Au
Wonderful idea.... but
Chat Police was used extensively in Ozzy chatrooms, up until about 2 years ago.
I and a few others held a protest to reinstate such Officianados.
Still have the thread and details.
Our main target was AOL, whom for many yrs policed chat rooms, via volunteers who completed a securit course, and passed various tests.
In fact our BEST friends in Oz still Police the childrens rooms, for AOL.
BUT only as hosts.
Furthermore, most aussie chat rooms can be accessed by kids, without any impedance.
Aol are presently being bought out, again, in Oz, and things can only get worse.
The main man for security has just been sacked and 1 team leader and 4 volunteers, police chat rooms and the message boards covering tthe WHOLE internet within Oz, for AOL!!
In return they get a discretionary deal on their dial up packages.
Furthermore, within the UK. The police cannot get personal details of an offender without referring via a LONG process from the ISP.
In my opinion, all ISP's offering chat or online communities, should provide details of the PAID up members accounts, screennames and IP addresses. To a separate organisation whereby their activity if required can be tracked via the Authorities.
Problem with AOl for example and many other ISP;s in relation to Pinging, is they dont have static IP addresses, as many ISP's dont actually own any !!
I think Demon.co.uk is possibly only company that does, and therefore can guarantee a safer level of browsing, via the "accountable and traceable route "
Most problems IMO come from the frivolous account setup in Australia, whereby you can join and leave an ISP at a moments notice !!!
Anyways enough from me
Wonderful idea.... but
Chat Police was used extensively in Ozzy chatrooms, up until about 2 years ago.
I and a few others held a protest to reinstate such Officianados.
Still have the thread and details.
Our main target was AOL, whom for many yrs policed chat rooms, via volunteers who completed a securit course, and passed various tests.
In fact our BEST friends in Oz still Police the childrens rooms, for AOL.
BUT only as hosts.
Furthermore, most aussie chat rooms can be accessed by kids, without any impedance.
Aol are presently being bought out, again, in Oz, and things can only get worse.
The main man for security has just been sacked and 1 team leader and 4 volunteers, police chat rooms and the message boards covering tthe WHOLE internet within Oz, for AOL!!
In return they get a discretionary deal on their dial up packages.
Furthermore, within the UK. The police cannot get personal details of an offender without referring via a LONG process from the ISP.
In my opinion, all ISP's offering chat or online communities, should provide details of the PAID up members accounts, screennames and IP addresses. To a separate organisation whereby their activity if required can be tracked via the Authorities.
Problem with AOl for example and many other ISP;s in relation to Pinging, is they dont have static IP addresses, as many ISP's dont actually own any !!
I think Demon.co.uk is possibly only company that does, and therefore can guarantee a safer level of browsing, via the "accountable and traceable route "
Most problems IMO come from the frivolous account setup in Australia, whereby you can join and leave an ISP at a moments notice !!!
Anyways enough from me
Last edited by mickj; Jun 10th 2004 at 7:37 pm.
Jun 10th 2004, 7:39 pm
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yes indeed, I wouldn't even consider any sort of even slightly illegal activites ever, not even if you paid me.....for one of my rips of my MP3 CD's, no siree!
Oops! : D
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Oops! : D
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Jun 10th 2004, 7:41 pm
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Originally posted by phyonics
yes indeed, I wouldn't even consider any sort of even slightly illegal activites ever, not even if you paid me.....for one of my rips of my MP3 CD's, no siree!
Oops! : D
Marko
yes indeed, I wouldn't even consider any sort of even slightly illegal activites ever, not even if you paid me.....for one of my rips of my MP3 CD's, no siree!
Oops! : D
Marko
Don't do it kids, it aint worth it.
Jun 10th 2004, 7:45 pm
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There are some great ways of tracking people down eh?
Always good to see the shock on the faces.....well thats if you could see there faces.....and if you could it'd probably end up being Leslie Grantham on the other end! And thats a whole different story
Marko
Always good to see the shock on the faces.....well thats if you could see there faces.....and if you could it'd probably end up being Leslie Grantham on the other end! And thats a whole different story
Marko
Jun 10th 2004, 7:51 pm
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Originally posted by phyonics
.....and if you could it'd probably end up being Leslie Grantham on the other end! And thats a whole different story
.....and if you could it'd probably end up being Leslie Grantham on the other end! And thats a whole different story
Jun 10th 2004, 7:58 pm
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Hmmmmm.....very scary, if only he took security very seriously :scared:
Originally posted by wmoore
I was chatting to my cousing on MSN a few weeks back and he was on about downloading this and that and I told him how easy it was to identify someone on the web. When he scoffed, I went on to tell him who his ISP was, his dial-up account name, version of Windows, logon name and various other things that left him a bit shocked. Don't do it kids, it aint worth it.
I was chatting to my cousing on MSN a few weeks back and he was on about downloading this and that and I told him how easy it was to identify someone on the web. When he scoffed, I went on to tell him who his ISP was, his dial-up account name, version of Windows, logon name and various other things that left him a bit shocked.
Don't do it kids, it aint worth it.
Jun 10th 2004, 8:00 pm
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Yes there is, especially when you keep posting your pics and using your real name on the web 
So tell me, what ways do you know then?
So tell me, what ways do you know then?
Originally posted by phyonics
There are some great ways of tracking people down eh?
Always good to see the shock on the faces.....well thats if you could see there faces.....and if you could it'd probably end up being Leslie Grantham on the other end! And thats a whole different story
Marko
There are some great ways of tracking people down eh?
Always good to see the shock on the faces.....well thats if you could see there faces.....and if you could it'd probably end up being Leslie Grantham on the other end! And thats a whole different story
Marko