Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
Jan 2nd 2015, 12:47 am
#121
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
The alleged doom and gloom has never been any different in England, thanks in large part to a very competitive tabloid press and on the other hand a population that doesn't necessary want to be fed on the manta of how good we are or worse the best of everything.
Many aware Aussies feel a sense that things are far from alright. Whether the negatives are highlighted as in UK or only lightly touched upon, if at all in Australia it hardly makes a difference. House prices are out of reach of many first home buyers and work that is not short term contracts or casual is harder to find. 31% youth are un/under employed which is high in any language. Older people are wondering if they can afford retirement with the high costs.
We are principally a consumerist society and all that that entails. California Lite.
Many aware Aussies feel a sense that things are far from alright. Whether the negatives are highlighted as in UK or only lightly touched upon, if at all in Australia it hardly makes a difference. House prices are out of reach of many first home buyers and work that is not short term contracts or casual is harder to find. 31% youth are un/under employed which is high in any language. Older people are wondering if they can afford retirement with the high costs.
We are principally a consumerist society and all that that entails. California Lite.
Media scare / fear mongering isn't limited to UK press, our guys have been taking notes from theirs.
There are changes afoot all planned by more influential folk than us and all is not well in most parts of the world, I feel oz is a testing ground sometimes for legislations that are coming to a town near you.
What they want us to hear is more important than what we need to be hearing.
A Gov't always benefits financially from giving the masses an enemy to hate, it's an easy sell, the gullible fall for it.
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Jan 2nd 2015, 4:58 am
#122
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
You've got it figured !!
Media scare / fear mongering isn't limited to UK press, our guys have been taking notes from theirs.
There are changes afoot all planned by more influential folk than us and all is not well in most parts of the world, I feel oz is a testing ground sometimes for legislations that are coming to a town near you.
What they want us to hear is more important than what we need to be hearing.
A Gov't always benefits financially from giving the masses an enemy to hate, it's an easy sell, the gullible fall for it.
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Media scare / fear mongering isn't limited to UK press, our guys have been taking notes from theirs.
There are changes afoot all planned by more influential folk than us and all is not well in most parts of the world, I feel oz is a testing ground sometimes for legislations that are coming to a town near you.
What they want us to hear is more important than what we need to be hearing.
A Gov't always benefits financially from giving the masses an enemy to hate, it's an easy sell, the gullible fall for it.
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Jan 2nd 2015, 7:59 am
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
Oh now ya' sweet-talking !! Sounds brilliant.
Sydney drivers no diff I'm sure, they hate bikes/bikers here with a passion and know the coppers will usually side with them, at 61(43 on big bikes) I've survived riding defensively keeping the attitude every SOB steel cage is your enemy and out to kill you.
The Amalficoast Italy few friends tell me, shown me their pics riding there also sounds fantastic as well.
BTW-Happy new year to all
(Yes Santa can use it too)
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Sydney drivers no diff I'm sure, they hate bikes/bikers here with a passion and know the coppers will usually side with them, at 61(43 on big bikes) I've survived riding defensively keeping the attitude every SOB steel cage is your enemy and out to kill you.
The Amalficoast Italy few friends tell me, shown me their pics riding there also sounds fantastic as well.
BTW-Happy new year to all
(Yes Santa can use it too)
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Jan 2nd 2015, 9:04 am
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
Jan 2nd 2015, 9:48 am
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
I think you'll find that the visa requirements are one issue and the older you get the more security you want. Many people can never really settle in Australia and realise it's not paradise. As Europeans, Europe has a great climate and with the right of free movement you have many options. I live in Ireland myself and have seen so many return from Australia in the last 2 years. One reason is it's home, cheaper real estate and the job market is picking up again. I can fly to London from Dublin in less than 1 hour 20 mins, Lisbon or Barcelona in 2 hours 40 mins etc. There are plenty of reasons, but for most it will also be family.
Jan 2nd 2015, 9:54 am
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
Exactly right verystormy.
Sydney N.S.W. to Perth W.A. is 42 hours (3,938.2 km) via National Highway A1
Australia is larger than USA(not inc Hawaii / Alaska)
Then England is around the same size as our 2nd smallest state Victoria.
I have ridden many many times syd - perth in just under 3 days.
A motorcycle ride for my daughter and I from Spain to Italy in an early start day should be no effort at all.
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Sydney N.S.W. to Perth W.A. is 42 hours (3,938.2 km) via National Highway A1
Australia is larger than USA(not inc Hawaii / Alaska)
Then England is around the same size as our 2nd smallest state Victoria.
I have ridden many many times syd - perth in just under 3 days.
A motorcycle ride for my daughter and I from Spain to Italy in an early start day should be no effort at all.
http://www.britzinoz.com/wp-content/...aus-europe.jpg
Jan 2nd 2015, 9:58 am
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
Struggling to edit your quote on this stupid phone but I wanted to pick out your 'people are so optimistic here' comment.
Trust me, not many here are. It's all doom and gloom. The news is full of doom and gloom. The papers - Ebola, air crashes, people going missing, murders, shootings, dawn terror raids - it's constant negativity. It's why I want out. Even if just for a few month.
If I do have kids, ideally I don't want them raised here in england. The schools near me have 60 different languages in em. Hardly ideal is it?
Hopefully I'll get to meet some of you soon. A familiarity upon my arrival would help me immensely.
Trust me, not many here are. It's all doom and gloom. The news is full of doom and gloom. The papers - Ebola, air crashes, people going missing, murders, shootings, dawn terror raids - it's constant negativity. It's why I want out. Even if just for a few month.
If I do have kids, ideally I don't want them raised here in england. The schools near me have 60 different languages in em. Hardly ideal is it?
Hopefully I'll get to meet some of you soon. A familiarity upon my arrival would help me immensely.
It's funny you know, you think England is in a mess with all the social problems it has going on, but it's not until you come and live in Australia that you realise it's just the same here. I can not stress that enough. Don't be wooed by all the stimulating adverts/programmes you see on TV and in magazines. They are never going to show you the downside of the coin and just like England, Australia has one.
The flip side of the coin however - the positive side, is just like England it has some great things going for it too.
It really is swings and roundabouts, they both take you on a ride, it just depends which way you want to go.
If you are really unhappy where you are, then I guess you've nothing to lose. Also the fact you've no kids will make the move far less complicated and easier for you. Give it a go, as long as you are realistic in your expectations you'll probably be pleasantly surprised. Good luck Steel, btw when are thinking of coming out here?
Jan 2nd 2015, 9:58 am
#128
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
A low population density of 2 persons per km
2
.
A high level of urbanisation
–
89 percent live in
urban areas.
A concentration within capital cities
–
65 percent.
A strong coastal orientation with 82 percent living within 50
km of
the coast.
An uneven density
–
90.5 percent of the people live on 0.22 percent of the land area with a density of 100 persons or more per km
2
while 0.34 percent of the population live on 84.2 percent of the land area at a density of 0.1 persons or less per km
2
Jan 2nd 2015, 10:13 am
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http://www.adelaide.edu.au/apmrc/pubs/policy-briefs/APMRC_Policy_Brief_Vol_1_3_2013.pdf
A low population density of 2 persons per km
2
.
A high level of urbanisation
–
89 percent live in
urban areas.
A concentration within capital cities
–
65 percent.
A strong coastal orientation with 82 percent living within 50
km of
the coast.
An uneven density
–
90.5 percent of the people live on 0.22 percent of the land area with a density of 100 persons or more per km
2
while 0.34 percent of the population live on 84.2 percent of the land area at a density of 0.1 persons or less per km
2
A low population density of 2 persons per km
2
.
A high level of urbanisation
–
89 percent live in
urban areas.
A concentration within capital cities
–
65 percent.
A strong coastal orientation with 82 percent living within 50
km of
the coast.
An uneven density
–
90.5 percent of the people live on 0.22 percent of the land area with a density of 100 persons or more per km
2
while 0.34 percent of the population live on 84.2 percent of the land area at a density of 0.1 persons or less per km
2
Jan 2nd 2015, 10:21 am
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
It's funny you know, you think England is in a mess with all the social problems it has going on, but it's not until you come and live in Australia that you realise it's just the same here. I can not stress that enough. Don't be wooed by all the stimulating adverts/programmes you see on TV and in magazines. They are never going to show you the downside of the coin and just like England, Australia has one.
The flip side of the coin however - the positive side, is just like England it has some great things going for it too.
It really is swings and roundabouts, they both take you on a ride, it just depends which way you want to go.
If you are really unhappy where you are, then I guess you've nothing to lose. Also the fact you've no kids will make the move far less complicated and easier for you. Give it a go, as long as you are realistic in your expectations you'll probably be pleasantly surprised. Good luck Steel, btw when are thinking of coming out here?
The flip side of the coin however - the positive side, is just like England it has some great things going for it too.
It really is swings and roundabouts, they both take you on a ride, it just depends which way you want to go.
If you are really unhappy where you are, then I guess you've nothing to lose. Also the fact you've no kids will make the move far less complicated and easier for you. Give it a go, as long as you are realistic in your expectations you'll probably be pleasantly surprised. Good luck Steel, btw when are thinking of coming out here?
Jan 2nd 2015, 10:27 am
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
Horses for courses isn't it? Its those lovely nights when I'm doing a BBQ on my balcony, swilling a fine Australian Shiraz and looking at the stars that I feel this place is wonderful. Yet other times it seems like a bogan shit hole. I've never been mad about this place to be honest but I needed a change from the cold.
Jan 2nd 2015, 10:27 am
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I think the best way to deal with it if you know you're here for the long run is to embrace the positives and try and shrug off the negatives otherwise it'll end up driving you mad!
Jan 2nd 2015, 10:35 am
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Coping any better now? Hope so
.January and February suck.
My choice today, bvegas 28 and 80% humidity. = Sweat.
Melbourne 38 and 8% humidity. = Burn.
Jan 2nd 2015, 10:50 am
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Wake up, beautiful lush green acerage, as natural as it was 100 years ago, wallabies, echidnas, lizards, tiny tropical birds.
Day gets hotter, start to wilt, idiotic politicians, or media, or bogans, insular annoying, start to hate it.
Nightime, watch a thousand stars from the bedroom windows, silence except the owls, the frogs in the forest, you wonder how lucky you can be.
Much to love, much to hate, but I think once you have travelled, that will be the case anywhere, always something somewhere else you miss.
Jan 2nd 2015, 12:06 pm
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Re: Australia is too bloody far away....from everything
I thought the weather was the reason everyone came to Australia. What other reason could there be?
.....and I had Chianti with my BBQ
.....and I had Chianti with my BBQ