Grayling

Have you been drinking.....what has South Africa got to do with anything?

...and who has said anything about big walls?

aussietobe

Be specific about freedoms you have lost. thanks. Oh and the data retention legislation is based on European laws.

old.sparkles

If you keep posting random comments, it makes things difficult to follow. Please use the quote function, or at the very least state who you are responding to.

Thanks

aussietobe

The woman said people live behind fortifications, ie big walls. If she meant psychological barriers that is something else entirely. But people DO NOT live behind fortifications in Australia.

aussietobe

I am clicking the reply button so not sure what is going wrong.

aussietobe

Ok, realised I have to click quote message in reply...

aussietobe

This is for Grayling.

old.sparkles

There is also the quote button at the right hand side of a post. Clicking this should open a reply window

verystormy

Have you ever actually driven anywhere in Oz? I just did Wiluna to Kal. Desert for 6 hours.

Want to go from East to west - expect the most boring trip of life.

Moses2013

Can imagine it being very boring. I drove from Calais to Frankfurt last year in less than 6 hours. Imagine 4 different countries in such a short time (France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany). Ok, motorway can get boring too, but a lot of the journey was off the motorway.

Blackey_Oz

Exactly right verystormy.
Sydney N.S.W. to Perth W.A. is 42 hours (3,938.2 km) via National Highway A1
Australia is larger than USA(not inc Hawaii / Alaska)
Then England is around the same size as our 2nd smallest state Victoria.
I have ridden many many times syd - perth in just under 3 days.
A motorcycle ride for my daughter and I from Spain to Italy in an early start day should be no effort at all.

Grayling

I haven't got a clue what you are on about....I never said any of that

Moses2013

I think he means the post from the troubadour:

The woman continued, Perth's a beautiful city as well, but people live behind fortifications to a large extent. The other agreed. As do I.

Bix

If you still have the knack he could ride from Australia to China.

Beoz

Good map. Just shows how big Europe actually is.

Here's some tips.

I drove from Aberdeen to London in a weekend. All motorway because I had to do it in a weekend. Very boring except for leaving the motorway and seeing the Lakes District. You see my point. You still need time. You want to not be on the motorway to get good value.

Same on the continent. If you are motorway driving its quick but boring as hell. All the good stuff is off the motorway which again is time and lots of it but great if you have it.

If you are living and working you can throw time out the window.