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Old Jul 25th 2009, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Maybe I should have put a 4 bed version on instead then...

From the same Duplex range, but a higher price bracket... $213,100 compared to $146,100 for the first one

http://www.dixonhomes.com.au/plansea.../ARTHURTON.GIF
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Old Jul 25th 2009, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by Officer Dibble
Confusion is often the result when people start using Americanisms outside of America. Duplex ffs? Its a half a house or a semi. So what is a maisonette or a bungalow?
Americanisms ?

The american definition of Duplex is:
duplex house – a house having separate apartments for two families, esp. a two-story house having a complete apartment on each floor and two separate entrances.

Not quite the same as a QLD Duplex...

The word Duplex, according to a few websites, originated in America in 1935'ish, however, it was also used in the UK in the 1920's.

So a British word is now used in Australia, and called an Americanism

How the world goes round to suit ...
 
Old Jul 25th 2009, 7:26 am
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Originally Posted by Deancm
Dog boxes...
That I will not argue with.

I am glad to have got away from that type of living... a decent sized 'detached' house is something I never dreamt of, whilst living in the UK.
 
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Default Re: Is Australia an oversold country?

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Americanisms ?

The american definition of Duplex is:
duplex house – a house having separate apartments for two families, esp. a two-story house having a complete apartment on each floor and two separate entrances.

Not quite the same as a QLD Duplex...

The word Duplex, according to a few websites, originated in America in 1935'ish, however, it was also used in the UK in the 1920's.

So a British word is now used in Australia, and called an Americanism

How the world goes round to suit ...

To suit? So where the hell did semi detached come from?

I thought we were talking about an Australian 'duplex'. Britain doesnt come into it.
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Old Jul 25th 2009, 9:08 am
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To suit? So where the hell did semi detached come from?

I thought we were talking about an Australian 'duplex'. Britain doesnt come into it.
Nor does America....
 
Old Jul 25th 2009, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by Officer Dibble
So what is a maisonette or a bungalow?
They are English words, I thought we were talking about an Australian terms...
 
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
They are English words, I thought we were talking about an Australian terms...
Maisonette and bungalow are used quite often in Australia.
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In reply to the title, here are my thoughts. I have been to australia, but never lived there. I am half way thru the visa process and and currently re-considering. Pity I can't get my money back. As I get more into the costs, the visa restrictions, and all other things, removals, the jobs, the xyz other issues, the accomodation...and of course the tax implications...i am coming to the conclusion...maybe i have wasted my money.

here is my list of irritations
- buying stuff is harder, more ripoffs, less choice. dont have an amazon, need to ship from the states. while not a long term issue, hard work if you want to emigrate
- coles is a light year from waitrose.
- all the tax rules are pissing me off, especially all the foreign funds crap. it appears they want to tax me if i hold a UK currency account, i pay CGT on that.
- kevin rudd, very irritating socialist. does he stand a chance of keeping power, yes, and it is a big negative.
- the climate in oz is supposed to be better, well, maybe...but as I am discovering, it gets seriously hot, and attracts all the amazing flies, midgies and weird viruses. live in fear while camping it seems. wasnt the outdoor life supposed to be a big plus?
- far from everywhere. check out late availabilty flights to the UK...oh my
- lack of anything cultural. it is american, you drive, you shop, you go home, thats it.
- i could go on.

OK, maybe my mood will change, and i am sure other people have thought about these issues, but as i do research, i see that is it MORE expensive to live in australia, while accepting LESS pay, plus the whole gamble costs thousands..and there seems to be a lot of people returning...i am starting to wonder.
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Originally Posted by under35
In reply to the title, here are my thoughts. I have been to australia, but never lived there. I am half way thru the visa process and and currently re-considering. Pity I can't get my money back. As I get more into the costs, the visa restrictions, and all other things, removals, the jobs, the xyz other issues, the accomodation...and of course the tax implications...i am coming to the conclusion...maybe i have wasted my money.

here is my list of irritations
- buying stuff is harder, more ripoffs, less choice. dont have an amazon, need to ship from the states. while not a long term issue, hard work if you want to emigrate
- coles is a light year from waitrose.
- all the tax rules are pissing me off, especially all the foreign funds crap. it appears they want to tax me if i hold a UK currency account, i pay CGT on that.
- kevin rudd, very irritating socialist. does he stand a chance of keeping power, yes, and it is a big negative.
- the climate in oz is supposed to be better, well, maybe...but as I am discovering, it gets seriously hot, and attracts all the amazing flies, midgies and weird viruses. live in fear while camping it seems. wasnt the outdoor life supposed to be a big plus?
- far from everywhere. check out late availabilty flights to the UK...oh my
- lack of anything cultural. it is american, you drive, you shop, you go home, thats it.
- i could go on.

OK, maybe my mood will change, and i am sure other people have thought about these issues, but as i do research, i see that is it MORE expensive to live in australia, while accepting LESS pay, plus the whole gamble costs thousands..and there seems to be a lot of people returning...i am starting to wonder.
don't bail out now. they need all the foreign sucker money they can get to prop the ponzi scheme a little bit longer.
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Old Jul 26th 2009, 1:48 am
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Originally Posted by under35
- far from everywhere. check out late availabilty flights to the UK...oh my
That point alone begs the question... where is "everywhere" to you ?

If "everywhere" to you only includes places that are NOT near Australia, then maybe Australia is not a good choice, for "you".

It amazes me that some people never really worked out that Australia is not the best place to live, if they want to holiday in UK or Europe all the time.

Those people who move to various parts of Australia and like the location of for the places they wish to visit, Pacific Islands, other parts of the Australian continent, New Zealand, South East Asia, etc, will have a very different attitude to those who always want to pop back to the UK, or Paris or Milan etc for their annual holidays.
 
Old Jul 26th 2009, 1:52 am
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Originally Posted by under35
OK, maybe my mood will change, and i am sure other people have thought about these issues, but as i do research, i see that is it MORE expensive to live in australia, while accepting LESS pay, plus the whole gamble costs thousands..and there seems to be a lot of people returning...i am starting to wonder.
With the average wage in Australia being higher than the average wage in the UK, it stands to reason that wages, on "average" are actually HIGHER in Australia, not LESS ?

Some people find the cost of living higher, some find it lower, it obviously varies. But those people that shop in Supermarkets, the normal way for the British, will no doubt find it more expensive here.
 
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Originally Posted by Deancm
Maisonette and bungalow are used quite often in Australia.
Only by Poms.
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Default Re: Is Australia an oversold country?

Originally Posted by under35
In reply to the title, here are my thoughts. I have been to australia, but never lived there. I am half way thru the visa process and and currently re-considering. Pity I can't get my money back. As I get more into the costs, the visa restrictions, and all other things, removals, the jobs, the xyz other issues, the accomodation...and of course the tax implications...i am coming to the conclusion...maybe i have wasted my money.

here is my list of irritations
- buying stuff is harder, more ripoffs, less choice. dont have an amazon, need to ship from the states. while not a long term issue, hard work if you want to emigrate
- coles is a light year from waitrose.
- all the tax rules are pissing me off, especially all the foreign funds crap. it appears they want to tax me if i hold a UK currency account, i pay CGT on that.
- kevin rudd, very irritating socialist. does he stand a chance of keeping power, yes, and it is a big negative.
- the climate in oz is supposed to be better, well, maybe...but as I am discovering, it gets seriously hot, and attracts all the amazing flies, midgies and weird viruses. live in fear while camping it seems. wasnt the outdoor life supposed to be a big plus?
- far from everywhere. check out late availabilty flights to the UK...oh my
- lack of anything cultural. it is american, you drive, you shop, you go home, thats it.
- i could go on.

OK, maybe my mood will change, and i am sure other people have thought about these issues, but as i do research, i see that is it MORE expensive to live in australia, while accepting LESS pay, plus the whole gamble costs thousands..and there seems to be a lot of people returning...i am starting to wonder.
It sounds like Australia will be perfect for you

But seriously, you've listed some negatives but surely they should be weighed up against the postives? For example amazing beaches, great place for the kids, lots of space, more house for your money, etc....
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Default Re: Is Australia an oversold country?

Originally Posted by under35
In reply to the title, here are my thoughts. I have been to australia, but never lived there. I am half way thru the visa process and and currently re-considering. Pity I can't get my money back. As I get more into the costs, the visa restrictions, and all other things, removals, the jobs, the xyz other issues, the accomodation...and of course the tax implications...i am coming to the conclusion...maybe i have wasted my money.

here is my list of irritations
- buying stuff is harder, more ripoffs, less choice. dont have an amazon, need to ship from the states. while not a long term issue, hard work if you want to emigrate
- coles is a light year from waitrose.
- all the tax rules are pissing me off, especially all the foreign funds crap. it appears they want to tax me if i hold a UK currency account, i pay CGT on that.
- kevin rudd, very irritating socialist. does he stand a chance of keeping power, yes, and it is a big negative.
- the climate in oz is supposed to be better, well, maybe...but as I am discovering, it gets seriously hot, and attracts all the amazing flies, midgies and weird viruses. live in fear while camping it seems. wasnt the outdoor life supposed to be a big plus?
- far from everywhere. check out late availabilty flights to the UK...oh my
- lack of anything cultural. it is american, you drive, you shop, you go home, thats it.
- i could go on.

OK, maybe my mood will change, and i am sure other people have thought about these issues, but as i do research, i see that is it MORE expensive to live in australia, while accepting LESS pay, plus the whole gamble costs thousands..and there seems to be a lot of people returning...i am starting to wonder.
You need a good reason to uproot and migrate to Aus. Not so for Oz, just a belief that it has got to be there.
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Default Re: Is Australia an oversold country?

Originally Posted by under35
In reply to the title, here are my thoughts. I have been to australia, but never lived there. I am half way thru the visa process and and currently re-considering. Pity I can't get my money back. As I get more into the costs, the visa restrictions, and all other things, removals, the jobs, the xyz other issues, the accomodation...and of course the tax implications...i am coming to the conclusion...maybe i have wasted my money.

here is my list of irritations
- buying stuff is harder, more ripoffs, less choice. dont have an amazon, need to ship from the states. while not a long term issue, hard work if you want to emigrate
- coles is a light year from waitrose.
- all the tax rules are pissing me off, especially all the foreign funds crap. it appears they want to tax me if i hold a UK currency account, i pay CGT on that.
- kevin rudd, very irritating socialist. does he stand a chance of keeping power, yes, and it is a big negative.
- the climate in oz is supposed to be better, well, maybe...but as I am discovering, it gets seriously hot, and attracts all the amazing flies, midgies and weird viruses. live in fear while camping it seems. wasnt the outdoor life supposed to be a big plus?
- far from everywhere. check out late availabilty flights to the UK...oh my
- lack of anything cultural. it is american, you drive, you shop, you go home, thats it.
- i could go on.

OK, maybe my mood will change, and i am sure other people have thought about these issues, but as i do research, i see that is it MORE expensive to live in australia, while accepting LESS pay, plus the whole gamble costs thousands..and there seems to be a lot of people returning...i am starting to wonder.
Australia is not for you.
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