Is Australia officially in a Recession
#121
Re: Is Australia officially in a Recession
The problem is that 25% of Australia's exports go to China, and about 60% of that is iron ore. In other words over 15% of Australia's economy just got slapped. What irritates me is that this was 100% predictable because the Chinese slowdown is planned, so I hope the Government has put a good plan in place to take up the slack.
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Re: Is Australia officially in a Recession
But a country's ability to import relies on ability to export. If exports fall off, Aussies wont be able to consume as much foreign goods any more. This is also why the EU and US economies are so bleak looking into the future - the policymakers keep trying to motor up internal demand instead of focusing on productivity and exports, so their economy stays stagnated.
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3.7% growth. I don't think the UK has had figures like this in the last ten years.
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But a country's ability to import relies on ability to export. If exports fall off, Aussies wont be able to consume as much foreign goods any more. This is also why the EU and US economies are so bleak looking into the future - the policymakers keep trying to motor up internal demand instead of focusing on productivity and exports, so their economy stays stagnated.
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importing goods and consuming them is largely the end goal of economic activity. so if exports drop, it is harder to achieve end goal. Stimulating demand doesnt increase exports so it doesn't help achieve the end goal.
#126
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yes but if by a depreciating currency (because of weak exports) the local produce becomes more competitive is it not possible to replace some if not all the imports?
and there are still available cushions to australian policy makers: low budget imbalance (higher ability to fund stimulus), high interest rates (can be dropped to stoke demand) and high AUD (can fall
and mitigate the effect of lower export volumes with higher/stable value in AUD terms, and possibly support domestic production and tourism).
i am still confident in australia relative to the world.
and there are still available cushions to australian policy makers: low budget imbalance (higher ability to fund stimulus), high interest rates (can be dropped to stoke demand) and high AUD (can fall
and mitigate the effect of lower export volumes with higher/stable value in AUD terms, and possibly support domestic production and tourism).
i am still confident in australia relative to the world.
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Yes but everything else has gone up massively such as the cost of electricity, petrol, water, house insurance, car insurance, rates, Internet etc so the fact that the price of eggs and milk is a bit cheaper makes sod all difference to the overall cost of living.
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Australians are really struggling in their humongous houses! Driving their big 4x4s, that's why they are so thin and fit, they can't afford to eat, Oh wait a minute, aren't they one of the fattest nations in the world? Doesn't add up somehow.
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The contraction in mining is going to hit WA like a brick in the face. What worries me is that most of the uranium is in SA, and that could mean a boom here. Olympic Dam might mean we are spared though - for now.
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Seems to me we are on the brink of supermarket price 'war', or at least the signs are encouraging.
There has been progress.
There has been progress.
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My football going mate is bemoaning the fact actually, as he is a Woolworths manager and they have to move around far more pallets of goods = equates to far heavier work, to make the same amount of profit... which means he actually has to do a lot more physical work to save on staffing v costs.. They are far less profitable than they were in 2009. I tell him, Aldis are still cheaper, and even he shops there... has to go to one a couple of suburbs away as it's not good for him to be seen in one.
The chains are even buying up suppliers and farms.... just like the UK.
Last edited by ozzieeagle; Sep 11th 2012 at 4:27 am.
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Here in WA mining giant FMG (Fortescue Metals Group) is slashing 1,000 jobs because of the big drop in the price of iron ore and BHP Billiton, the world's biggest mining company,shelved $50 billion worth of projects including the outer Harbour project at Port Hedland which has meant job losses in WA.
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