Australia like Usa?
May 16th 2009, 2:22 am
#31
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Re: Australia like Usa?
United States of Australia
May 16th 2009, 3:05 am
#32
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Re: Australia like Usa?
Very nice part of the world it is too.
May 16th 2009, 8:48 am
#34
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My brother's wife is American, and she found Australia very different to the USA (as did my brother when he visited the US).
May 16th 2009, 9:15 am
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My point was that reliious education in Austrtalia is supported by the state. I do not recall private education having anywhere near as much a subsidy in the UK or US.
May 16th 2009, 9:33 am
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Re: Australia like Usa?
OK a basic cultural analysis
1 Sport
UK - Football - Cricket - Rugby Union - League
Australia AFL - League - Cricket - Football
US - Grid iron - basketball - Baseball
2 TV
UK BBC and imported US TV
Aus - ABC (lots of Beeb imports) and lots of imported US TV
US - US TV
3 Institutions
All three countries law systems have a similiar base. Australia and the UK have the same figure head head of state. Australia and the US have elected upper houses. All three countries have stable democracies, capitalist economies and watch the Simpsons.
I have spent about 4 months in the US primarily in Oklahoma. Suburban US and Australian housing and shopping bare a lot of similiarities however city life is different.
4 - History
The US kicked the Brits out and set out on their own. Australia still has not quite managed it. As far as wars go the main variance was Vietnam where when Britain decided not to participate. The US late entry to the great wars also marks a large difference. Although Australia as a nation got a great awakening from Gallipoli and the trenched of WWI there is still a huge amount of shared history.
Frankly the amount of Brits here, the larlge amount of BBC TV and the huge sporting rivalry with Britain indicates to me that Australia is far closer culturally to the nations of its monarch than the US. The permeation of US culture globally and our common roots and military alliances indicates that we are not that different, especially compared to the less mature democracies of the world.
1 Sport
UK - Football - Cricket - Rugby Union - League
Australia AFL - League - Cricket - Football
US - Grid iron - basketball - Baseball
2 TV
UK BBC and imported US TV
Aus - ABC (lots of Beeb imports) and lots of imported US TV
US - US TV
3 Institutions
All three countries law systems have a similiar base. Australia and the UK have the same figure head head of state. Australia and the US have elected upper houses. All three countries have stable democracies, capitalist economies and watch the Simpsons.
I have spent about 4 months in the US primarily in Oklahoma. Suburban US and Australian housing and shopping bare a lot of similiarities however city life is different.
4 - History
The US kicked the Brits out and set out on their own. Australia still has not quite managed it. As far as wars go the main variance was Vietnam where when Britain decided not to participate. The US late entry to the great wars also marks a large difference. Although Australia as a nation got a great awakening from Gallipoli and the trenched of WWI there is still a huge amount of shared history.
Frankly the amount of Brits here, the larlge amount of BBC TV and the huge sporting rivalry with Britain indicates to me that Australia is far closer culturally to the nations of its monarch than the US. The permeation of US culture globally and our common roots and military alliances indicates that we are not that different, especially compared to the less mature democracies of the world.
May 16th 2009, 9:38 am
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I do not recall private education having anywhere near as much a subsidy in the UK or US.
These schools accommodate almost 1 million children. That's an awful lot of state-sponsored religious schools, and an awful lot of state-sponsored religious education.
May 16th 2009, 9:44 am
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I believe the US constitution has a separation of Church and state. To get around this luddites decided to start the teaching of creation in schools. This was deemed religious and banned. Not to be defeated a new movement pushed an idea called Intelligent Design. Another pile of crap designed to poo poo Darwin.
The US has a very strong evangelical christian movement that is also politically powerful however its influence has split the republican party.
Its almost as if the UK resents the official nature of religion in the state and the US rebels against the constitution.
The US has a very strong evangelical christian movement that is also politically powerful however its influence has split the republican party.
Its almost as if the UK resents the official nature of religion in the state and the US rebels against the constitution.
May 16th 2009, 9:53 am
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My experience of religious education is that it seems to provoke a reaction to agnosticism or atheism. You will also find the religious element in the state schools quite diminished when compared to something like the Catholic schooling I attended,
Paradoxically the US has a segregation of church and state yet my anecdotal observations of the nation is that America has a much larger evangelical influence. I recall people knocking on the door attempting to sign us up to their church after moving to Oklahoma.
My anecdotal observations of Australians of religion is that they are as indifferent as the English.
Paradoxically the US has a segregation of church and state yet my anecdotal observations of the nation is that America has a much larger evangelical influence. I recall people knocking on the door attempting to sign us up to their church after moving to Oklahoma.
My anecdotal observations of Australians of religion is that they are as indifferent as the English.
More accurately, private religious schools are supported by the state.
Possibly not, but I think the main reason for this is that unlike Australia, the 5,000 Anglican schools in England and Wales are state schools (whereas they would be private schools in Australia).
These schools accommodate almost 1 million children. That's an awful lot of state-sponsored religious schools, and an awful lot of state-sponsored religious education.
Possibly not, but I think the main reason for this is that unlike Australia, the 5,000 Anglican schools in England and Wales are state schools (whereas they would be private schools in Australia).
These schools accommodate almost 1 million children. That's an awful lot of state-sponsored religious schools, and an awful lot of state-sponsored religious education.
May 16th 2009, 10:11 am
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It has been a while since I went to school
May 16th 2009, 10:34 am
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They still do RE.
This is a sample of what may be offered
Under the Education Act 1996 schools must provide RE for all registered pupils, although parents can choose to withdraw their children. Schools, other than voluntary-aided schools and those of a religious character, must teach religious education according to the locally agreed syllabus. Each agreed syllabus should reflect the fact that the religious traditions in Great Britain are in the main Christian, while taking account of the teachings and practices of the other principal religions represented in Great Britain.:
The DfES/QCA RE schemes of work can be adapted to reflect changes in the local community. It is essential to note that the existing schemes of work do not match the programmes of study in the non-statutory national framework. The current schemes will be revised to take greater account of the framework.
Several of the key stage 1 and key stage 2 RE units are suitable for adaptation:
Unit RA ‘What are harvest festivals?’
Unit 1A ‘What does it mean to belong?’ - Generic
Unit 1D ‘Beliefs and practice’ - Generic
Unit 2C ‘Celebrations’ - Generic
Unit 2D ‘Visiting a place of worship’ - Generic
Unit 3A ‘What do signs and symbols mean in religion?’
Unit 3E ‘What is faith and what difference does it make?’
Unit 4D ‘What religions are represented in our neighbourhood?’
Unit 6A ‘Worship and community’ - Generic
Unit 6C ‘Why are sacred texts important?’ - Generic
Unit 6F ‘How do people express their faith through the arts?’
Several of the key stage 1 and key stage 2 RE units are suitable for adaptation:
Unit RA ‘What are harvest festivals?’
Unit 1A ‘What does it mean to belong?’ - Generic
Unit 1D ‘Beliefs and practice’ - Generic
Unit 2C ‘Celebrations’ - Generic
Unit 2D ‘Visiting a place of worship’ - Generic
Unit 3A ‘What do signs and symbols mean in religion?’
Unit 3E ‘What is faith and what difference does it make?’
Unit 4D ‘What religions are represented in our neighbourhood?’
Unit 6A ‘Worship and community’ - Generic
Unit 6C ‘Why are sacred texts important?’ - Generic
Unit 6F ‘How do people express their faith through the arts?’
May 16th 2009, 11:32 am
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Re: Australia like Usa?
Is it like the USA? Well it has Kmart, KFC, McDonalds, Target a better version of Burger King in the guise of Hungry Jacks, strip malls and no real town centre in newer developments (except some shopping centre) but its not like USA as its got great beers !! 
Seriously tho I have lived in both and they do have similarities but then again it also has many more with UK Ireland Canada NZ etc etc. The only thing for certain is that it is definitely Australia and its different. You will love it or hate it on your terms.
Number one similarity is ......they both speak English, well a version anyway
Seriously tho I have lived in both and they do have similarities but then again it also has many more with UK Ireland Canada NZ etc etc. The only thing for certain is that it is definitely Australia and its different. You will love it or hate it on your terms.
Number one similarity is ......they both speak English, well a version anyway
May 17th 2009, 1:56 am
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A non religious school can have RE. An overtly religious school will have prayers, ceremonies and celebrate the religion's festivals.
May 17th 2009, 3:08 am
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The first one sounds like my daughters faith based school here. Very little in the way of religion, like prayers etc. Just the basic stuff to try to teach tolerence, friendship, loyalty etc.