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RedDragon2008 Nov 21st 2012 8:42 am

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10393890)
Not saying I agree but wouldnt be the first time I have heard that said.

A moving truck was temporily blocking parking bays outside the office this morning.

No dramas, just parked 400 metres down the road and walked back, logged on and went outside to visit the local cafe for coffee.

Mean while the 2 cars who arrived same time as me are still waiting for the truck to move:blink:

commonwealth Nov 21st 2012 9:08 am

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Originally Posted by RedDragon2008 (Post 10393881)
Mainly because Australians are allergic to "hard" work

i think most first world people are allergic to hard work, look at the manual labourers in developed countries.

but i think australia has a higher proportion of trades than many other developed countries where degrees are highly sought after.

moneypenny20 Nov 21st 2012 11:22 am

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Originally Posted by RedDragon2008 (Post 10393964)
A moving truck was temporily blocking parking bays outside the office this morning.

No dramas, just parked 400 metres down the road and walked back, logged on and went outside to visit the local cafe for coffee.

Mean while the 2 cars who arrived same time as me are still waiting for the truck to move:blink:

Which obviously confirms 100% that all Australians are bone idle. Your comment is as valid as the rubbish press in the UK banging on about how all Brits must be bone idle or the Polish wouldn't come in and take their jobs. Complete bull and totally patronising. Imo obviously.

RedDragon2008 Nov 21st 2012 11:52 am

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 10394209)
Which obviously confirms 100% that all Australians are bone idle. Your comment is as valid as the rubbish press in the UK banging on about how all Brits must be bone idle or the Polish wouldn't come in and take their jobs. Complete bull and totally patronising. Imo obviously.

Across 25 large Australian corporates in 7 different industries I have seen enough to know who is patronising.

By the way the guys that jumped out were not white

Sherlock Holmes Nov 21st 2012 11:57 am

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Originally Posted by RedDragon2008 (Post 10394265)
Across 25 large Australian corporates in 7 different industries I have seen enough to know who is patronising.

By the way the guys that jumped out were not white

Can you clarify? What guys? Jumped out of where? What is the relevance of colour?

Your statement doesn't seem related in anyway. :confused:

chris955 Nov 21st 2012 12:11 pm

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Originally Posted by RedDragon2008 (Post 10394265)

By the way the guys that jumped out were not white

:confused:

moneypenny20 Nov 21st 2012 12:19 pm

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I think it's one of those puzzle things. We're supposed to work out what size shoes they were wearing.

Pollyana Nov 21st 2012 12:24 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 10394318)
I think it's one of those puzzle things. We're supposed to work out what size shoes they were wearing.

It was Professor Plum in the parking space with a candlestick........

Sherlock Holmes Nov 21st 2012 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 10394328)
It was Professor Plum in the parking space with a candlestick........

Thank you Polly, I knew there'd be an answer. :D I shall sleep well tonight.

Mr Grumpy Nov 21st 2012 12:28 pm

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Originally Posted by RedDragon2008 (Post 10394265)
Across 25 large Australian corporates in 7 different industries I have seen enough to know who is patronising.

By the way the guys that jumped out were not white

It looks like you who are afraid of work in general.

Having so many jobs shows that you lack commitment. I have been on recruitment panels and people with your kind of 'experience' are avoided like the plague as you are fickle and apathetic.

RedDragon2008 Nov 21st 2012 12:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy (Post 10394340)
It looks like you who are afraid of work in general.

Having so many jobs shows that you lack commitment. I have been on recruitment panels and people with your kind of 'experience' are avoided like the plague as you are fickle and apathetic.

Ha ha I am not an employee:rofl:

chris955 Nov 21st 2012 1:00 pm

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Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy (Post 10394340)
It looks like you who are afraid of work in general.

Having so many jobs shows that you lack commitment. I have been on recruitment panels and people with your kind of 'experience' are avoided like the plague as you are fickle and apathetic.

Before I saw the OP had replied I was going to say it is probably best not to jump in with both feet before you have some facts in front of you ;)

Ballys Nov 21st 2012 8:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 10394328)
It was Professor Plum in the parking space with a candlestick........

Sorry polly the answer is 42.

Amazulu Nov 22nd 2012 12:30 am

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Originally Posted by RedDragon2008 (Post 10393881)
Mainly because Australians are allergic to "hard" work

The same has been said of the Poms - hence one of the reasons that South Asuans and Poles have prospered in the UK

chris955 Nov 22nd 2012 7:00 am

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Well that reply took longer than I thought :lol:

moneypenny20 Nov 24th 2012 1:12 am

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 10395358)
The same has been said of the Poms - hence one of the reasons that South Asuans and Poles have prospered in the UK


Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10395731)
Well that reply took longer than I thought :lol:

You're smarter than me, I have no idea what a South Asuans is.

commonwealth Nov 24th 2012 1:33 am

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they are not north asuans

go4it Nov 29th 2012 9:40 pm

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Another not too good article from one of the job search sites;

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/see...071337523.html

Unfortunately it doesn't say anything about percentages but ANZ bank already has pointed out in their montly survey that the vacancies are at the level of Jan 2010

go4it Dec 3rd 2012 12:59 am

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And another one on it's way;

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/job...005629308.html

to me it seems a recession is round the corner guys

renth Dec 3rd 2012 1:38 am

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Originally Posted by go4it (Post 10412877)
And another one on it's way;

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/job...005629308.html

to me it seems a recession is round the corner guys

Loads of budget cuts coming at my place of work - a university.

steve`o Dec 3rd 2012 4:21 am

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Originally Posted by renth (Post 10412916)
Loads of budget cuts coming at my place of work - a university.

heard on the news that qld are cutting 25 tafes ffs where will they teach people for the future?

chris955 Dec 3rd 2012 7:51 am

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Whether there is officially a recession or not is to some extent largely irrelevant. If people are losing their jobs, getting hours cut and potentially losing their homes the fact that there is a recession or not is unimportant. If you are working and earning good money it also doesnt make any difference, it just comes down to what the official figures show.

TheArmChairDetective Dec 3rd 2012 8:03 am

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Originally Posted by renth (Post 10412916)
Loads of budget cuts coming at my place of work - a university.

I hope these don't have a negative effect on you personally.

renth Dec 3rd 2012 8:31 pm

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Originally Posted by TheArmChairDetective (Post 10413215)
I hope these don't have a negative effect on you personally.

Thanks, they shouldn't. There are loads of casuals and fixed term peeps who will get it before ongoing staff like me. Part of me wants to get the arse though as I've been there 10 years - my payout would be pretty big.

Loads of fixed term staff are still waiting to hear if their contracts will be renewed, they all expire December 31st.

Also talking to mates who run businesses, people are taking longer and longer to pay their bills. Lots of small businesses going under here in WA.

go4it Dec 4th 2012 1:18 am

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You can see it in the expectations of the unemployment rate to rise;

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/une...005526942.html

bingobob777 Dec 5th 2012 12:02 am

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interest rates cut again

seems they haven't learned from the US, UK or Japan

Those who overborrowed bringing down another economy, while those who saved get shafted

M_U_S_T_S_A_V_E_H_O_M_E_O_W_N_E_R_S

commonwealth Dec 6th 2012 12:45 am

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unemployment went down 0.2% last month.

Fran_L Dec 6th 2012 12:44 pm

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Indeed. 13,900 more jobs were created in Australia last month and the unemployment rate dropped to 5.2%. Surely that's positive?!

boots Dec 7th 2012 9:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Fran_L (Post 10419367)
Indeed. 13,900 more jobs were created in Australia last month and the unemployment rate dropped to 5.2%. Surely that's positive?!

Looks good if you create 4 Part-Time positions to cover the 1 Full-Time employee sacked,multiply that by 1,000's!Viola !!!!!Unemployment Rates decrease!

commonwealth Dec 7th 2012 11:24 pm

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better than no jobs created at all ;)

the troubadour Dec 8th 2012 4:57 am

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Originally Posted by Fran_L (Post 10419367)
Indeed. 13,900 more jobs were created in Australia last month and the unemployment rate dropped to 5.2%. Surely that's positive?!

Why? How many loose jobs but are not counted. The real unemployment rate is never cited.

the troubadour Dec 8th 2012 4:58 am

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Originally Posted by commonwealth (Post 10422339)
better than no jobs created at all ;)

Not if fulltime jobs are going..too many folk working 28 hour weeks is barely economicly uplifting stuff..

the troubadour Dec 8th 2012 5:00 am

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Originally Posted by bingobob777 (Post 10416281)
interest rates cut again

seems they haven't learned from the US, UK or Japan

Those who overborrowed bringing down another economy, while those who saved get shafted

M_U_S_T_S_A_V_E_H_O_M_E_O_W_N_E_R_S

I agree very unfair to the cautious and rewarding those with little to lose.

Amazulu Dec 8th 2012 6:19 am

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Originally Posted by bingobob777 (Post 10416281)
interest rates cut again

seems they haven't learned from the US, UK or Japan

Those who overborrowed bringing down another economy, while those who saved get shafted

M_U_S_T_S_A_V_E_H_O_M_E_O_W_N_E_R_S

What about home owners who have also saved?

bingobob777 Dec 8th 2012 7:27 am

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 10422690)
What about home owners who have also saved?

They're the best

commonwealth Dec 8th 2012 11:43 am

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many people use mortgage redraw/offset accounts as a 'tax beneficial' way of 'earning' interest through the ofsetting mechanism.

bingobob777 Dec 10th 2012 4:39 am

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My employer (engineering consultancy) announced second lot of redundancies today and all pay rises and promotions suspended

Miners not spending
State Govts not spending
Federal Govt. not spending

Consultancies, contractors and suppliers going to have a tough couple of years

Amazulu Dec 10th 2012 7:01 am

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Originally Posted by bingobob777 (Post 10425223)
My employer (engineering consultancy) announced second lot of redundancies today and all pay rises and promotions suspended

Miners not spending
State Govts not spending
Federal Govt. not spending

Consultancies, contractors and suppliers going to have a tough couple of years

I won't comment on the other 2, but the state government? They're spending shitloads - probably too much. Look around you and see all the public works going on - Elizabeth Quay, City link, 3 new hospitals, rail extension, GE Highway and other roads, electricity grid, indoor stadium etc. Plenty of private construction going on too.

Facts are cool.

chris955 Dec 10th 2012 7:55 am

Re: Australia economy/bubble/fiscal cliff/recession 'stuff'
 

Originally Posted by bingobob777 (Post 10425223)
My employer (engineering consultancy) announced second lot of redundancies today and all pay rises and promotions suspended

Miners not spending
State Govts not spending
Federal Govt. not spending

Consultancies, contractors and suppliers going to have a tough couple of years

Thank goodness we havent got someone come on and tell us how Aussies are earning over $70,000 a year and getting 5% pay rises every year.
From what I understand Queensland certainly isnt spending, the opposite in fact and I'm not sure if NSW have any money to spend.

Budawang Dec 10th 2012 8:49 am

Re: Australia economy/bubble/fiscal cliff/recession 'stuff'
 

Originally Posted by bingobob777 (Post 10425223)
My employer (engineering consultancy) announced second lot of redundancies today and all pay rises and promotions suspended

Miners not spending
State Govts not spending
Federal Govt. not spending

Consultancies, contractors and suppliers going to have a tough couple of years

The economy has three engines of growth: households, businesses and government. The only engine that's not going sideways at the moment is the business sector. If business investment hits the skids then a recession is likely, unless one of the other two engines doesn't fire up.


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