Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
Apr 21st 2010, 5:37 am
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
Nonsense. Italy alone kicks our arses. Thats an incompetent and corrupt ridden society. Virtually every Asian and Latin American nation also. Most of Eastern Europe, and I would say all of the Middle East and other Western Europeans nations like Spain, Portugal and even Ireland.
Really the only countries that claim to have a better track record are the USA, UK, The Nordic countries and Germany and the Netherlands.
Hardly the whole world.
Really the only countries that claim to have a better track record are the USA, UK, The Nordic countries and Germany and the Netherlands.
Hardly the whole world.
Apr 21st 2010, 5:43 am
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
Nonsense. Italy alone kicks our arses. Thats an incompetent and corrupt ridden society. Virtually every Asian and Latin American nation also. Most of Eastern Europe, and I would say all of the Middle East and other Western Europeans nations like Spain, Portugal and even Ireland.
Really the only countries that claim to have a better track record are the USA, UK, The Nordic countries and Germany and the Netherlands.
Hardly the whole world.
Really the only countries that claim to have a better track record are the USA, UK, The Nordic countries and Germany and the Netherlands.
Hardly the whole world.
We have an Italian friend who is scathing of the corruption there.
South Africa (as with much of the rest of Africa) is very corrupt.
Apr 21st 2010, 6:08 am
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
Australia is first world but with minor problems like
1. Knife culture
2. Bashing of migrants and asking them to leave Aus
3. Crumbling health system
4. Increasing prices of daily usage goods and rent
5. Intolerance of some natives towards multiculturism
etc, etc
But we are hopeful that govt will resolve these problems and bring Oz to the forefront
1. Knife culture
2. Bashing of migrants and asking them to leave Aus
3. Crumbling health system
4. Increasing prices of daily usage goods and rent
5. Intolerance of some natives towards multiculturism
etc, etc
But we are hopeful that govt will resolve these problems and bring Oz to the forefront
Apr 21st 2010, 6:59 am
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
Nonsense. Italy alone kicks our arses. Thats an incompetent and corrupt ridden society. Virtually every Asian and Latin American nation also. Most of Eastern Europe, and I would say all of the Middle East and other Western Europeans nations like Spain, Portugal and even Ireland.
Really the only countries that claim to have a better track record are the USA, UK, The Nordic countries and Germany and the Netherlands.
Hardly the whole world.
Really the only countries that claim to have a better track record are the USA, UK, The Nordic countries and Germany and the Netherlands.
Hardly the whole world.
The other thing which hits you straight away, too, is the way the average Joe thinks about it - he tends to shrug his shoulders and pass on the other side of the street. ""Happens everywhere, just forget it".
In a more civilised country, there may be the problems (although nothing like the level) but people are extremely angry when it comes to the surface.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hatton
Apr 21st 2010, 7:02 am
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
I have lived in the UK for many years, the USA for twelve and Australia for only five (but with many visits over the last thirty or so years). There's no denying that just about any country has some problems with corruption, incompetence and organised crime - but the level of all these here in Australia beggars description: the corruption and incompetence extends all the way through the political classes, the executive, police, RTA, transport organisations, planning - you name it.
The other thing which hits you straight away, too, is the way the average Joe thinks about it - he tends to shrug his shoulders and pass on the other side of the street. ""Happens everywhere, just forget it".
In a more civilised country, there may be the problems (although nothing like the level) but people are extremely angry when it comes to the surface.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hatton
The other thing which hits you straight away, too, is the way the average Joe thinks about it - he tends to shrug his shoulders and pass on the other side of the street. ""Happens everywhere, just forget it".
In a more civilised country, there may be the problems (although nothing like the level) but people are extremely angry when it comes to the surface.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hatton
for instance
take the piss take petrol prices where its dearer to buy fuel on a bank holiday or the weekend
they had the pricing commision look into this and they said it was above board
your average aussie takes this as acceptable and tries to get his/her fuel on a tuesday wtf ?
Last edited by steve`o; Apr 21st 2010 at 7:05 am.
Apr 21st 2010, 7:13 am
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
tarmac on roads is a posh thing that only really happens on roads till about the sunshine coast after that if you stray off the main highway ( bruce highway ) your quite likely to find gravel or compacted earth roads
Apr 21st 2010, 7:37 am
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
but isnt that because your average aussie is just to lazy to give a toss?
for instance
take the piss take petrol prices where its dearer to buy fuel on a bank holiday or the weekend
they had the pricing commision look into this and they said it was above board
your average aussie takes this as acceptable and tries to get his/her fuel on a tuesday wtf ?
for instance
take the piss take petrol prices where its dearer to buy fuel on a bank holiday or the weekend
they had the pricing commision look into this and they said it was above board
your average aussie takes this as acceptable and tries to get his/her fuel on a tuesday wtf ?
They can't face being accused of whingeing, quite ingenious of people in power to instil that in em I reckon
Apr 21st 2010, 5:59 pm
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
Thats not to say Australia is bad. In fact, there are a lot of things going well for it and thats why I have decided to migrate there. My point is just that Australia is probably (quite) a bit backward when compared to the rest of the 1st world countries. Can a country be rich but yet belong to 2nd or 3rd world? How about Middle Eastern countries where I am based now?
Last edited by caliburn; Apr 21st 2010 at 6:03 pm.
Apr 21st 2010, 11:25 pm
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
After spending some time in the US, when I landed in Australia for the first time, it looked so backward! Local Australians seemed rustic and shallow. Much slower life and quality of shopping was lower. I have not checked everyone's pocket but it just seemed to me that a large part of population were underpaid.
Apr 21st 2010, 11:54 pm
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
I have lived in the UK for many years, the USA for twelve and Australia for only five (but with many visits over the last thirty or so years). There's no denying that just about any country has some problems with corruption, incompetence and organised crime - but the level of all these here in Australia beggars description: the corruption and incompetence extends all the way through the political classes, the executive, police, RTA, transport organisations, planning - you name it.
The other thing which hits you straight away, too, is the way the average Joe thinks about it - he tends to shrug his shoulders and pass on the other side of the street. ""Happens everywhere, just forget it".
In a more civilised country, there may be the problems (although nothing like the level) but people are extremely angry when it comes to the surface.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hatton
The other thing which hits you straight away, too, is the way the average Joe thinks about it - he tends to shrug his shoulders and pass on the other side of the street. ""Happens everywhere, just forget it".
In a more civilised country, there may be the problems (although nothing like the level) but people are extremely angry when it comes to the surface.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hatton
Last edited by Shellfish; Apr 22nd 2010 at 1:47 am.
Apr 22nd 2010, 12:13 am
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
Australia is first world but with minor problems like
1. Knife culture
2. Bashing of migrants and asking them to leave Aus
3. Crumbling health system
4. Increasing prices of daily usage goods and rent
5. Intolerance of some natives towards multiculturism
etc, etc
But we are hopeful that govt will resolve these problems and bring Oz to the forefront
1. Knife culture
2. Bashing of migrants and asking them to leave Aus
3. Crumbling health system
4. Increasing prices of daily usage goods and rent
5. Intolerance of some natives towards multiculturism
etc, etc
But we are hopeful that govt will resolve these problems and bring Oz to the forefront
My subjective experience from 8 years living here (having moved from Ireland in 2002) is of a good health system, no experience of crime, a truly multicultural society with a high degree of tolerance and diversity and price increases as you would expect from year to year.
It varies from person to person and based on your circumstances, attitude, outlook and expectations I would say.
Last edited by DownUnderPaddy; Apr 22nd 2010 at 12:25 am.
Apr 22nd 2010, 1:37 am
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Re: Is Australia a 1st world or 2nd world country?
In a recent citizenship ceremony I was treated to a speech by the Mayor of Brisbane who expounded the many virtues of Brisbane as being the premier city in Australia and cited our public transport system! That is a man who clearly needs to travel - if he could actually find a train or bus to take him there.
