Aussies hostile to immigrants?
Jun 24th 2002, 12:20 am
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Re: Aussies hostile to immigrants?
Stefan == James Bond?
amusement for the public these people.
wes
"Stefan Birbacher" < [email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]
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> summers family <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On a recent thread there were a lot of comments stating that Australians were
> >hostile to , and didn't like immigrants. How big a problem is this? We don't want
> >to move to the other side of the world and be victimised. We are not expecting
> >immigration to be a bed of roses, but hopefully we would be given a fair chance in
> >Australia.
> We don't want you whinging pommies here. Go back to your country.
amusement for the public these people.wes
"Stefan Birbacher" < [email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]
om...
> summers family <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On a recent thread there were a lot of comments stating that Australians were
> >hostile to , and didn't like immigrants. How big a problem is this? We don't want
> >to move to the other side of the world and be victimised. We are not expecting
> >immigration to be a bed of roses, but hopefully we would be given a fair chance in
> >Australia.
> We don't want you whinging pommies here. Go back to your country.
Jun 24th 2002, 4:20 am
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Re: Aussies hostile to immigrants?
me too Sophia, i too am a real Aussie karenxx "sophia" <[email protected]>
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> Stefan Birbache???? that's a fantastically Australian name isn't it now???? love
> sophia (a REAL Aussie) xx
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> kitkatz
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> Stefan Birbache???? that's a fantastically Australian name isn't it now???? love
> sophia (a REAL Aussie) xx
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Jun 24th 2002, 5:20 am
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Re: Aussies hostile to immigrants?
summers family <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On a recent thread there were a lot of comments stating that Australians were
> hostile to , and didn't like immigrants. How big a problem is this? We don't want
> to move to the other side of the world and be victimised. We are not expecting
> immigration to be a bed of roses, but hopefully we would be given a fair chance in
> Australia.
>
> As always your comment are appreciated. Thanks Carol.
Hi Carol,
As a contributor to one of those threads I feel am partly responsible for your
concern that 'Australian's don't like immigrants'. Hostility to much too strong a
word for any negative treatment that you MAY receive.
Socially
======
There is *very* little hostility on a social scale. Any prejudice will usually be as
a result of differences between your British way of speaking/doing things and the
Aussie way (I've lived in England for 21 years and Oz 3.5 years now).
Aussies initially appear very extroverted - loud and brash - but are actually quite
shy and reserved and it will usually take a long time to get to know somone very
well. Aussies like to be in 'teams' - remember to invite heaps of people around for
any social gathering. One-to-one social events make them *very* uncomfortable. On the
other hand to an aussie brits usually appear to be more introverted - quiet and
reserved - but in fact are easier to get know personally (no pun intended!). By the
way most brits speak they can sound more aloof and stand-offish. When you live in the
UK you know that this usually not unfriendliness, just normal. Also brits can have a
more aggressive or pendantic way of speaking - aussies are more relaxed but also can
seem much more abrupt when they want to end a converstion. The longer you stay in Oz,
you'll adapt the way you deal with Aussies and pretty soon you'll find you'll get
along with every-one.
My advice is slow down and learn the Aussie way of conversing: (a) strike a
conversation, (b) make a joke about anything, (c) say something positive (if you must
say something negative, balance it with a couple of positive statements), (d) make a
final joke and then
(e) cut the conversation dead. No commitments, no need to talk further and no
worries. You don't have to speak to that person ever again - they don't take it
personally.
P.S. There is more hostility between say Scots or Irish and English in the UK than
there is hostility displayed to immigrants here in Oz.
Work
====
There is some bias against Brits when job hunting, but it should not stop you from
getting a job. In the boom times this didn't matter, in the current recession it just
means you have to go that 'extra mile' to get the job. Once at work you'll be treated
as one of the crowd.
So as long as you come prepared to get a 'little stick' for your accent/pronunciation
and and mix in with aussie way of life, you'll have a great time. Living in Australia
still beats living in the UK by a long way.
Positives: Weather, beaches, cheerfulness, space, relaxed attitude to life, cost of
living, family amenities, paygroups/kindies/schools, health service, public services,
and just about everything else not listed below.
Negatives: Wages, being so far from relatives (though for some people this may ba an
advantage!) and old friends.
"Nothing ventured - nothing gained!"
AndyH.
news:<[email protected]>...
> On a recent thread there were a lot of comments stating that Australians were
> hostile to , and didn't like immigrants. How big a problem is this? We don't want
> to move to the other side of the world and be victimised. We are not expecting
> immigration to be a bed of roses, but hopefully we would be given a fair chance in
> Australia.
>
> As always your comment are appreciated. Thanks Carol.
Hi Carol,
As a contributor to one of those threads I feel am partly responsible for your
concern that 'Australian's don't like immigrants'. Hostility to much too strong a
word for any negative treatment that you MAY receive.
Socially
======
There is *very* little hostility on a social scale. Any prejudice will usually be as
a result of differences between your British way of speaking/doing things and the
Aussie way (I've lived in England for 21 years and Oz 3.5 years now).
Aussies initially appear very extroverted - loud and brash - but are actually quite
shy and reserved and it will usually take a long time to get to know somone very
well. Aussies like to be in 'teams' - remember to invite heaps of people around for
any social gathering. One-to-one social events make them *very* uncomfortable. On the
other hand to an aussie brits usually appear to be more introverted - quiet and
reserved - but in fact are easier to get know personally (no pun intended!). By the
way most brits speak they can sound more aloof and stand-offish. When you live in the
UK you know that this usually not unfriendliness, just normal. Also brits can have a
more aggressive or pendantic way of speaking - aussies are more relaxed but also can
seem much more abrupt when they want to end a converstion. The longer you stay in Oz,
you'll adapt the way you deal with Aussies and pretty soon you'll find you'll get
along with every-one.
My advice is slow down and learn the Aussie way of conversing: (a) strike a
conversation, (b) make a joke about anything, (c) say something positive (if you must
say something negative, balance it with a couple of positive statements), (d) make a
final joke and then
(e) cut the conversation dead. No commitments, no need to talk further and no
worries. You don't have to speak to that person ever again - they don't take it
personally.
P.S. There is more hostility between say Scots or Irish and English in the UK than
there is hostility displayed to immigrants here in Oz.
Work
====
There is some bias against Brits when job hunting, but it should not stop you from
getting a job. In the boom times this didn't matter, in the current recession it just
means you have to go that 'extra mile' to get the job. Once at work you'll be treated
as one of the crowd.
So as long as you come prepared to get a 'little stick' for your accent/pronunciation
and and mix in with aussie way of life, you'll have a great time. Living in Australia
still beats living in the UK by a long way.
Positives: Weather, beaches, cheerfulness, space, relaxed attitude to life, cost of
living, family amenities, paygroups/kindies/schools, health service, public services,
and just about everything else not listed below.
Negatives: Wages, being so far from relatives (though for some people this may ba an
advantage!) and old friends.
"Nothing ventured - nothing gained!"
AndyH.
