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Amazulu Jul 30th 2008 2:22 am

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Originally Posted by markallwood (Post 6627886)
what a rubbish article...

"The retreat comes days after the Melbourne lender shocked the markets by announcing a 90pc write-down on its £550m holdings of US mortgage debt, an admission that it AAA-rated securities are virtually worthless."

Yet, it fails to mention that NAB's total assets are over $500bn !!! :D

This is the equivalent of you or I losing a couple of grand in the casino....and it is being held up as evidence in an article entitled "australia faces worse crisis than usa" !!! heh heh....

I like The Telegraph, but this is a rubbish article.

Like I said earlier - a slow news day.

Hotton Jul 30th 2008 2:31 am

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I think it will return to its average 2.42 ,the chances of the Australian
dollar becoming the new big thing in currencies is a joke:)
its just a matter of time Just look at the Kiwi its a joke :)
Australia has a massive empty Continent to fill before it is in the
same camp as the majors ,as thay drop interest rates the RBA & RBNZ
the A$dollars will a come tumbling doon:thumbdown::thumbdown:

lastere Jul 30th 2008 3:49 am

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Originally Posted by Budawang (Post 6627276)
The CEO of National Australia Bank said something interesting the other day about Australian property prices along the lines that, yes, property is very expensive in Australia but, unlike the US, there isn't an over supply of housing. To put it simply, too many houses were built in the US. This, combined with crazy lending to people who were guaranteed to default means the US is in a much more difficult situation. Strong immigration and the mining boom means many of the overseas pundits have got it wrong when they predict Australia will follow the US down the negative equity gurgler.

The fact is the Australian economy has been (and is) much better managed than the US one. Aus has a budget surplus around 2% of GDP while the US has a 3 % deficit which is more like 4% except they don't count their "war deficit". Talk about shonky book-keeping.

http://www.portfolio.com/news-market...nk-CEOs?page=4

"The mortgage market is going to be a great market in this country for a long time. We've got population growth. We've got people who are always going to want to live in homes that they own. It's going to be a great market."

alipally Jul 30th 2008 4:38 am

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The mortgage market is going to be great, only if they've got money to lend to would-be mortagee's....

The financial market is a global one and, as such is subject to changes in the global economy.

Even Europe have a load less money to lend than they used to and the banks there dabbled a whole lot less than UK ones in the USA sub prime lending....
Australia can't immune from that, surely?

BTW today the $ is at 2.1 to £ so it's definitely on the up... whether is carries on is yet to be seen, but that's what the economists are predicting.

DrWho Jul 30th 2008 8:09 am

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Originally Posted by Tableland (Post 6627037)
...I think the over-valued Aussie property market is about to get what's coming to it.

Totally agree... Last weeks Manly Daily showed a 6.75% year on year drop in prices in Mona Vale on the Northern Beaches, data from RP Data... And I reckon that's just the beginning... 20%-30% to go...

isgraham Jul 30th 2008 11:41 am

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Originally Posted by DrWho (Post 6629372)
Totally agree... Last weeks Manly Daily showed a 6.75% year on year drop in prices in Mona Vale on the Northern Beaches, data from RP Data... And I reckon that's just the beginning... 20%-30% to go...

Australia is currently where the UK was 18 months ago. The denial stage property prices are going down accross the board slowly at the moment but I expect that to pick up speed over the next year or so.

Regarding the slowdown in demand from China after the olympics, I wouldn't bet on that. China has big infrastructural plans and they are swimming in money so the resources boom could go on for some time yet.

smurtaza Jul 30th 2008 12:04 pm

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Originally Posted by dugongs (Post 6604874)
Patience will be rewarded - taken from Bloomberg this morning. Just wait until post the Bejing olympics slowdown kicks in. Aussie is a little boat in a large ocean and can move quickly when the fundamentals turn.

Commodities Decline

The Australian dollar fell to the lowest in two weeks as Credit Suisse indexes showed traders added to bets for the RBA to reduce its benchmark by 25 basis points in the next 12 months, compared with 11 basis points yesterday.

The currency also weakened as the price of gold, the nation's third-most valuable commodity export, dropped the most in more than six weeks yesterday. Exports of raw materials contribute about 17 percent to Australia's economy.

``For commodity currencies, it appears the writing is on the wall for a sharp pull back,'' wrote London-based Stephen Koukoulas, head of global foreign exchange and fixed-income strategy at TD Securities Ltd., in a research note. ``A weaker commodities outlook will undermine support'' for the Aussie.

New Zealand's government bonds rose, pushing the yield on the 10-year note down 5 basis points to 6.13 percent. The price of the 6 percent security maturing in December 2017 climbed 0.368 to 99.054. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point.

Australian bonds advanced for a second day. The yield on the 10-year note fell 5 basis points to 6.40 percent. The price of the 5.25 percent security maturing in March 2019 gained 0.336, or A$3.36 per A$1,000 face amount, to 91.243.

Why dont they peg AUD$ with CAD$,Euro or GBP instead of USD$?

Amazulu Jul 30th 2008 2:38 pm

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Originally Posted by isgraham (Post 6630079)
Regarding the slowdown in demand from China after the olympics, I wouldn't bet on that. China has big infrastructural plans and they are swimming in money so the resources boom could go on for some time yet.

Worley Parsons, who I work for, have just got a new, $4b, iron-ore project in the Pilbara which is starting at the end fo the year.
WA government has just approved a new, $1.6b iron-ore port near Geraldton.
Yadda, yadda.

Boom still a long way to go.

Nice Guy Jul 30th 2008 2:52 pm

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Why is it that almost everything one buys in the shops has......somewhere............on it 'Made in China' ?

Wol Jul 30th 2008 3:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Nice Guy (Post 6630419)
Why is it that almost everything one buys in the shops has......somewhere............on it 'Made in China' ?

..... and is generally crap.

I for one am sick to death of *having* to buy cheap Chinese made goods (because nothing else seems to be made any more) which fall apart in some way, have instructions that don't relate to the product, don't do what they purport to do - and end up in the bin.

I don't think I'm the only one, either.

Nice Guy Jul 30th 2008 3:43 pm

Aussie dollar on the turn
 

Originally Posted by Wol (Post 6630450)
..... and is generally crap.

I for one am sick to death of *having* to buy cheap Chinese made goods (because nothing else seems to be made any more) which fall apart in some way, have instructions that don't relate to the product, don't do what they purport to do - and end up in the bin.

I don't think I'm the only one, either.

Agreed, the thing that really cheeses me off is the fact that the clothes are made for Chinese consumption for Chinese people with (not surprisingly) Chinese bodies.

They just don't fit a hunk of a chappie like me.

Swerv-o Jul 30th 2008 3:53 pm

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Originally Posted by isgraham (Post 6630079)
Australia is currently where the UK was 18 months ago. The denial stage property prices are going down accross the board slowly at the moment but I expect that to pick up speed over the next year or so.


This is the first negative story about the Sydney housing market I've seen in the Herald.


Sydney house prices take a dive


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king kong Jul 30th 2008 4:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 6630400)
Worley Parsons, who I work for, have just got a new, $4b, iron-ore project in the Pilbara which is starting at the end fo the year.
WA government has just approved a new, $1.6b iron-ore port near Geraldton.
Yadda, yadda.

Boom still a long way to go.

Hi Amazulu ,i have found this thread interesting .You tend to keep a more optimistic view of the australian economy which is good as i think now we are talking ourselves into a hole .
But i like you try to keep an optimistic outlook on the aussie economy ,but i have to i work in construction and we at the moment are really suffering ,i guess my income has dropped by 40% this year and with every single builder we work for got property unsold its only a matter of time before we are in the shite .
I know aussie has a thriving mining economy but obviously this really only effects the lucky few who are in it ,the cashed up employees of the mining sector arnt going to be the saving grace if the economy collapses due to tightening of money policies like what has happened in the uk .
The uk is now reliant on virtual cash buyers for property because people cant get mortgages ,if this happens in aussie the cashed up employees of the mining industry just wont be enough to kick start the whole merry go round again .
The mining industry at times really annoys me because all you seem to read is they cant get staff ,well i know heaps of people who wouldnt mind getting into mining including myself ,but cant get in because its a case of who you know and not what you know .
The lack of interest by mining companys in regards to training is beyond belief to me ,all they want is experience they dont want people who are eager to learn .
Australia is already a two tier economy annd thats not good for the country ,lets hope it changes soon .

bcworld Jul 30th 2008 4:23 pm

Re: Aussie dollar on the turn
 

Originally Posted by king kong (Post 6630546)
I know aussie has a thriving mining economy but obviously this really only effects the lucky few who are in it ,the cashed up employees of the mining sector arnt going to be the saving grace if the economy collapses due to tightening of money policies like what has happened in the uk .

Exactly.

The mining boom is a great thing, and Australia is very lucky to be in the position it is. But the fact that the services sector is shrinking in both Qld and WA demonstrates that the revenues alone aren't enough to keep the wider economy going.

Amazulu Jul 30th 2008 4:34 pm

Re: Aussie dollar on the turn
 

Originally Posted by king kong (Post 6630546)
Hi Amazulu ,i have found this thread interesting .You tend to keep a more optimistic view of the australian economy which is good as i think now we are talking ourselves into a hole .
But i like you try to keep an optimistic outlook on the aussie economy ,but i have to i work in construction and we at the moment are really suffering ,i guess my income has dropped by 40% this year and with every single builder we work for got property unsold its only a matter of time before we are in the shite .
I know aussie has a thriving mining economy but obviously this really only effects the lucky few who are in it ,the cashed up employees of the mining sector arnt going to be the saving grace if the economy collapses due to tightening of money policies like what has happened in the uk .
The uk is now reliant on virtual cash buyers for property because people cant get mortgages ,if this happens in aussie the cashed up employees of the mining industry just wont be enough to kick start the whole merry go round again .
The mining industry at times really annoys me because all you seem to read is they cant get staff ,well i know heaps of people who wouldnt mind getting into mining including myself ,but cant get in because its a case of who you know and not what you know .
The lack of interest by mining companys in regards to training is beyond belief to me ,all they want is experience they dont want people who are eager to learn .
Australia is already a two tier economy annd thats not good for the country ,lets hope it changes soon .

I am optimistic about the Australian economy - I work directly in mining and I can see, more than most other people, where Australia's wealth is coming from - and will come from in the future. I'm a pretty optimistic person generally, definitely a glass half full person. :)

I guess the house building industry is suffering - and that's a bummer if you're affected. The commercial building industry - in WA and Qld at least - is still booming though. There are at least 20 apartment blocks being built in central Perth right now, and heaps more are planned. Same for office blocks - the biggest one ever to be built in WA is starting soon. Add to this the new stadia, waterfront, airport, museum, roads, container port, rail etc.....
House building may be in a slump but it will come back sooner or later. No consolation if you are hurting right now, but great for the future.


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