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The O'Neills Nov 15th 2006 10:45 am

Asbergers + Emmigration
 
Got a bit of dilemma and don't know if anyone can help me but ....

My daughter is suspected of having Asbergers, and is due to have a full assessment in January to identify her specific problems, this will lead to a formal diagnosis + the help that we all need. Anyone who has been through this process will know that it can take years to get to this point, and a lot of meetings!!!!

Anyhoo, we are due to move to Oz soon on a 457 visa. I suspect that if she is formally diagnosed, she will have the visa refused, but if she isn't diagnosed now, she won't be entitled to any help in OZ until we apply for PR, and then we will probably have to start the whole process again, correct?

anyone know anything about all of this?

cheers,

Nic

Jaycee1 Nov 15th 2006 5:17 pm

Re: Asbergers + Emmigration
 

Originally Posted by The O'Neills
Got a bit of dilemma and don't know if anyone can help me but ....

My daughter is suspected of having Asbergers, and is due to have a full assessment in January to identify her specific problems, this will lead to a formal diagnosis + the help that we all need. Anyone who has been through this process will know that it can take years to get to this point, and a lot of meetings!!!!

Anyhoo, we are due to move to Oz soon on a 457 visa. I suspect that if she is formally diagnosed, she will have the visa refused, but if she isn't diagnosed now, she won't be entitled to any help in OZ until we apply for PR, and then we will probably have to start the whole process again, correct?

anyone know anything about all of this?

cheers,

Nic

Sorry I can't answer your question but good luck with what ever you decide
J x

jayjd12 Nov 15th 2006 6:25 pm

Re: Asbergers + Emmigration
 

Originally Posted by The O'Neills
Got a bit of dilemma and don't know if anyone can help me but ....

My daughter is suspected of having Asbergers, and is due to have a full assessment in January to identify her specific problems, this will lead to a formal diagnosis + the help that we all need. Anyone who has been through this process will know that it can take years to get to this point, and a lot of meetings!!!!

Anyhoo, we are due to move to Oz soon on a 457 visa. I suspect that if she is formally diagnosed, she will have the visa refused, but if she isn't diagnosed now, she won't be entitled to any help in OZ until we apply for PR, and then we will probably have to start the whole process again, correct?

anyone know anything about all of this?



cheers,

Nic

Hi Nic is it Asbergers or Aspergers? I belief they are slightly different? If its Asbergers, how old is she?

I do understand this problem but not from an emigration and visa point of view, if you would like any help or if I can offer any assistance (non Immigration) then please PM me, its possibly easier than discussing on the forum.

Regards


Jay

comet555 Nov 15th 2006 7:43 pm

Re: Asbergers + Emmigration
 
First off I know nothing about the situation regarding a visa standpoint.

But my thought would be since she most likely does not have full blown autism then it may not be as big a deal as you think (hopefully). As far as my understanding goes Asbergers is relatively mild and that your daugther would still be able to lead a productive life. They're mostly concerned about how much money she would cost the public health system.

I'm sure some sort of treatment would help although I doubt the expense would be anything close to having say a heart transplant.

I think it would definately be best to find an immigration agent who specializes in medical cases so that you can get a more definitive answer.

Also you can assume if you did apply for a PR then you would likely be asked for the specialist reports.

I definately wouldn't panic yet though.

Stitch Nov 16th 2006 8:53 am

Re: Asbergers + Emmigration
 

Originally Posted by The O'Neills
Got a bit of dilemma and don't know if anyone can help me but ....

My daughter is suspected of having Asbergers, and is due to have a full assessment in January to identify her specific problems, this will lead to a formal diagnosis + the help that we all need. Anyone who has been through this process will know that it can take years to get to this point, and a lot of meetings!!!!

Anyhoo, we are due to move to Oz soon on a 457 visa. I suspect that if she is formally diagnosed, she will have the visa refused, but if she isn't diagnosed now, she won't be entitled to any help in OZ until we apply for PR, and then we will probably have to start the whole process again, correct?

anyone know anything about all of this?

cheers,

Nic

You could try and post on the immigration forum but would suggest that you seek advice from a good agent. Aspergers is on the Autistic Spectrum. It is a lifelong developmental condition that affects children in many different ways. It is not a mild form of autism but the significant difference is that children with Aspergers tend not to have the same verbal communication difficulties as do children with Autism.

If she comes to Oz and has no diagnosis then she will have to be assessed and diagnosed by either a paediatrician, neurologist (I think) or pyschiatrist. Until this happens she will not be entitled to help as such but you may find that different educational establishments are able to support. It will mean that they do not recieve appropriate funding.

If she is diagnosed then in the UK then you will need to bring all the necessary paperwork so that this can be verified and assisstance given.

I am not sure how the visa system works along side ASD as we had our visa's before my daughter was diagnosed. I know that certain conditions are ok if the overall medical cost don't excede a certain amount, ie diabetes.

Hope this helps but feel free to PM me if there's anything else.

Cheers

Ginny

flipflop Nov 16th 2006 9:04 am

Re: Asbergers + Emmigration
 
good luck to you, i have a son with aspergers and i can tell you it has certainly made me think twice about emmigration, mainly because here in the uk he is recieving the help he needs, although not without a hell of a fight, which im sure is going to be lifelong in one way or another. i dont know anything about australia and what support they provide but its worth investigating this before you take the process any further.

flip Nov 16th 2006 10:25 am

Re: Asbergers + Emmigration
 
'From memory of reading stuff during our application, there are very few illnesses that would bar you from coming to Australia (mainly TB) but there are others which would affect your health insurance and as 457 holders you're not immediately able to take up health insurance unless your employer can organise it.

When we were talking to the medical examiner just before being granted our permanent visa he said that although certain medical conditions would give a negative response, on appeal the immigration minister held more sway than the health minister so that appeals nearly always win.

Hope this helps your confidence but unfortunately it's all hearsay. I'm sure the immi.gov.au site lists reasons for denial on medical grounds. Anyway good luck at working through this minefield.

sharon45 Nov 17th 2006 4:53 pm

Re: Asbergers + Emmigration
 

Originally Posted by The O'Neills
Got a bit of dilemma and don't know if anyone can help me but ....

My daughter is suspected of having Asbergers, and is due to have a full assessment in January to identify her specific problems, this will lead to a formal diagnosis + the help that we all need. Anyone who has been through this process will know that it can take years to get to this point, and a lot of meetings!!!!

Anyhoo, we are due to move to Oz soon on a 457 visa. I suspect that if she is formally diagnosed, she will have the visa refused, but if she isn't diagnosed now, she won't be entitled to any help in OZ until we apply for PR, and then we will probably have to start the whole process again, correct?

anyone know anything about all of this?

cheers,

Nic

Hi Nic, i'm not sure about your question but my son has a.d.d and dyspraxia .He is 16 next month and we are just waiting to hear re P.R visa .We had to send an extra report from child health and hopefully it was ok as we were told that if he could not be independent as an adult we would be refused visa. luckily the report states that he has got the prognosis to be independent.but we are still a bit worried that it will be refused. should hear in the next few weeks. good luck with yours. We in forfar were about in Aberdeen are you?

Sharon :)

wheatsheaf42 Nov 17th 2006 5:59 pm

Re: Asbergers + Emmigration
 

Originally Posted by sharon45
Hi Nic, i'm not sure about your question but my son has a.d.d and dyspraxia .He is 16 next month and we are just waiting to hear re P.R visa .We had to send an extra report from child health and hopefully it was ok as we were told that if he could not be independent as an adult we would be refused visa. luckily the report states that he has got the prognosis to be independent.but we are still a bit worried that it will be refused. should hear in the next few weeks. good luck with yours. We in forfar were about in Aberdeen are you?

Sharon :)

I would not have thought Aspergers will be that limiting from an emigration point of view. It is very unusual for a girl to have the affliction in fact, so it might not be that. From my knowledge what the medics need to do is teach the family and person affected how to cope with the situation. My own son is 27 and has it. The concerns surround their inability to understand the consequences of their actions- with a girl in particular this is an issue since they are vulnerable- and also their limited ability to have a social life.
Out of interest all my son's friends are of ethnic origin with English as a second language, since they don't use the nuances in language that you and I might use- they see things in black and white. There is no grey!

crocodileseamus Jun 2nd 2007 9:32 pm

Re: Aspergers + Emmigration
 

Originally Posted by The O'Neills (Post 4111808)
Got a bit of dilemma and don't know if anyone can help me but ....

My daughter is suspected of having Asbergers, and is due to have a full assessment in January to identify her specific problems, this will lead to a formal diagnosis + the help that we all need. Anyone who has been through this process will know that it can take years to get to this point, and a lot of meetings!!!!

Anyhoo, we are due to move to Oz soon on a 457 visa. I suspect that if she is formally diagnosed, she will have the visa refused, but if she isn't diagnosed now, she won't be entitled to any help in OZ until we apply for PR, and then we will probably have to start the whole process again, correct?

anyone know anything about all of this?

cheers,

Nic

Hi Nic,

Have only realised this site existed within these past few minutes, clicked into Asperger's Syndrome and hey presto.

Nic, we have a 7 year old daughter with Asperger's syndrome,we live in Northern Ireland and she is in a Learning Support Centre, attached to a local primary school. She at the moment, has the reading age of 12 and her maths, comprehension etc is well beyond her years, however, her social skills are appalling, to the point of not hand washing after toileting etc, she is repetitive in her speech and has frequent temper tantrums.

To get our daughter the help she requires, we have to exaggerate to the Educational Authority in our area, however, Lucy's educational needs are zero (according to her special needs teacher) however, her social skills are appalling.

We have been informed of a Dr Martha Baz, who works out of Sydney, that she can give us an answer with regard to migration to Oz, if we submit Lucy's educational and medical notes, which we are in the process of doing.

I hope to inform you of any changes to our situation, but at the moment, our only stumbling block, will be our daugher's autism, which is nowhere written in her medical or educational notes, however, I would never immigrate at the detriment of my daughter's education. Lucy is thriving at the moment, as I have 3 younger children, twins at 5 and a 6 month old baby, I have to know that Lucy will get the help she requires, even is we have to pay for it,

LOL Regards,



Crocodile Seamus:):):)

asher Jun 3rd 2007 2:32 am

Re: Asbergers + Emmigration
 
just a quick one

Aspergers can vary with the individual very much

I have a son with Aspergers he is 20 years old.

he is in supported housing on benefits and rarely leaves his room, he has a care package from the autistic trust.

he had no speech as a child, it has always been said he will not be an independant adult. we have fought and pushed and encouraged.

we are leaving him behind as he would not cope with the change.

good luck with your emigration:thumbsup:


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