"Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange rat
Apr 1st 2011, 4:57 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
Exactly. If it ain't made in your country it does f**k all for your economy - no matter who owns the company
Apr 1st 2011, 4:59 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
Brits are conditioned by the media to think that way just like aussies think that Aus is the best country in the world.
Just to add to your list - I phone, I pad and any other smart phone for that matter. Not made in the UK by any means but the low consumption cpu's that make them do their stuff run on licensed designs from ARM and Imagination technologies, both based in Cambridge.
You hear news like Ford stopping car production in the UK but nobody hears of the millions they invested into engine production and design at Bridgend, Wales and Dagenham diesel. These engines are exported all over the world. You don't hear that all Toyota Avensys and Auris sold in Europe are made in Derby or Civics made in Swindon and now for the latest model Astra's will be exported from Ellsmere port for the EU market. I nearly forgot Mini's from Oxford.
Just to add to your list - I phone, I pad and any other smart phone for that matter. Not made in the UK by any means but the low consumption cpu's that make them do their stuff run on licensed designs from ARM and Imagination technologies, both based in Cambridge.
You hear news like Ford stopping car production in the UK but nobody hears of the millions they invested into engine production and design at Bridgend, Wales and Dagenham diesel. These engines are exported all over the world. You don't hear that all Toyota Avensys and Auris sold in Europe are made in Derby or Civics made in Swindon and now for the latest model Astra's will be exported from Ellsmere port for the EU market. I nearly forgot Mini's from Oxford.
It would make frightening reading
Apr 1st 2011, 5:06 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
Apr 1st 2011, 5:08 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
Look at the cars British Leyland were making - they destroyed themselves!
Apr 1st 2011, 5:15 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
If anyone says, the consequence of her actions had nothing to do with the GFC and its impact on the UK was unstoppable. take a look at GERMANY !
When the money went out of England to Poland for the replacement Coal it was gone forever... The extra cost of the UK Coal mostly stayed in the financial circuit in the UK as it was spent there.
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Apr 1st 2011, 5:26 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
Germany might be having a growth spurt...but in the worst GFC year its economy shrank virtually the same amount as the UK. It does seem to have been able to dramatically turn around it's unemployment situation though.
Average growth in the 2003-2011 period.
UK: 2.1% per year
GER: 0.9% per year (same number for France, they manufacture lots too, right?)
http://www.indexmundi.com/germany/gd...owth_rate.html
Average growth in the 2003-2011 period.
UK: 2.1% per year
GER: 0.9% per year (same number for France, they manufacture lots too, right?)
http://www.indexmundi.com/germany/gd...owth_rate.html
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Apr 1st 2011, 5:28 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
What she did to the Miners should almost be seen as an act of treason. Lets get the facts straight... It was pure revenge over the Miners strike and the consequent 3 day week circa 73, which caused the Heath Government to fall. She felt the miners had to much power and acted accordingly. Nothing to do with the financial future of Britain at all, pure ice cold revenge and payback. Which started a ball rolling against anything to do with a strong union base. The only bona fide attack on the Unions was Fleet Street.... you cant stop automation.
If anyone says, the consequence of her actions had nothing to do with the GFC and its impact on the UK was unstoppable. take a look at GERMANY !
When the money went out of England to Poland for the replacement Coal it was gone forever... The extra cost of the UK Coal mostly stayed in the financial circuit in the UK as it was spent there.
If anyone says, the consequence of her actions had nothing to do with the GFC and its impact on the UK was unstoppable. take a look at GERMANY !
When the money went out of England to Poland for the replacement Coal it was gone forever... The extra cost of the UK Coal mostly stayed in the financial circuit in the UK as it was spent there.
Apr 1st 2011, 5:36 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
What she did to the Miners should almost be seen as an act of treason. Lets get the facts straight... It was pure revenge over the Miners strike and the consequent 3 day week circa 73, which caused the Heath Government to fall. She felt the miners had to much power and acted accordingly. Nothing to do with the financial future of Britain at all, pure ice cold revenge and payback. Which started a ball rolling against anything to do with a strong union base. The only bona fide attack on the Unions was Fleet Street.... you cant stop automation.
If anyone says, the consequence of her actions had nothing to do with the GFC and its impact on the UK was unstoppable. take a look at GERMANY !
When the money went out of England to Poland for the replacement Coal it was gone forever... The extra cost of the UK Coal mostly stayed in the financial circuit in the UK as it was spent there.
If anyone says, the consequence of her actions had nothing to do with the GFC and its impact on the UK was unstoppable. take a look at GERMANY !
When the money went out of England to Poland for the replacement Coal it was gone forever... The extra cost of the UK Coal mostly stayed in the financial circuit in the UK as it was spent there.
Those poor miners were led down the garden path
Apr 1st 2011, 5:37 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
You're wrong, those two example IP companies I mentioned receive royalties and licence payments, they pay staff in the UK to design products and pay UK taxes.
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Apr 1st 2011, 5:56 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
Sure, there's some benefit, but China/Taiwan (wherever they are made) gain the most. I reckon the UK needs to go back to a majority manufacturing based economy in order to sort itself out - relying on banking/finance has not worked.
Apr 1st 2011, 5:59 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
But how does it compete with Asians earning a few dollars a day?
Apr 1st 2011, 6:02 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
Go high-tech. Make the things they themselves can't make.
It works for Germany and Japan.
The UK education system is not up to it yet (not enough engineering/science, too much arts) but they could make it so.
It works for Germany and Japan.
The UK education system is not up to it yet (not enough engineering/science, too much arts) but they could make it so.
Apr 1st 2011, 6:15 am
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Re: "Anyone not going to Aus because of the high cost of living and the cr@p exchange
Drive through Germany (I did last year), the Ruhr cities, see how many factories there are - the same with Japan. Then take a drive through the Midlands of England - it's ex-industrial heartland..........
