Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Australia
Reload this Page >

Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Thread Tools
 
Old Jan 4th 2006, 9:32 am
  #1  
Kramer
Thread Starter
 
CKramer's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 34
CKramer is an unknown quantity at this point
Unhappy Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Hello,

We have two show cats and plan to immigrate.

We are terrified of requirement that animal must be transported in cargo container. We heard a lot of stories of animals freeze to death, suffoceate , gone crazy or permanently scared after cargo flight.
Especially that flight from Europe to Australia is longest ever possible, more than 12 hours.
Our cats are show cats and very delicate. You just can't put them in cargo.

On the contrary there are rumours that it's possible to bring cat with you as hand lugagge into passenger compartment. Anyone can confirm that? what is the procedure? You have to beg airline to allow you ? Buy extra seat? Bribe flight attendant? All of the above?

And there is not-very-clear AQIS requirement that animal must be flown only from one of approved airports (Singapore, Copenhagen, ...), where it would be sealed in the container by veterinary service and put into cardgo. Is that true? Does that mean that you're not able to take it with you into passenger seat after all?

Anyone have experience dealing with AQIS?
Among other requirements (vaccinations) AQIS require proof that animal was living last 6 months in "approved country". What can be such "evidence", our apartment rent bills? Or should I bring animal to Australian embassy so they would acknowledge that it's living here?

AQIS is quite unhelpful. They only reply "read out instructions on site". No special cases or exceptions.

Thank you.
CKramer is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 10:36 am
  #2  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Location: Gloucester
Posts: 346
boom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this pointboom_meringue is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Originally Posted by CKramer
Hello,

We have two show cats and plan to immigrate.

We are terrified of requirement that animal must be transported in cargo container. We heard a lot of stories of animals freeze to death, suffoceate , gone crazy or permanently scared after cargo flight.
Especially that flight from Europe to Australia is longest ever possible, more than 12 hours.
Our cats are show cats and very delicate. You just can't put them in cargo.

On the contrary there are rumours that it's possible to bring cat with you as hand lugagge into passenger compartment. Anyone can confirm that? what is the procedure? You have to beg airline to allow you ? Buy extra seat? Bribe flight attendant? All of the above?

And there is not-very-clear AQIS requirement that animal must be flown only from one of approved airports (Singapore, Copenhagen, ...), where it would be sealed in the container by veterinary service and put into cardgo. Is that true? Does that mean that you're not able to take it with you into passenger seat after all?

Anyone have experience dealing with AQIS?
Among other requirements (vaccinations) AQIS require proof that animal was living last 6 months in "approved country". What can be such "evidence", our apartment rent bills? Or should I bring animal to Australian embassy so they would acknowledge that it's living here?

AQIS is quite unhelpful. They only reply "read out instructions on site". No special cases or exceptions.

Thank you.

are you on drugs or just plain stupid? no country on earth allows you to take cats as hand luggage and Australia certainly doesn't.

We brought both of our cats, they flew in cargo and were absolutely fine.

Get a grip
boom_meringue is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 10:51 am
  #3  
In my own little world!
 
Nicky & Dave's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,062
Nicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Originally Posted by CKramer

there are rumours that it's possible to bring cat with you as hand lugagge into passenger compartment.

Technically airlines will allow cats as hand lugagge if they are a) being worn as an item of clothing such as a pair of gloves or a scarf or b) are being used as actual hand baggage.

I think that Quantas allow koalas in the aircraft but I think that's only in First Class.

Nicky
Nicky & Dave is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 11:12 am
  #4  
BE Forum Addict
 
YoSemite's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Melbourne's Inner North
Posts: 1,003
YoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

some airlines will actually allow cats (and dogs) to travel as hand luggage providing they weight less than 8kgs and their cage is small enough to fit under the seat infront of you

airlines include BA, KLM, Virgin, american airlines and lufthansa among others...



but in reality you're having a laff if you think for 1 minute australia will let your pets in this way!. the reason that you won't find any info on this on the AQIS website is because the only way for animals to enter Oz is via cargo (excess baggage) and through the proper quarantine stations.

as steve&clare quire rightly said - think you need to get a grip!!


nicky i think you're wrong..... don't think qantas do allow koalas in 1st or any class..... however virgin do allow ferrets!!
YoSemite is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 11:14 am
  #5  
Home and Happy
 
Pollyana's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Location: Keep true friends and puppets close, trust no-one else...
Posts: 93,810
Pollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Maybe you could cunningly disguise the cat as a handbag and just carry it on board......
Attached Thumbnails Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.-cat-carrier.jpg  
Pollyana is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 11:15 am
  #6  
In my own little world!
 
Nicky & Dave's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,062
Nicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Originally Posted by Pollyana
Maybe you could cunningly disguise the cat as a handbag and just carry it on board......
PMSL!
Nicky & Dave is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 11:15 am
  #7  
BE Forum Addict
 
YoSemite's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Melbourne's Inner North
Posts: 1,003
YoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond reputeYoSemite has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

of course security might take exception with all the metal involved eh!!!! hehehehe
YoSemite is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 11:28 am
  #8  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Location: Near Bond Street, London W1
Posts: 442
Ian12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond reputeIan12 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

We brought our diabetic 1 year burmese. She was well looked after in quarantine - given her daily insulin jabs at no extra cost to us. She probably had more room in her specially made cage (included in the costs) than we did.
Good luck

Originally Posted by CKramer
Hello,

We have two show cats and plan to immigrate.

We are terrified of requirement that animal must be transported in cargo container. We heard a lot of stories of animals freeze to death, suffoceate , gone crazy or permanently scared after cargo flight.
Especially that flight from Europe to Australia is longest ever possible, more than 12 hours.
Our cats are show cats and very delicate. You just can't put them in cargo.

On the contrary there are rumours that it's possible to bring cat with you as hand lugagge into passenger compartment. Anyone can confirm that? what is the procedure? You have to beg airline to allow you ? Buy extra seat? Bribe flight attendant? All of the above?

And there is not-very-clear AQIS requirement that animal must be flown only from one of approved airports (Singapore, Copenhagen, ...), where it would be sealed in the container by veterinary service and put into cardgo. Is that true? Does that mean that you're not able to take it with you into passenger seat after all?

Anyone have experience dealing with AQIS?
Among other requirements (vaccinations) AQIS require proof that animal was living last 6 months in "approved country". What can be such "evidence", our apartment rent bills? Or should I bring animal to Australian embassy so they would acknowledge that it's living here?

AQIS is quite unhelpful. They only reply "read out instructions on site". No special cases or exceptions.

Thank you.
Ian12 is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 11:42 am
  #9  
BE Enthusiast
 
Gold Coaster's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Sanctuary Cove, Gold Coast, Queensland
Posts: 689
Gold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

That was a funny post, has made my new year.

My 2 cats flew from London to Sydney in cargo which is regulated by law to 65c temperature and quite dark so they do not get stressed. They will be no more stressed than if you left them overnight at home in the dark. Also my sister transfered a 17 hand stallion racehorse from Sydney to London in the planes hold, so if horses can do it I am sure your pussy will be in fantastic condition.
Gold Coaster is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 11:44 am
  #10  
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,940
rossifumi will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Well, I was dying to post the first reply to this but was too busy pissing myself and wondered "is this a wind up?"

Bizzare!
rossifumi is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 11:54 am
  #11  
Kramer
Thread Starter
 
CKramer's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 34
CKramer is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Originally Posted by Gold Coaster
My 2 cats flew from London to Sydney in cargo which is regulated by law to 65c temperature
65c temperature? Did they survive?
CKramer is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 12:03 pm
  #12  
BE Enthusiast
 
Gold Coaster's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Sanctuary Cove, Gold Coast, Queensland
Posts: 689
Gold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Originally Posted by CKramer
65c temperature? Did they survive?

Well, no they both died , but otherwise they were fine.

lol
Gold Coaster is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 12:05 pm
  #13  
In my own little world!
 
Nicky & Dave's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,062
Nicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond reputeNicky & Dave has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Originally Posted by Ian12
We brought our diabetic 1 year burmese. She was well looked after in quarantine - given her daily insulin jabs at no extra cost to us. She probably had more room in her specially made cage (included in the costs) than we did.
Good luck

Perhaps the OP is approaching this from the wrong angle - I've heard that in certain circumstances airlines will make an exception and allow owners to accompany their pets in the hold for the duration of the flight?


Nicky
Nicky & Dave is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 12:14 pm
  #14  
BE Enthusiast
 
Gold Coaster's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Sanctuary Cove, Gold Coast, Queensland
Posts: 689
Gold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond reputeGold Coaster has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Originally Posted by Nicky & Dave
Perhaps the OP is approaching this from the wrong angle - I've heard that in certain circumstances airlines will make an exception and allow owners to accompany their pets in the hold for the duration of the flight?


Nicky

Think this may be true on some domestic routes but certainly not long hall flights.
Gold Coaster is offline  
Old Jan 4th 2006, 2:10 pm
  #15  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: Willetton, WA
Posts: 108
nomayaja has a spectacular aura aboutnomayaja has a spectacular aura aboutnomayaja has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Anyone managed to bring cat to Australia? Many questions. AQIS don't help.

Originally Posted by Steve&Clare
are you on drugs or just plain stupid? no country on earth allows you to take cats as hand luggage and Australia certainly doesn't.

We brought both of our cats, they flew in cargo and were absolutely fine.

Get a grip
There are some countries that allow cats on as hand luggage. When we moved from Cyprus to France our cat came with us on the plane and through customs. No problem. Maybe it was allowed because it was within Europe. Well, our cat is now going to move with us to Australia (fingers crossed that we get our visas!).

Regards, Marina
nomayaja is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.