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Paul & June Sep 12th 2013 4:14 pm
Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Hi,

Can anyone help me.
I was made redundant a few weeks back.
I'm a mechanical draftsman and fed up of being out of work again.
Perth is tuff place if you don't know anyone.
Last time it took five months to get job and that was by chance.
Seek. cold calling, doing it.
Sorry if your in the same boat.

Paul

northernbird Sep 12th 2013 10:51 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
It's a crap place right now for drafting jobs generally. Call Swann and Fircroft agencies. Good luck.

robertnhelen Sep 15th 2013 10:57 am
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Hi Paul,

Are you wanting to stay in Perth?

Cheers,

Rob.

Paul & June Sep 15th 2013 12:30 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
We have been trying to make Perth our home.
But who knows, family of four might have no choice but to move on for work.

Amazulu Sep 15th 2013 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Paul & June (Post 10902418)
We have been trying to make Perth our home.
But who knows, family of four might have no choice but to move on for work.
Try Clough. They are advertising at the moment for Gorgon

Beoz Sep 15th 2013 7:09 pm
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Drafting by hand, or on the 'puter? If 'puter which kit?

Paul & June Sep 15th 2013 9:37 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
We never forget hand.
Just being using Autocad and before that Microstation.
Before that Unigrahics, Pro engineer. Catia and a few more 2D and 3D package s.

Beoz Sep 16th 2013 12:21 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by Paul & June (Post 10902774)
We never forget hand.
Just being using Autocad and before that Microstation.
Before that Unigrahics, Pro engineer. Catia and a few more 2D and 3D package s.
Catia .... now there's a beautiful beast ..... any Catia work in Western Australia?

Amazulu Sep 16th 2013 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 10904067)
Catia .... now there's a beautiful beast ..... any Catia work in Western Australia?
PDMS 12.1 is the new(ish) kid on the block

Paul & June Sep 23rd 2013 5:53 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Good system.

northernbird Sep 23rd 2013 5:57 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 10904144)
PDMS 12.1 is the new(ish) kid on the block
If only more companies used it.

Amazulu Sep 24th 2013 10:16 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10915152)
If only more companies used it.
I'm up in KL doing training in it right now

Was here 2 weeks ago too

northernbird Sep 24th 2013 10:28 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 10917063)
I'm up in KL doing training in it right now

Was here 2 weeks ago too
My husband used to work for the company who develop it, has used it for over 20 years. Would be nice if it was used by more Perth companies.

Amazulu Sep 24th 2013 10:31 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10917075)
My husband used to work for the company who develop it, has used it for over 20 years. Would be nice if it was used by more Perth companies.
That's who I'm doing the training with

irishbloo Sep 25th 2013 12:06 am
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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 10917084)
That's who I'm doing the training with
What,with Nbs husband.!!

northernbird Sep 25th 2013 12:08 am
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by irishbloo (Post 10917223)
What,with Nbs husband.!!
:) No, Aveva. They are the company that design and sell PDMS.

Beoz Sep 25th 2013 12:09 am
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 10917084)
That's who I'm doing the training with
Aveva?

What's its big assests over its competitors? There was a youtube flick and all it was doing was zooming in and out and isolating pumps and stuff.

Does Bentley still have a market in this space? What about autodesk?

irishbloo Sep 25th 2013 12:09 am
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10917226)
:) No, Aveva. They are the company that design and sell PDMS.
:D .was just teasing.

jimbo_d Sep 25th 2013 8:23 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 10917227)
Aveva?

What's its big assests over its competitors? There was a youtube flick and all it was doing was zooming in and out and isolating pumps and stuff.

Does Bentley still have a market in this space? What about autodesk?
Bentley still do with Autoplant, other than that PDMS is gaining ground as the primary plant design package over PDS. Intergraph released Smartplant which was going to change everything but it's too hard to get going for projects and costs too much.

Re drafting roles they are few and far between at the mo. Many large projects have finished or are about to with not much in the near future lined up. It's really a case of who you know now - a lot of guys are now looking overseas with the Middle East and UK looking the best places. It's been pretty shite for the last year with no let up in sight.

For work in Perth try Amec and Forge they're the only places with lots on from Roy Hill. The others are all getting rid of people right now.

Beoz Sep 25th 2013 9:03 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by jimbo_d (Post 10918655)
Bentley still do with Autoplant, other than that PDMS is gaining ground as the primary plant design package over PDS. Intergraph released Smartplant which was going to change everything but it's too hard to get going for projects and costs too much.

Re drafting roles they are few and far between at the mo. Many large projects have finished or are about to with not much in the near future lined up. It's really a case of who you know now - a lot of guys are now looking overseas with the Middle East and UK looking the best places. It's been pretty shite for the last year with no let up in sight.

For work in Perth try Amec and Forge they're the only places with lots on from Roy Hill. The others are all getting rid of people right now.
Is Autoplant the same as this Openplant?

http://www.bentley.com/en-US/Products/OpenPlant/

Amazulu Sep 25th 2013 10:11 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 10917227)
Aveva?

What's its big assests over its competitors? There was a youtube flick and all it was doing was zooming in and out and isolating pumps and stuff.

Does Bentley still have a market in this space? What about autodesk?
PDMS is the current hot product in 3D modelling here, the UK, USA and Asia. Bentley and Autodesk have products but they don't come close to the functionality of PDMS. Saying that, PDMS does some things in a pretty f**ked up, backward way too.

I'm learning it in order to up-skill. I'm bored of mining and want to move into O&G (I'm also doing a dual MBA/MSc in Energy as well). It will mean me taking a step backwards (which I have never done before) but will be worth it in the long run. There are currently roles available for it in Perth right now, and in the UK there is shitloads of PDMS work - paying good candy too

jimbo_d Sep 26th 2013 3:15 pm
Re: Any Drafting Roles Going
 
Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 10918700)
Is Autoplant the same as this Openplant?

http://www.bentley.com/en-US/Products/OpenPlant/
Nope, openplant was the replacement for plantspace. I've never heard of an EPC using openplant, some still use plantspace though. Autoplant is the primary plant design tool in use in Canada and is still used quite widley here and UK. PDMS is only useful on large plants though as it's a cumbersome beast and costs quite a lot to administer.

I think the rates now for PDMS designers in O&G and nuclear in the UK are now higher than Australia....


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