Anti 4x4 sentiment
Apr 1st 2007, 6:05 am
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Apr 1st 2007, 6:58 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
please excuse my ignorance but where the hell are you based at the minute ,you are asking about 4x4's in Aust yet I have just been reading your thread on a reccie to brisbane and another where you where offering opinion on Ipswitch as if you had lived there (although you say you haven't) if you're not in Aust yet I think what you drive is of little conciquence and more improtantly house job etc. and if you are in the UK what the hell do you need a 4x4 for ?? make sure the pedestrians go down and under like a roo instead of though the windshield? 
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Apr 1st 2007, 7:08 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
Apr 1st 2007, 7:12 am
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Apr 1st 2007, 8:18 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
We drive a Disco at the moment and looking at the prices in OZ is it worth transporting it.
BTW we drive one as we love it and hubby works on them so its cheap to fix he services it himself.
Lisa
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As for person (sorry should have quoted) selling 1.8 Freelander hubby says petrol Freelander do not sell well 2nd hand, you should have brought a disco or at least a diesel but good luck hope you manage to get rid of it.
BTW we drive one as we love it and hubby works on them so its cheap to fix he services it himself.
Lisa
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As for person (sorry should have quoted) selling 1.8 Freelander hubby says petrol Freelander do not sell well 2nd hand, you should have brought a disco or at least a diesel but good luck hope you manage to get rid of it.
Apr 1st 2007, 8:39 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
Bloody hell Amazulu, I swear that every time I read one of your posts you have gotten more right wing!
Apr 1st 2007, 8:42 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
Yes I know many people that did need them,but I was speaking about myself really I didn't one. I think if it's a necessity in the UK some allowances should be made.
Apr 1st 2007, 9:01 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
No.
Or your spelling.
It's one of many details people like to think about prior to making the move. Just because BB has posted on the subject, does not mean they plan to arrive in Australia with a couple of suitcases and head straight down to the local Toyota dealership. Moreover, if you have a commute ahead of you (many people have employment arranged prior to arrival) then the type of car you purchase in Australia is extremely important, in terms of fuel economy and therefore your weekly outgoings and ongoing viability of living in certain areas. If you have a family then considerations on safety and vehicle passenger capacity is important. Discussing these issues with informed people is what this 'discussion' forum is for.
Maybe BB lives 15 miles up a farm track in Northern Wales. Maybe BB works for a government agency that requires regular trips 'off-road' to inspect storm culverts. Maybe BB is an architect and needs to visit building sites. Maybe BB is a rural vet. Lots of people are perfectly justified in owning a 4x4, even though they live in the UK ... last time I checked it hadn't been completely tarmac'd over yet.
Wouldn't have thought so ... though I reckon an exception could be made in your case.
Or your spelling.
Maybe BB lives 15 miles up a farm track in Northern Wales. Maybe BB works for a government agency that requires regular trips 'off-road' to inspect storm culverts. Maybe BB is an architect and needs to visit building sites. Maybe BB is a rural vet. Lots of people are perfectly justified in owning a 4x4, even though they live in the UK ... last time I checked it hadn't been completely tarmac'd over yet.
Wouldn't have thought so ... though I reckon an exception could be made in your case.
Apr 1st 2007, 9:13 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
I agree Hutch, a lot of folk who post on here have bought cars over the internet and arranged to pick them up on arrival. Saves time messing around hiring a car if you know the make and model you want.
Some people are born organisers and like everything squared away and nothing left to chance............................................ ..........................if only I'd married one of those
Some people are born organisers and like everything squared away and nothing left to chance............................................ ..........................if only I'd married one of those
Apr 1st 2007, 9:17 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
There would be no point as landrover parts are expensive in Oz. You can pick up a fab Toyota 4 x 4 for a fraction of what they cost here plus they are far more reliable and the parts are cheap out there. This is coming from someone that actually off roads and knows there 4 x 4's.
Apr 1st 2007, 9:36 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
I agree Hutch, a lot of folk who post on here have bought cars over the internet and arranged to pick them up on arrival. Saves time messing around hiring a car if you know the make and model you want.
Some people are born organisers and like everything squared away and nothing left to chance............................................ ..........................if only I'd married one of those
Some people are born organisers and like everything squared away and nothing left to chance............................................ ..........................if only I'd married one of those
Apr 1st 2007, 9:38 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
all parts are expensive in oz, funny thing though ,people buy toyotas etc and forget that 50-60 yrs ago we were worried about the "red" invasion now we sell our primary resource (coal ore etc) then buy back products and smile at how lucky we are ! nothing is produced in this country and before you point at holden they are assembled here not manufatured . just MO
Apr 1st 2007, 9:39 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
I live in the UK and I drive a 4x4, I make no excuse for it, I have a fairly green agenda in life but I simply dont see owning a 4x4 as the greatest crime against the planet out there, with industry pumping the majority of the pollutants into the atmosphere I cant see how changing what you drive makes a jot of difference.
What would I change to? I need a larger car, so do I buy an Estate? Much bigger than a hell of a lot of 4x4's and some are far more polluting!
How about a Prius? Well the energy used to produce them makes them just as polluting over their life time as any gass guzzler.
As someone who has been at the raw end of 4x4 rage recently I cant believe that we are now being told what kind of car we are allowed to drive! The cold hard fact is that the most common reason cited is anger at people driving an expensive 4x4, because I can tell you none of my friends who drive beaten up landrovers get any stick, it is classist yet again, people are jealous because they have become a status symbol here in the UK and in Europe! Then they try to back up their argument with comments like "they kill children quicker" or "they are the biggest polluters on the road" or what ever other line is taken by the lefties that week.
Drive one if you want to, if you dont then dont!
What would I change to? I need a larger car, so do I buy an Estate? Much bigger than a hell of a lot of 4x4's and some are far more polluting!
How about a Prius? Well the energy used to produce them makes them just as polluting over their life time as any gass guzzler.
As someone who has been at the raw end of 4x4 rage recently I cant believe that we are now being told what kind of car we are allowed to drive! The cold hard fact is that the most common reason cited is anger at people driving an expensive 4x4, because I can tell you none of my friends who drive beaten up landrovers get any stick, it is classist yet again, people are jealous because they have become a status symbol here in the UK and in Europe! Then they try to back up their argument with comments like "they kill children quicker" or "they are the biggest polluters on the road" or what ever other line is taken by the lefties that week.
Drive one if you want to, if you dont then dont!
Apr 1st 2007, 9:42 am
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Re: Anti 4x4 sentiment
No.
Or your spelling.
back to the spelling tut tut tut
It's one of many details people like to think about prior to making the move. Just because BB has posted on the subject, does not mean they plan to arrive in Australia with a couple of suitcases and head straight down to the local Toyota dealership. Moreover, if you have a commute ahead of you (many people have employment arranged prior to arrival) then the type of car you purchase in Australia is extremely important, in terms of fuel economy and therefore your weekly outgoings and ongoing viability of living in certain areas. If you have a family then considerations on safety and vehicle passenger capacity is important. Discussing these issues with informed people is what this 'discussion' forum is for.
if you have lined up work then you will have rented a car to assess your need ,I have come across people who have done just that headed out bought a car the day they landed .if you wish to discuss safety features ,then I am only to pleased to join in as engineering is what I do not write stories
Maybe BB lives 15 miles up a farm track in Northern Wales. Maybe BB works for a government agency that requires regular trips 'off-road' to inspect storm culverts. Maybe BB is an architect and needs to visit building sites. Maybe BB is a rural vet. Lots of people are perfectly justified in owning a 4x4, even though they live in the UK ... last time I checked it hadn't been completely tarmac'd over yet.
maybe but I think not
Wouldn't have thought so ... though I reckon an exception could be made in your case.
Or your spelling.
back to the spelling tut tut tut
It's one of many details people like to think about prior to making the move. Just because BB has posted on the subject, does not mean they plan to arrive in Australia with a couple of suitcases and head straight down to the local Toyota dealership. Moreover, if you have a commute ahead of you (many people have employment arranged prior to arrival) then the type of car you purchase in Australia is extremely important, in terms of fuel economy and therefore your weekly outgoings and ongoing viability of living in certain areas. If you have a family then considerations on safety and vehicle passenger capacity is important. Discussing these issues with informed people is what this 'discussion' forum is for.
if you have lined up work then you will have rented a car to assess your need ,I have come across people who have done just that headed out bought a car the day they landed .if you wish to discuss safety features ,then I am only to pleased to join in as engineering is what I do not write stories
Maybe BB lives 15 miles up a farm track in Northern Wales. Maybe BB works for a government agency that requires regular trips 'off-road' to inspect storm culverts. Maybe BB is an architect and needs to visit building sites. Maybe BB is a rural vet. Lots of people are perfectly justified in owning a 4x4, even though they live in the UK ... last time I checked it hadn't been completely tarmac'd over yet.
maybe but I think not
Wouldn't have thought so ... though I reckon an exception could be made in your case.
also alot of maybe's but no facts and i believe towing a boat and the wife being happy round town where 2 considerations which negates outback wales etc etc etc
as I have said before justify it to yourself I don't give a fig .if you wish to drive round town playing look how good I am in my 4x4 go for it just don't expect every one to pat you on the back and say good fellow and don't get bent when not every one agrees . One last point if you want safety then spend the doe and buy it .side curtain air bags are an advertising gimmic and offer no extra protection over the structure of the car in side impact accidents or full frontal they cause more injury but hey your money your kids .............