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Old Jun 25th 2007, 9:51 am
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hi guys

have had a search but cant find the "idiots guide to citizenship"!

We are looking at moving in September on a 136 visa. Now, will we have to wait 2 or 4 years before applying? (Am just wondering as the 136 visa is valid initially for 5 years!)

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Originally Posted by chmaiden
hi guys

have had a search but cant find the "idiots guide to citizenship"!

We are looking at moving in September on a 136 visa. Now, will we have to wait 2 or 4 years before applying? (Am just wondering as the 136 visa is valid initially for 5 years!)

cheers

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have you validated your visa?
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have you validated your visa?
nope - we're doing it all in one go - selling house and moving out there all in september
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nope - we're doing it all in one go - selling house and moving out there all in september

You will come under the new requirements of 4 years
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You will come under the new requirements of 4 years
going ot have to have words with the migration agent then as they dont appear to know what they are talking about!
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Is the change date in September then? I thought it was in July....
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Is the change date in September then? I thought it was in July....

You are right, it's the 1st July
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going ot have to have words with the migration agent then as they dont appear to know what they are talking about!

To come under the 2 year rule you need to have validated your visa before the new legislation comes in. So you would have to come out before July 1st, even if it's just to clear customs and then return on the next flight.
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To come under the 2 year rule you need to have validated your visa before the new legislation comes in. So you would have to come out before July 1st, even if it's just to clear customs and then return on the next flight.
this is the reply that i got from the agent - all v confusing!!!
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this is the reply that i got from the agent - all v confusing!!!

If you can explain what you are confused about I may be able to clarify it for you
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Originally Posted by Wendy
If you can explain what you are confused about I may be able to clarify it for you
sorry -meant to post this reply from agent:

Hi Chris,

I confirm that the new legislation applies to people who are granted permanent residence after 1 July.

It is our understanding that a person is regarded as a permanent resident, when the visa is granted. As per the citizenship act therefore, you are a permanent resident (i.o.o)

More on this here:

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...egislation/cha...
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sorry -meant to post this reply from agent:


http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...egislation/cha...
The link does not work??????????
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The link does not work??????????

It should be this one: http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...m#requirements



chmaiden, these may help you understand a bit better http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...&postcount=167

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...&postcount=191

Basically to be classed as a PR you need to either be resident in Australia or have previously been resident in Australia, which means you would need to have validated. Before you validate, you aren't resident because you haven't been in the country.
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Also, if you have time it would probably help you to read all of this thread http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396979

Some may not be relevant to you, but it will give you all the answers (eventually)
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Originally Posted by Wendy
Also, if you have time it would probably help you to read all of this thread http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396979

Some may not be relevant to you, but it will give you all the answers (eventually)
cheers guys - this means that the agent is interpretting it incorrectly. I agree with you on this one Wendy
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