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Old Dec 1st 2005, 9:31 pm
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Question Annual Paid Leave - Citizenship

Dear All,

If you are engaged in activities beneficial to Australia in terms of financial etc. you may be considered for residence requirement.

If you obtain paid annual leave(20 days) from your Australian employer and you are paying tax on that salary.During those 20 days you go overseas for holidays and leisure.

Is this time will be considered as engaged in activities beneficial to Australia in terms of financial because, you are getting Australian salary and paying Australian tax on that salary?

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No it won't. You'll have to add an extra 20 days before you are eligible to apply.
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According to the person I spoke to at Dimia, unless you work for the government, or are representing Australia in a sporting event for instance, even if your travel outside Australia is strictly for business purposes, that time wil not count towards citizenship.

SO far I have 261 days clocked up on overseas business trips, with another one coming up next week

Dimias "list" of what is beneficial is quite bizzare: one normally has to have citizenship already to work in the public service, or represent Australia in a sporting event!
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Originally Posted by Trevglas
According to the person I spoke to at Dimia, unless you work for the government, or are representing Australia in a sporting event for instance, even if your travel outside Australia is strictly for business purposes, that time wil not count towards citizenship.

SO far I have 261 days clocked up on overseas business trips, with another one coming up next week

Dimias "list" of what is beneficial is quite bizzare: one normally has to have citizenship already to work in the public service, or represent Australia in a sporting event!
I work for the government, on renewable temp contracts as I'm not even PR yet, and have been told that neither the temp work, nor the work I will do once I get a PR contract, will count as "beneifical.
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Originally Posted by Trevglas
According to the person I spoke to at Dimia, unless you work for the government, or are representing Australia in a sporting event for instance, even if your travel outside Australia is strictly for business purposes, that time wil not count towards citizenship.

SO far I have 261 days clocked up on overseas business trips, with another one coming up next week

Dimias "list" of what is beneficial is quite bizzare: one normally has to have citizenship already to work in the public service, or represent Australia in a sporting event!
I got a phone call from a recruitment agency and they said they can't hire me.The reason was that they were hiring for some Government thing and I must have Australian citizenship to qualify for that role.
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Question Re: Annual Paid Leave - Citizenship

Originally Posted by Pollyana
I work for the government, on renewable temp contracts as I'm not even PR yet, and have been told that neither the temp work, nor the work I will do once I get a PR contract, will count as "beneifical.
Can somebody tell me what is this BENEFICIAL THING???? Because in my understanding a person is financially beneficial to the country if he/she is paying regular tax from his salary income???
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Originally Posted by smurtaza
I got a phone call from a recruitment agency and they said they can't hire me.The reason was that they were hiring for some Government thing and I must have Australian citizenship to qualify for that role.
Some govt jobs do require citizenship, some just PR, some govt jobs are available to temp visa holders. Depends on whether its Federal/State or Local govt, and on what the job is. Defence jobs for instance require citizenship, because of the security aspect.
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Some govt jobs do require citizenship, some just PR, some govt jobs are available to temp visa holders. Depends on whether its Federal/State or Local govt, and on what the job is. Defence jobs for instance require citizenship, because of the security aspect.
What do u recon
So should we wait till 2 years for that particular position or we can goto DIMA saying that I can't be hired as that recruitment told me that they need Australian Citizenship?
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Some govt jobs do require citizenship, some just PR, some govt jobs are available to temp visa holders. Depends on whether its Federal/State or Local govt, and on what the job is. Defence jobs for instance require citizenship, because of the security aspect.
Defence can be done you just have to state that you will apply for citizenship as soon as you are eligible. However they would have to prove that the position couldn't be filled by an Australian. Hubby works in defence and the security side wasn't a big deal but he couldn't get a job directly for the government as his area is a shrinking job market so there are always other Australians ready to do the job with training.
All depends on each person's interpretation of the rules.
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Originally Posted by smurtaza
What do u recon
So should we wait till 2 years for that particular position or we can goto DIMA saying that I can't be hired as that recruitment told me that they need Australian Citizenship?
What can DIMIA do about it?
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Originally Posted by Trevglas
According to the person I spoke to at Dimia, unless you work for the government, or are representing Australia in a sporting event for instance, even if your travel outside Australia is strictly for business purposes, that time wil not count towards citizenship.

SO far I have 261 days clocked up on overseas business trips, with another one coming up next week

Dimias "list" of what is beneficial is quite bizzare: one normally has to have citizenship already to work in the public service, or represent Australia in a sporting event!

If you were told that by the public enquiry line then don't take it as definitive. You should get some professional advice from one of the agents or lawyers who is well versed in citizenship (relatively few are) and take things from there.



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Originally Posted by NickyP
...Defence can be done you just have to state that you will apply for citizenship as soon as you are eligible. ...
Not when i applied for a graphic design position. I was told i needed to be a citizen or have applied to be.
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Not when i applied for a graphic design position. I was told i needed to be a citizen or have applied to be.
If the application is being dealt with by a recruitment agency then they just give the same blanket response as if the position can be filled by an Australian then they are not allowed to look at anyone without citizenship so it is easier to just work on citizenship required. We had a similar response when Ian applied for his current job but he got it and we are here on a 457 working towards PR then we have to apply for citizenship as soon as possible. He is in a highly specialised area though so it was easy to prove that there wasn't anyone available with his skills here.
It all comes down to your area of work but people with citizenship will always have the advantage in applications.
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You've got to be a citizen or PR to work at the University of WA
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