Airport security - where's the logic?
Nov 23rd 2003, 9:02 pm
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Airport security - where's the logic?
Dotty's just reminded me about something I wanted to ask about airport security in Oz. Had a strange experience last week and I'm struggling to understand the logic...any comments welcome!!
I flew from Mildura to Melbourne, Mildura being a regional (domestic) airport in northern Victoria. At Mildura airport, I walked into terminal and out thru a single door onto the tarmac and got on the plane - no security, no-one to check my boarding pass, certainly no x-ray scanners, not even asked what I was carrying in my hand luggage.
Boarded the Qantas jet (about 40 seats) and flew to Mel.
On arrival at Melbourne we walked across the tarmac and into the domestic terminal and had to put our bags thru x-ray machines. People walking underneath the metal detetcor are being asked to remove belts, keys etc as they are setting off the alarms. The woman in front of me got stopped and had her bag searched as the x-ray showed she was carrying a pair of scissors.
I really don't understand the logic inthis - isn't this akin to locking the stable door after the horse has bolted ??
(And by the time I got to the baggage carousel, my bag had already been taken off and was with my husband who had come topick me up - there's certainly a lot of trust in that system!)
I flew from Mildura to Melbourne, Mildura being a regional (domestic) airport in northern Victoria. At Mildura airport, I walked into terminal and out thru a single door onto the tarmac and got on the plane - no security, no-one to check my boarding pass, certainly no x-ray scanners, not even asked what I was carrying in my hand luggage.
Boarded the Qantas jet (about 40 seats) and flew to Mel.
On arrival at Melbourne we walked across the tarmac and into the domestic terminal and had to put our bags thru x-ray machines. People walking underneath the metal detetcor are being asked to remove belts, keys etc as they are setting off the alarms. The woman in front of me got stopped and had her bag searched as the x-ray showed she was carrying a pair of scissors.
I really don't understand the logic inthis - isn't this akin to locking the stable door after the horse has bolted ??
(And by the time I got to the baggage carousel, my bag had already been taken off and was with my husband who had come topick me up - there's certainly a lot of trust in that system!)
Nov 23rd 2003, 9:16 pm
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The last time I flew Qantas from London to Oz (last year) , a woman a few rows in front of me produced a complete tapestry set which she proceeded to work on throughout the flight. What got to me was the extremely long needle, and large pair of scissors, she was working with! Full marks to security at Heathrow - you missed that one!
Nov 23rd 2003, 10:38 pm
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Regional airport security has been identified as a weak point in "fortress Aussie". To prevent exploitation all passengers entering the terminal are screened to prevent transfers become a security risk.
I find my shoes set off Aussie metal detectors so I now have to wear matching socks on flights.
I find my shoes set off Aussie metal detectors so I now have to wear matching socks on flights.
Nov 24th 2003, 1:50 am
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Originally posted by bondipom
Regional airport security has been identified as a weak point in "fortress Aussie". To prevent exploitation all passengers entering the terminal are screened to prevent transfers become a security risk.
I find my shoes set off Aussie metal detectors so I now have to wear matching socks on flights.
Regional airport security has been identified as a weak point in "fortress Aussie". To prevent exploitation all passengers entering the terminal are screened to prevent transfers become a security risk.
I find my shoes set off Aussie metal detectors so I now have to wear matching socks on flights.
My shoes too, and this is all, I no longer take off the belt, put in money, phone, wallet etc - its just the shoes. Bought new pair recently and hoped they wouldn't set it off, they do and they are laceups - wish I'd kept with slip-ons
Nov 24th 2003, 1:59 am
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Originally posted by jayr
My shoes too, and this is all, I no longer take off the belt, put in money, phone, wallet etc - its just the shoes. Bought new pair recently and hoped they wouldn't set it off, they do and they are laceups - wish I'd kept with slip-ons
My shoes too, and this is all, I no longer take off the belt, put in money, phone, wallet etc - its just the shoes. Bought new pair recently and hoped they wouldn't set it off, they do and they are laceups - wish I'd kept with slip-ons
Nov 24th 2003, 2:07 am
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Originally posted by MrsDagboy
Shall we call you Imelda?
Shall we call you Imelda?
Now that would be my wife. I bought new ones cos the others had holes in. Even in Queensland at least one pair of shoes should be owned. I was in Melbourne last week and saw a bloke walking throguh the CBD barefoot - must be a Queenslander I thought
Nov 24th 2003, 2:18 am
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Originally posted by jayr
Now that would be my wife. I bought new ones cos the others had holes in. Even in Queensland at least one pair of shoes should be owned. I was in Melbourne last week and saw a bloke walking throguh the CBD barefoot - must be a Queenslander I thought
Now that would be my wife. I bought new ones cos the others had holes in. Even in Queensland at least one pair of shoes should be owned. I was in Melbourne last week and saw a bloke walking throguh the CBD barefoot - must be a Queenslander I thought
No one in their right mind living in Melb would be without shoes, your feet would get cold & they would get wet walking through the puddles!
Im disappointed now, I thought Dagboy may have found a new mate to discuss the virtues of 200 pairs of shoes with. He just doesnt fit in up here with that many pairs, as you can well imagine
Nov 24th 2003, 2:22 am
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Originally posted by MrsDagboy
Im disappointed now, I thought Dagboy may have found a new mate to discuss the virtues of 200 pairs of shoes with. He just doesnt fit in up here with that many pairs, as you can well imagine
Im disappointed now, I thought Dagboy may have found a new mate to discuss the virtues of 200 pairs of shoes with. He just doesnt fit in up here with that many pairs, as you can well imagine
That's more than a lifetime's worth of shoes to your average Queenslander! And whilst on the subject, what size to ask for when buying shoes? Do I ask for European 44, UK 10 or Aussie something else? It seemed to vary shop to shop and was even worse when I bought my wife some nice Birkies (or is it Birkos).
Nov 24th 2003, 2:38 am
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Originally posted by jayr
That's more than a lifetime's worth of shoes to your average Queenslander! And whilst on the subject, what size to ask for when buying shoes? Do I ask for European 44, UK 10 or Aussie something else? It seemed to vary shop to shop and was even worse when I bought my wife some nice Birkies (or is it Birkos).
That's more than a lifetime's worth of shoes to your average Queenslander! And whilst on the subject, what size to ask for when buying shoes? Do I ask for European 44, UK 10 or Aussie something else? It seemed to vary shop to shop and was even worse when I bought my wife some nice Birkies (or is it Birkos).
. As for the sizes, thats the joys of being multicultural/multilingual/multipodial 
Come to think of it we got very strange looks from the removalists when we had 15 boxes of clothes & shoes from our bedroom closet & only 2 were mine
(oh dear Im dead meat when he gets home LOL)
Nov 24th 2003, 2:50 am
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Mrs D, when my best mate turns up for the wedding, he and Dagboy will get on just fine! He has more shoes (and clothes) than even Dagboy would believe - and he is the only bloke I've ever met that hangs each t-shirt on a coathanger, and then carries spare coathangers in the car..."just in case" !!!
Jayr, I've found Aussie shoe sizes - and clothes sizes - are generally one size larger than the UK ( size 7 in UK, 8 in Oz - thats shoes by the way, I haven't been that size in clothes since I was about 9!!!!);
Jayr, I've found Aussie shoe sizes - and clothes sizes - are generally one size larger than the UK ( size 7 in UK, 8 in Oz - thats shoes by the way, I haven't been that size in clothes since I was about 9!!!!);
Nov 24th 2003, 2:53 am
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Originally posted by Pollyana
Mrs D, when my best mate turns up for the wedding, he and Dagboy will get on just fine! He has more shoes (and clothes) than even Dagboy would believe - and he is the only bloke I've ever met that hangs each t-shirt on a coathanger, and then carries spare coathangers in the car..."just in case" !!!
Mrs D, when my best mate turns up for the wedding, he and Dagboy will get on just fine! He has more shoes (and clothes) than even Dagboy would believe - and he is the only bloke I've ever met that hangs each t-shirt on a coathanger, and then carries spare coathangers in the car..."just in case" !!!
Pollyanna, I have suspicions that your best mate may be gay.
Nov 24th 2003, 2:59 am
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Originally posted by jayr
Pollyanna, I have suspicions that your best mate may be gay.
Pollyanna, I have suspicions that your best mate may be gay.
Dagboys just a yuppy, definitely not gay, although hes almost always very happy
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Nov 24th 2003, 3:00 am
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Originally posted by MrsDagboy
Im not even going to go there! LOL
Dagboys just a yuppy, definitely not gay, although hes almost always very happy.
Im not even going to go there! LOL
Dagboys just a yuppy, definitely not gay, although hes almost always very happy
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I would be too with 200 pairs of shoes...happy that is!
Nov 24th 2003, 3:01 am
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poor HP, we've taken over your thread with talk of shoes & clothes LOL sorry!
Nov 24th 2003, 3:01 am
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Originally posted by jayr
I would be too with 200 pairs of shoes...happy that is!
I would be too with 200 pairs of shoes...happy that is!