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sassie Jan 20th 2007 11:55 am

Re: Advice for new build!
 

Originally Posted by woody1cruiser (Post 4305923)
Sorry to butt in.

We purchased our block cash. We are on a 457 but application for PR being considered as we talk. I know we have to wait for PR before we can claim the first homebuyers grant but do we also have to wait for the house to be completed or can we claim just on the block? I know it has to be within 12 months so that is why I am fretting a bit as 12 months from buying the block would be a bit tight for time but completion of build would be good.

Debs

Hi. You only get the grant on the build, not the land. I see you are in western australia, so the rules may be slightly different, but in Queensland, you get the grant when the build is complete, and have to occupy the residence as your sole place of abode within 12 months, although it would appear in some other states, you get the grant when the first stage payment is due.

biggy Jan 20th 2007 12:38 pm

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i am in Qld we applied for the first home owners grant thro the bank when we got the mortgage and the money was released and sitting in our mortgage account as soon as we took out the first draw

cresta57 Jan 20th 2007 1:21 pm

Re: Advice for new build!
 

Originally Posted by biggy (Post 4306120)
i am in Qld we applied for the first home owners grant thro the bank when we got the mortgage and the money was released and sitting in our mortgage account as soon as we took out the first draw

I think it must depend upon the individual lender/finance company as we were able to claim ours as soon as we'd made the first stage payment. Some friends of ours had to wait for a completion certificate before they could get theirs though.:confused:

Wol Jan 20th 2007 7:05 pm

Re: Advice for new build!
 

Originally Posted by glittababe (Post 4303938)
Ahhh dear, well after umming and ahhing over what to do house wise, we've decided to take the plunge (and a mortgage) and build. This is all new to us. We haven't got a clue where to start! We've looked at land, looked at some display homes and we've more or less decided on a company. After securing the land, what then happens? The sales rep for Plantation Homes said we have to be realistic and allow at least 12 mths for a build (start to finish inc all the admin, planning etc). She said financially we have to make sure we can afford the build and 12mths rent - its going to be really tough. The alternative is to buy a house a few years old but we just can't get what we want. We are being slightly fussy but then we left a bloody nice house in the UK that we renovated for 10 yrs! We just don't want to compromise and buy something that needs 'doing up' having been there done that. We don't have savings and will need finance for the whole project. Be grateful of an insight into building, the pitfalls, how much extra to allow etc The house build we're looking at is $225,000, land $199,000 gently sloping so will need extra groundworks/reinforcements of up to $30,000 (just a quote tho).

Sloping land often means better views, so may be worth the extra $$ for footings. Our own build is on quite a slope, beautiful views and mega$$ for footings but worth it...

We are getting a custom build, but be aware that a "pre- designed" home may have minimal things such as very few lights and power sockets included - all extras to be charged. Our present, new, rental has so few electrical sockets it's comical - just done the hoovering and finding a power outlet, unplugging whatever was in it and then resetting clocks etc is NOT fun!

woody1cruiser Jan 20th 2007 7:50 pm

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I know what you mean on that score. We are also in a brand new rental and a single power sockt in the cinema room is a joke. There is also only one aerial socket in the whole house and one telephone socket. We have extension leads going everywhere. Also, there is no light in the corridor between the living area and the boys bedrooms at the back. Means turning on all the other lights along the way to see where you are going at night (laundry, bathroom, study).

We have definitely learnt from this and made many adjustments on our new build. We were aware of the way the builders 'sting' you for things like that and planned very carefully.

Debs

glittababe Jan 20th 2007 8:54 pm

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Originally Posted by woody1cruiser (Post 4306669)
I know what you mean on that score. We are also in a brand new rental and a single power sockt in the cinema room is a joke. There is also only one aerial socket in the whole house and one telephone socket. We have extension leads going everywhere. Also, there is no light in the corridor between the living area and the boys bedrooms at the back. Means turning on all the other lights along the way to see where you are going at night (laundry, bathroom, study).

We have definitely learnt from this and made many adjustments on our new build. We were aware of the way the builders 'sting' you for things like that and planned very carefully.

Debs

ummm thats interesting and worth remembering. Our rentals ok on that score - well aside from the fact that the only TV point is in the kitchen, not one in the living area where you'd expect! Socket wise it seems to be ok, telephone points in most rooms. Looked at the land again today, good to do it second time round with fresh eyes. Its more than gently sloping and the outlook isn't great (backs on Joes Waterhole Pub, Eumundi - noise terrible). Back to drawing board.

sassie Jan 20th 2007 9:11 pm

Re: Advice for new build!
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 4306242)
I think it must depend upon the individual lender/finance company as we were able to claim ours as soon as we'd made the first stage payment. Some friends of ours had to wait for a completion certificate before they could get theirs though.:confused:

Yep, sorry, should have made it more clear. If you apply direct to the Office of State Revenue, then the grant is paid upon completion. If you apply through an agent, bank, mortgage lender, etc, then payment is made upon payment of the first stage.

phillip&sharon Jan 20th 2007 9:23 pm

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Originally Posted by woody1cruiser (Post 4304618)
We were faced with this as well. When we realised you have to pay stamp duty on houses, we decided to go for our own build. We have bought an 1100 ($230k) block and having a 255 sqm house built on it ($202k after prestart).

We know we will be paying rent and mortgage at the same time but decided, at the end, we will have what we want and like you, we couldn't find anything that had large bedrooms for the boys.

Good luck

Debs

With the process of the build and the time and effort will the house be worth more than your total outlay.

phillip.

woody1cruiser Jan 20th 2007 9:40 pm

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It will be worth it. Houses in the area that we have looked for on 800 sqm blocks are not we want (priced at over $500k). The build we have picked is a 255 sqm which is a lot larger than ones we have seen and the house is the way we want it. That includes the bedrooms for the boys being 4sqm and a spa bath in the ensuite.

As others have stated before, we are on an interest only mortgage and I was sponsored with my job. Hubby has managed to get a night job so it fits in with the kids and we haven't broken into his wages yet so finances are no worries.

At the end of the day, we have made it out here (which was against what most wanted us to do) so we may as well have the house we want.

Debs

glittababe Jan 20th 2007 11:01 pm

Re: Advice for new build!
 

Originally Posted by woody1cruiser (Post 4306853)
It will be worth it. Houses in the area that we have looked for on 800 sqm blocks are not we want (priced at over $500k). The build we have picked is a 255 sqm which is a lot larger than ones we have seen and the house is the way we want it. That includes the bedrooms for the boys being 4sqm and a spa bath in the ensuite.

As others have stated before, we are on an interest only mortgage and I was sponsored with my job. Hubby has managed to get a night job so it fits in with the kids and we haven't broken into his wages yet so finances are no worries.

At the end of the day, we have made it out here (which was against what most wanted us to do) so we may as well have the house we want.

Debs

You are in the same boat as us!!! Off work this week so will put 100% into finding out where we need to start! Its little things we need to know like who pays and submits the planning application? Do we pay for it or do Plantation Homes? Why is soil testing $1000 and whats with checking the land for mines!

sassie Jan 21st 2007 12:02 am

Re: Advice for new build!
 

Originally Posted by glittababe (Post 4307006)
You are in the same boat as us!!! Off work this week so will put 100% into finding out where we need to start! Its little things we need to know like who pays and submits the planning application? Do we pay for it or do Plantation Homes? Why is soil testing $1000 and whats with checking the land for mines!

When we were building, our builders took care of everything, submitting plans, organising soil tests, etc. It was all included in the contract price. Actually, I remember now, the soil tests had to be done before contracts were signed, so we initially had to pay upfront for the test, but that came off the amount we had to pay for the deposit which was 5%.

woody1cruiser Jan 21st 2007 12:26 am

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Yes, our builders are taking care of verything as well/ We had to sort out what we wanted according to their plans. You can hav internal walls moved but external are a bit expensive. We then paid $1,500 for them to start the process off. We then received a file through with all our choices of colours, bricks etc. When everything was through, we then went to pre-start where everything was set in stone. At this stage we needed a conditional mortgage offer.

Now the unconditional mortgage has come through, final plans signed, we are just waiting for a start date.

Good luck and keep us posted. I think it is very exciting although I feel frustration will probably hit when it isn't going as quickly as I would like.

Debs

cresta57 Jan 21st 2007 12:49 am

Re: Advice for new build!
 

Originally Posted by glittababe (Post 4307006)
You are in the same boat as us!!! Off work this week so will put 100% into finding out where we need to start! Its little things we need to know like who pays and submits the planning application? Do we pay for it or do Plantation Homes? Why is soil testing $1000 and whats with checking the land for mines!

Soil tests should be included in your quote, ours were $600 and done by a guy from down your way.
Mines is just routine here as there was so much gold mining and prospecting between Gympie and Noosa, don't worry about it.
Do a forum search on Plantation Homes!

glittababe Jan 21st 2007 8:42 am

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Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 4307191)
Soil tests should be included in your quote, ours were $600 and done by a guy from down your way.
Mines is just routine here as there was so much gold mining and prospecting between Gympie and Noosa, don't worry about it.
Do a forum search on Plantation Homes!

Interesting that they have had to change their name, Billabong seems quite adament that they're crap, however other posters have had good experiences with them......ummmmmmmm

woody1cruiser Jan 21st 2007 9:22 am

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We were told that all builders are about the same as it depends on the contractors they get at the time.

We got a list of houses that were being built from the sales rep and had a drive round so that we could see several of the houses and then make a choice. Also, you don't get the mortgage lender to release any of the money until you are completely satisfied with the house so if there are problems, they have to get it sorted before they get paid.

Debs


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