accountants, the modl, and visa applications
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accountants, the modl, and visa applications
ANY HELP ON THIS APPRECIATED
1. There are 3 accountants jobs on the sol/modl. If you have your skills assessed for one, say accountant can you then apply for your visa as a say finance manager or do you have to apply for the same job no. as you've been assessed? Jeremy if your reading this I'm sure that you've answered this question to someone before but can I find - of course not.
2. If you have to apply for the same one does anyone know which is best?
3. When do you send off police checks and medicals? Should you wait until they're requested? Or have them done and sent with your visa application?
thanks folks
1. There are 3 accountants jobs on the sol/modl. If you have your skills assessed for one, say accountant can you then apply for your visa as a say finance manager or do you have to apply for the same job no. as you've been assessed? Jeremy if your reading this I'm sure that you've answered this question to someone before but can I find - of course not.
2. If you have to apply for the same one does anyone know which is best?
3. When do you send off police checks and medicals? Should you wait until they're requested? Or have them done and sent with your visa application?
thanks folks
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by swimmingsaintee
3. When do you send off police checks and medicals? Should you wait until they're requested? Or have them done and sent with your visa application?
thanks folks
thanks folks
Gina
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by swimmingsaintee
ANY HELP ON THIS APPRECIATED
1. There are 3 accountants jobs on the sol/modl. If you have your skills assessed for one, say accountant can you then apply for your visa as a say finance manager or do you have to apply for the same job no. as you've been assessed? Jeremy if your reading this I'm sure that you've answered this question to someone before but can I find - of course not.
2. If you have to apply for the same one does anyone know which is best?
3. When do you send off police checks and medicals? Should you wait until they're requested? Or have them done and sent with your visa application?
thanks folks
1. There are 3 accountants jobs on the sol/modl. If you have your skills assessed for one, say accountant can you then apply for your visa as a say finance manager or do you have to apply for the same job no. as you've been assessed? Jeremy if your reading this I'm sure that you've answered this question to someone before but can I find - of course not.
2. If you have to apply for the same one does anyone know which is best?
3. When do you send off police checks and medicals? Should you wait until they're requested? Or have them done and sent with your visa application?
thanks folks
1. If you want the MODL points you must be assessed as an Accountant, 2211-11. Nothing else will do. Read the Skilled Migration Booklet carefully to see what DIMIA say about work experience and which occupation it needs to be in.
2. Criteria for skill assessment are the same for all CPAA/ICAA/NIA assessed occupations. However criteria vary slightly between the three, choose the one which suits best.
3. Normally it's best to wait. Unless you've lived in a country where getting a police check will take ages, if so start that process immediately.
Jeremy
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Thanks folks.
Jeremy I've read the booklet and from what I can gather this is how it goes.
you nominate an occupation which fits your skills. Then if that's a 60 point occupation you provide evidence that you've been in any sol occupation for 12 of previous 18 months. To get points you must then ( if it's a 60 point occupation) provide evidence that you've been in the nominated occupation for 3 of previous 4 years (10 points) and finally you get 15 points for being on the modl.
Whew! so far so good.However I can't find a definition of accountant anywhere. My husband is one but his current role is as senior financial controller. Previously been in corporate finance and prior to that audit. So does his financial controller role still count as being an accountant?
Also the form mentions providing employment references. There's just no way his emplyers could be approached. Do you know Jeremy if a statutory declaration outlining his main tasks and duties and narrating his experience accompanied by evidence of employment(eg wage slips) is acceptable evidence of work experience?
Jeremy I've read the booklet and from what I can gather this is how it goes.
you nominate an occupation which fits your skills. Then if that's a 60 point occupation you provide evidence that you've been in any sol occupation for 12 of previous 18 months. To get points you must then ( if it's a 60 point occupation) provide evidence that you've been in the nominated occupation for 3 of previous 4 years (10 points) and finally you get 15 points for being on the modl.
Whew! so far so good.However I can't find a definition of accountant anywhere. My husband is one but his current role is as senior financial controller. Previously been in corporate finance and prior to that audit. So does his financial controller role still count as being an accountant?
Also the form mentions providing employment references. There's just no way his emplyers could be approached. Do you know Jeremy if a statutory declaration outlining his main tasks and duties and narrating his experience accompanied by evidence of employment(eg wage slips) is acceptable evidence of work experience?
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by swimmingsaintee
Thanks folks.
Jeremy I've read the booklet and from what I can gather this is how it goes.
you nominate an occupation which fits your skills. Then if that's a 60 point occupation you provide evidence that you've been in any sol occupation for 12 of previous 18 months. To get points you must then ( if it's a 60 point occupation) provide evidence that you've been in the nominated occupation for 3 of previous 4 years (10 points) and finally you get 15 points for being on the modl.
Whew! so far so good.However I can't find a definition of accountant anywhere. My husband is one but his current role is as senior financial controller. Previously been in corporate finance and prior to that audit. So does his financial controller role still count as being an accountant?
Also the form mentions providing employment references. There's just no way his emplyers could be approached. Do you know Jeremy if a statutory declaration outlining his main tasks and duties and narrating his experience accompanied by evidence of employment(eg wage slips) is acceptable evidence of work experience?
Jeremy I've read the booklet and from what I can gather this is how it goes.
you nominate an occupation which fits your skills. Then if that's a 60 point occupation you provide evidence that you've been in any sol occupation for 12 of previous 18 months. To get points you must then ( if it's a 60 point occupation) provide evidence that you've been in the nominated occupation for 3 of previous 4 years (10 points) and finally you get 15 points for being on the modl.
Whew! so far so good.However I can't find a definition of accountant anywhere. My husband is one but his current role is as senior financial controller. Previously been in corporate finance and prior to that audit. So does his financial controller role still count as being an accountant?
Also the form mentions providing employment references. There's just no way his emplyers could be approached. Do you know Jeremy if a statutory declaration outlining his main tasks and duties and narrating his experience accompanied by evidence of employment(eg wage slips) is acceptable evidence of work experience?
As an aside, we did not front load our Meds/PCC's for the reason stated above, we have house to sell, so need time to get things in order bewteen visa grant and first entry date.
Good luck with your application.
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by sonictigger
Although our visa isn't through yet, my last position before applying was as a Group Financial Controller, and I have applied using 2211-11 Accountant. My agent said that it was pretty much a given that a GFC had to be an accountant and it was only a job title as apposed to job description, which went into details surrounding the role, which included accounting duties.
As an aside, we did not front load our Meds/PCC's for the reason stated above, we have house to sell, so need time to get things in order bewteen visa grant and first entry date.
Good luck with your application.
As an aside, we did not front load our Meds/PCC's for the reason stated above, we have house to sell, so need time to get things in order bewteen visa grant and first entry date.
Good luck with your application.
Did you provide employers references with your application?
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by swimmingsaintee
Thanks sonictigger.
Did you provide employers references with your application?
Did you provide employers references with your application?
Try saying you are just looking at various options and a reference would enable a clearer picture from an agent. If they do say anything about leaving, say that the process takes a minumum of 2 years....they are not to know, plus depending on your circumstances, you don't always have to move straight over.
I'm sure you need a detailed job reference, don't think a statement will do.
Hope this helps you.
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thanks for that - unfortunately there's just no way we can approach employers. If they thought he was even considering going then end of career there. I'm sure this must have cropped up before. Any ideas anybody?
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by swimmingsaintee
thanks for that - unfortunately there's just no way we can approach employers. If they thought he was even considering going then end of career there. I'm sure this must have cropped up before. Any ideas anybody?
Another option I've seen, it lying and saying it's for a mortgage application etc.
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by sonictigger
At the last count, I'm sure you can not sack someone for thinking about leaving
Another option I've seen, it lying and saying it's for a mortgage application etc.
Another option I've seen, it lying and saying it's for a mortgage application etc.
Seriously though his employers are not daft. No they can't sack him but he definitely wont be promoted any further. Which is important to him as he hasn't decided finally if he's actually going to go.
So I guess we'll just have to try stat decs - I really think that someone else must have encountered this problem before or are my husband's employers the only unreasonable ones in the UK?
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by swimmingsaintee
As an upstanding lawyer I cannot countanance lying ( oh really - hey if it gets me to Aus I'm in!!)
Seriously though his employers are not daft. No they can't sack him but he definitely wont be promoted any further. Which is important to him as he hasn't decided finally if he's actually going to go.
So I guess we'll just have to try stat decs - I really think that someone else must have encountered this problem before or are my husband's employers the only unreasonable ones in the UK?
Seriously though his employers are not daft. No they can't sack him but he definitely wont be promoted any further. Which is important to him as he hasn't decided finally if he's actually going to go.
So I guess we'll just have to try stat decs - I really think that someone else must have encountered this problem before or are my husband's employers the only unreasonable ones in the UK?
As for a Lawyer & Accountant in one house..... :scared:
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by sonictigger
Try posting your question on the Immigration forum, or do a search on Employers Reference....good luck
As for a Lawyer & Accountant in one house..... :scared:
As for a Lawyer & Accountant in one house..... :scared:
Have posted question on the immigration forum. Thanks for the tip and good luck with the move.
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by swimmingsaintee
As an upstanding lawyer I cannot countanance lying ( oh really - hey if it gets me to Aus I'm in!!)
Seriously though his employers are not daft. No they can't sack him but he definitely wont be promoted any further. Which is important to him as he hasn't decided finally if he's actually going to go.
So I guess we'll just have to try stat decs - I really think that someone else must have encountered this problem before or are my husband's employers the only unreasonable ones in the UK?
Seriously though his employers are not daft. No they can't sack him but he definitely wont be promoted any further. Which is important to him as he hasn't decided finally if he's actually going to go.
So I guess we'll just have to try stat decs - I really think that someone else must have encountered this problem before or are my husband's employers the only unreasonable ones in the UK?
If your migration plans don't materialise, and your husband's employer doesn't "forgive" him then he may well need to be prepared to seek employment elsewhere in the UK in due course.
Jeremy
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
1. Re: Definition of accountant: DIMIA use their own definitions for each job listed on the MODL and SOL. They are referred to as ASCO codes and there is a website that has the descriptions. I can't find the url right now, but if you pm me your email address I can email you the page for ASCO code 2111-11 (i.e. accountant).
2. Employer's reference: As sonictigger and Jeremy have already said, DIMIA expect to see an employer's reference. They're thinking along the lines of why would you worry what your employer thinks if you're leaving anyway to emigrate. You can see their point, can't you?
BUT, the employer's reference doesn't *have* to come from your husband's boss. My husband asked an HR person to sign it. Someone else here on the forum asked a colleague to sign his.
Gina
2. Employer's reference: As sonictigger and Jeremy have already said, DIMIA expect to see an employer's reference. They're thinking along the lines of why would you worry what your employer thinks if you're leaving anyway to emigrate. You can see their point, can't you?
BUT, the employer's reference doesn't *have* to come from your husband's boss. My husband asked an HR person to sign it. Someone else here on the forum asked a colleague to sign his.
Gina
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Re: accountants, the modl, and visa applications
Originally Posted by JAJ
Get professional advice (and choose an agent who's experienced in this area - not all are) and be prepared for a difficult time as he or she may well advise you that DIMIA will simply not accept statutory declarations as employment evidence without a lot of other corroborating evidence.
If your migration plans don't materialise, and your husband's employer doesn't "forgive" him then he may well need to be prepared to seek employment elsewhere in the UK in due course.
Jeremy
If your migration plans don't materialise, and your husband's employer doesn't "forgive" him then he may well need to be prepared to seek employment elsewhere in the UK in due course.
Jeremy
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