ABC learning centres
Apr 17th 2005, 2:45 pm
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ABC learning centres
We are looking to enrol our two boys into one of the ABC centres in Brisbane... hopefully we'll find one without too long of a waiting list!!
Does anyone know how much a day they charge..
Many thanks
Does anyone know how much a day they charge..
Many thanks
Apr 17th 2005, 4:14 pm
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Re: ABC learning centres
Hi! I am not sure about how it is in Brisbane, but we were just checking through our relocation agency within the Melbourne area. We had to assume something in the $60/day range. Works out to be pretty costly.
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Hope you find something cheaper??!
/Jørgen
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Hope you find something cheaper??!
/Jørgen
Apr 17th 2005, 5:58 pm
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Re: ABC learning centres
Wow, that does seem quite a lot... but we do pay £32 per day now in the UK..
Are there are subsidies a permanent resident can claim?
thanks again..
Julie
Are there are subsidies a permanent resident can claim?
thanks again..
Julie
Apr 17th 2005, 6:24 pm
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Re: ABC learning centres
Originally Posted by JJJHM
Wow, that does seem quite a lot... but we do pay £32 per day now in the UK..
Are there are subsidies a permanent resident can claim?
thanks again..
Julie
Are there are subsidies a permanent resident can claim?
thanks again..
Julie
Quite frankly; we find ourselves finding a place to live based on the availability of good care for our children!
Right now it seems that we will be heading for Mt Eliza! /Jørgen
Apr 18th 2005, 7:33 am
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Re: ABC learning centres
Hi..
With a PR visa you are entitled to the following subsidies:
1) Family Allowance (not means tested) - A$115 (aprox) every 2 weeks (for us anyway, we have 2 kids under 4 years old)
2) Child Care Allowance (means tested) - check the ATO website for more info.
Cheers
Paul
With a PR visa you are entitled to the following subsidies:
1) Family Allowance (not means tested) - A$115 (aprox) every 2 weeks (for us anyway, we have 2 kids under 4 years old)
2) Child Care Allowance (means tested) - check the ATO website for more info.
Cheers
Paul
Originally Posted by jskogsta
No worries. Not that I know of, but bear in mind that these are private care centers. I do think there are other centers that are subsidised, but when our agent were checking for us there were practically nothing available. Thus we will be forced to go private .. and even those places are scarce!
Quite frankly; we find ourselves finding a place to live based on the availability of good care for our children! Right now it seems that we will be heading for Mt Eliza!
/Jørgen
Quite frankly; we find ourselves finding a place to live based on the availability of good care for our children!
Right now it seems that we will be heading for Mt Eliza! /Jørgen
Apr 18th 2005, 2:55 pm
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Re: ABC learning centres
Originally Posted by Paul and Chloe
Hi..
With a PR visa you are entitled to the following subsidies:
1) Family Allowance (not means tested) - A$115 (aprox) every 2 weeks (for us anyway, we have 2 kids under 4 years old)
2) Child Care Allowance (means tested) - check the ATO website for more info.
Cheers
Paul
With a PR visa you are entitled to the following subsidies:
1) Family Allowance (not means tested) - A$115 (aprox) every 2 weeks (for us anyway, we have 2 kids under 4 years old)
2) Child Care Allowance (means tested) - check the ATO website for more info.
Cheers
Paul
Julie
Apr 18th 2005, 11:55 pm
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Re: ABC learning centres
Some examples of Child Care Benefit: from http://www.centrelink.gov.au/interne...re_benefit.htm
Family with two parents and 1 child between 5 and 13 years:
2 parents, 1 works earning $50,000, the other doesn't work: 76% rebate of schedule fees.
2 parents, 1 earns $50,000, the other $25,000: 41% rebate of schedule fees.
2 parents, both earn $50,000 each: 16% rebate of schedule fees.
The Family Tax Benefit is actually income tested, and some examples are:
Family with 3 children between 5 and 13, Single gross income of $50,000 per year:
Possible Family Assistance of $346.22 per fortnight or $9,026.45 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $266.28 per fortnight.
Family Tax Benefit Part B $79.94 per fortnight.
Family with 3 children between 5 and 13, Joint Income of $75,000. One wage $50,000 2nd wage $25,000
Possible Family Assistance of $128.94 per fortnight or $3,361.65 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $128.94 per fortnight.
Family with one child under 5, Single gross income of $50,000 per year:
Possible Family Assistance of $157.64 per fortnight or $4,109.90 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $42.98 per fortnight.
Family Tax Benefit Part B $114.66 per fortnight.
Family with one child under 5, Joint Income of $75,000. One wage $50,000 2nd wage $25,000
Possible Family Assistance of $42.98 per fortnight or $1,120.55 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $42.98 per fortnight.
http://www.abcdiamond.com.au/info_benefits.htm
Family with two parents and 1 child between 5 and 13 years:
2 parents, 1 works earning $50,000, the other doesn't work: 76% rebate of schedule fees.
2 parents, 1 earns $50,000, the other $25,000: 41% rebate of schedule fees.
2 parents, both earn $50,000 each: 16% rebate of schedule fees.
The Family Tax Benefit is actually income tested, and some examples are:
Family with 3 children between 5 and 13, Single gross income of $50,000 per year:
Possible Family Assistance of $346.22 per fortnight or $9,026.45 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $266.28 per fortnight.
Family Tax Benefit Part B $79.94 per fortnight.
Family with 3 children between 5 and 13, Joint Income of $75,000. One wage $50,000 2nd wage $25,000
Possible Family Assistance of $128.94 per fortnight or $3,361.65 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $128.94 per fortnight.
Family with one child under 5, Single gross income of $50,000 per year:
Possible Family Assistance of $157.64 per fortnight or $4,109.90 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $42.98 per fortnight.
Family Tax Benefit Part B $114.66 per fortnight.
Family with one child under 5, Joint Income of $75,000. One wage $50,000 2nd wage $25,000
Possible Family Assistance of $42.98 per fortnight or $1,120.55 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $42.98 per fortnight.
http://www.abcdiamond.com.au/info_benefits.htm
Apr 19th 2005, 1:19 am
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Re: ABC learning centres
Originally Posted by JJJHM
We are looking to enrol our two boys into one of the ABC centres in Brisbane... hopefully we'll find one without too long of a waiting list!!
Does anyone know how much a day they charge..
Many thanks
Does anyone know how much a day they charge..
Many thanks
09:00 - 15:00 twice a week we pay $86/day
We are on temporary visas
They told us that upon proof of PR, that will go down to $44/day
Andrew
Apr 19th 2005, 3:06 am
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Re: ABC learning centres
Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Some examples of Child Care Benefit: from http://www.centrelink.gov.au/interne...re_benefit.htm
Family with two parents and 1 child between 5 and 13 years:
2 parents, 1 works earning $50,000, the other doesn't work: 76% rebate of schedule fees.
2 parents, 1 earns $50,000, the other $25,000: 41% rebate of schedule fees.
2 parents, both earn $50,000 each: 16% rebate of schedule fees.
The Family Tax Benefit is actually income tested, and some examples are:
Family with 3 children between 5 and 13, Single gross income of $50,000 per year:
Possible Family Assistance of $346.22 per fortnight or $9,026.45 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $266.28 per fortnight.
Family Tax Benefit Part B $79.94 per fortnight.
Family with 3 children between 5 and 13, Joint Income of $75,000. One wage $50,000 2nd wage $25,000
Possible Family Assistance of $128.94 per fortnight or $3,361.65 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $128.94 per fortnight.
Family with one child under 5, Single gross income of $50,000 per year:
Possible Family Assistance of $157.64 per fortnight or $4,109.90 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $42.98 per fortnight.
Family Tax Benefit Part B $114.66 per fortnight.
Family with one child under 5, Joint Income of $75,000. One wage $50,000 2nd wage $25,000
Possible Family Assistance of $42.98 per fortnight or $1,120.55 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $42.98 per fortnight.
http://www.abcdiamond.com.au/info_benefits.htm
Family with two parents and 1 child between 5 and 13 years:
2 parents, 1 works earning $50,000, the other doesn't work: 76% rebate of schedule fees.
2 parents, 1 earns $50,000, the other $25,000: 41% rebate of schedule fees.
2 parents, both earn $50,000 each: 16% rebate of schedule fees.
The Family Tax Benefit is actually income tested, and some examples are:
Family with 3 children between 5 and 13, Single gross income of $50,000 per year:
Possible Family Assistance of $346.22 per fortnight or $9,026.45 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $266.28 per fortnight.
Family Tax Benefit Part B $79.94 per fortnight.
Family with 3 children between 5 and 13, Joint Income of $75,000. One wage $50,000 2nd wage $25,000
Possible Family Assistance of $128.94 per fortnight or $3,361.65 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $128.94 per fortnight.
Family with one child under 5, Single gross income of $50,000 per year:
Possible Family Assistance of $157.64 per fortnight or $4,109.90 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $42.98 per fortnight.
Family Tax Benefit Part B $114.66 per fortnight.
Family with one child under 5, Joint Income of $75,000. One wage $50,000 2nd wage $25,000
Possible Family Assistance of $42.98 per fortnight or $1,120.55 per year.
This is made up of:
Family Tax Benefit Part A $42.98 per fortnight.
http://www.abcdiamond.com.au/info_benefits.htm
Thanks!
/Jørgen Skogstad
Apr 19th 2005, 3:35 am
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Re: ABC learning centres
Depends how many children you have and what their ages are. For example:
2 children under 17, Family Tax Benefit Part A stops at $98940
Regards
Paul
2 children under 17, Family Tax Benefit Part A stops at $98940
Regards
Paul
Originally Posted by jskogsta
But this only applies if the family's gross income is below $88.000, right? In our case one parent gross over $88.000 and the other one $0. If I am not mistaking, we are not elligble for this assistance, right?
Thanks!
/Jørgen Skogstad
Thanks!
/Jørgen Skogstad
Apr 19th 2005, 4:00 am
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Originally Posted by jskogsta
But this only applies if the family's gross income is below $88.000, right? In our case one parent gross over $88.000 and the other one $0. If I am not mistaking, we are not elligble for this assistance, right?
Thanks!
/Jørgen Skogstad
Thanks!
/Jørgen Skogstad
http://www.centrelink.gov.au/interne...ices/index.htm
and select:
Family Assistance
then 3. Estimate Family Assistance (no logon required).
Two examples are:
Possible entitlement with Incomes of $88,000 and NIL, and 1 child under 5
Possible Family Assistance of $114.66 per fortnight or $2989.35 per year.
This is made up of: Family Tax Benefit Part B $114.66 per fortnight.
and Possible Child Care Benefit percentage.
24.01 % for 1 child in approved occasional child care.
...........
Your possible entitlement with Incomes of $88,000 and NIL, and 1 child 16 to 18
Possible Family Assistance of $79.94 per fortnight or $2084.15 per year.
This is made up of:Family Tax Benefit Part B $79.94 per fortnight.
The Family Tax Benefit comes in 2 parts: Part A and Part B
With FBT-B the income test is based on the lower earner ONLY, and does NOT take account of the higher earners income.
eg: 1 person can earn $250,000 and the other $4,000 py, and FBT-B is still available.
But if the lower earners income goes above $14,421 a year and the youngest child is between 5 and 18, then No FBT-B is available.
Apr 19th 2005, 4:37 am
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Re: ABC learning centres
Originally Posted by andrew63
Our youngest, 4 next week, goes to one of the ABCs locally and it is fantastic!
09:00 - 15:00 twice a week we pay $86/day
We are on temporary visas
They told us that upon proof of PR, that will go down to $44/day
Andrew
09:00 - 15:00 twice a week we pay $86/day
We are on temporary visas
They told us that upon proof of PR, that will go down to $44/day
Andrew
I really cannot believe the same company can justify $86 a day for anybody in Queensland given the relative wage expectations of QLD in comparison to Sydney.
As we are just PR we have yet to receive a Centrelink rebate, but we'd be looking at the minimum 16% given our wages.
Apr 19th 2005, 5:46 am
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Re: ABC learning centres
Originally Posted by RichS
Crikey - they really are rorting you big time my friend. We pay $60 per day in Sydney for a 3 year old. We paid exactly the same when we were on a 457 ...with exactly the same ABC company. Our hours are 0800-1800.
I really cannot believe the same company can justify $86 a day for anybody in Queensland given the relative wage expectations of QLD in comparison to Sydney.
As we are just PR we have yet to receive a Centrelink rebate, but we'd be looking at the minimum 16% given our wages.
I really cannot believe the same company can justify $86 a day for anybody in Queensland given the relative wage expectations of QLD in comparison to Sydney.
As we are just PR we have yet to receive a Centrelink rebate, but we'd be looking at the minimum 16% given our wages.
I wonder if they are franchises with cart blanche to charge what they like or if there are rules about this somewhere.
I wil go back to them and mention that ABCs in Sydney make no additional charges to temps and see how far I get.
Nevertheless, still a great place.
Andrew
Apr 19th 2005, 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by andrew63
Certainly feels that way!
I wonder if they are franchises with cart blanche to charge what they like or if there are rules about this somewhere.
I wil go back to them and mention that ABCs in Sydney make no additional charges to temps and see how far I get.
Nevertheless, still a great place.
Andrew
I wonder if they are franchises with cart blanche to charge what they like or if there are rules about this somewhere.
I wil go back to them and mention that ABCs in Sydney make no additional charges to temps and see how far I get.
Nevertheless, still a great place.
Andrew
I just emailed our local one, (ABC Learning Centre) with this question:
Q: What are your centre charges for childcare, for aged 3. I'm not certain on all requirements, but an idea of your daily charges would be useful, if possible.
A: Hi there, our full fee for a 3yr old child is approx. $41 per day.
The main national web site says the cost is from $6 per day after benefits.
The maximum benefit is "Normally" about 85%, therefore that calculates the full fee at about $40.
They do seem to be ripping you off, i'd be checking it.
Last edited by ABCDiamond; Apr 19th 2005 at 6:41 am. Reason: added (ABC Learning Centre)
Apr 19th 2005, 6:28 am
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Re: ABC learning centres
Our 7 month old goes to Birkdale daycare (Brisbane Bayside) $48 per day then we get a centrelink rebate taking it down to around $37.
He loves it and I love the break !
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He loves it and I love the break !
V