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Old Oct 6th 2006, 11:49 am
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

Originally Posted by dotnron
If your OH has a written job offer, then why not send a copy of it to ASPC? When our applications were in the early stages, both Hub and I were offered jobs in Perth. We sent the written offers in with our PCC's. Don't know if it helped to speed things up at all, but we figured it couldn't hurt, either. You're already 3 months into a 136 application, so if it were me, I would wait for that one.
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nothing in writing but if they are that keen they should do that so i will ask them.
may be a test of how sincere they are!
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Originally Posted by Bix
You can have more than one visa application lodged at the same time but remember the last visa granted by DIMIA cancels all previous ones. You therefore need to be sure the 457 is granted before the 136 otherwise you downgrade a PR to a Temp visa.
Or you immediately withdraw the 457 application. But people with two visa applications in the system have had problems before when they could't withdraw the temporary visa application in time and found their PR visa cancelled.
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

As a previous poster stated....go on a 457 initially and keep 136 application going. As long as you discuss with DIMIA there isn't an issue.

We came over with my work on a 457 in the February and our full PR application was still being processed, we got that granted in the December and left Aus to get them validated in April of the next year.

A minor point a 136 off shore application once granted means you need to leave Aus to get the visa granted. Another option - if your 457 employer really wants you, once he gets you over get him to apply for a ENS visa straight away.

Hope it all goes well for you.

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we are now thinking of just Mr W going over on a 457 and me and the kids stopping here getting everything sorted, then when 136 granted Mr W coming back and all going into Oz together.
another point i was wondering about is the medicals would we need to have a medical for each visa or can one set of medicals be linked to both visas?
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

Originally Posted by thewoodz
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we are now thinking of just Mr W going over on a 457 and me and the kids stopping here getting everything sorted, then when 136 granted Mr W coming back and all going into Oz together.
another point i was wondering about is the medicals would we need to have a medical for each visa or can one set of medicals be linked to both visas?

I think that you only need an x-ray for a 457 (?)

I'd suggest getting the full ones done then they would do for both.
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Had to read that about three times then!!!
Is this really the case? No medical? Why(not)?




Originally Posted by Wendy
I think that you only need an x-ray for a 457 (?)

I'd suggest getting the full ones done then they would do for both.
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

Originally Posted by mooncat

Had to read that about three times then!!!
Is this really the case? No medical? Why(not)?
we just had x-rays for our 457.
one of the terms of a 457 is that your employer is responsible for your healthcare.
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

Originally Posted by ianandhelena
one of the terms of a 457 is that your employer is responsible for your healthcare.
Judging by posts on this forum, only a minority of employers provide proper health coverage for their 457 employees.
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Originally Posted by JAJ
Judging by posts on this forum, only a minority of employers provide proper health coverage for their 457 employees.
i agree-our employer isn't interested.
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

Hi,
Is there some sort of guideline on what they are 'responsible' for and what you're covered by (if anything)
It was quite a surprise reading that and I think it's a bit odd considering most other people have what seems to me to be quite thorough health screening. Also the cost issue ie why should others have to fork out £500+ but 457'ers don't.
I am looking at a 457 by the way but still think it's a bit odd!


Originally Posted by ianandhelena
we just had x-rays for our 457.
one of the terms of a 457 is that your employer is responsible for your healthcare.
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

Originally Posted by mooncat
Hi,
Is there some sort of guideline on what they are 'responsible' for and what you're covered by (if anything)
It was quite a surprise reading that and I think it's a bit odd considering most other people have what seems to me to be quite thorough health screening. Also the cost issue ie why should others have to fork out £500+ but 457'ers don't.
I am looking at a 457 by the way but still think it's a bit odd!
if you come out on a 457 you will eventually go back to whichever country you came from, taking all your long-term health problems with you for your own country's health system to pay for.
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

Originally Posted by ianandhelena
if you come out on a 457 you will eventually go back to whichever country you came from, taking all your long-term health problems with you for your own country's health system to pay for.
That's the sum of it.

However anyone coming over on a 457 that will be in education or health will be required to do medicals as well.
ie students, nurses, teachers.

Anyone converting from 457 to a PR visa will be required to undertake the full works. X-rays, bloods and medical.
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

I think that you only need an x-ray for a 457 (?)

I'd suggest getting the full ones done then they would do for both.
I think i remember reading that if you get x-rays for a 457, they can't be used for the permanent application as they are classified as being for a temporary application. Sure someone posted about how they had to shell out for new x-rays just a few months after getting the 457 ones done.

one of the terms of a 457 is that your employer is responsible for your healthcare.
I think the intention is that your employer is responsible for ensuring you have private healthcare, but not responsible for paying for it. In our case, my partner's employer's HR department hassled us to take out insurance, we saw how much it was going to be, and thankfully as they're pretty incompetent they forgot about it after a while.
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

Ah well that'll be me then as I'm a nurse. Think I'll just wait and go for a 134 anyway. Seems a lot more straight forward!!




Originally Posted by Bix
That's the sum of it.

However anyone coming over on a 457 that will be in education or health will be required to do medicals as well.
ie students, nurses, teachers.

Anyone converting from 457 to a PR visa will be required to undertake the full works. X-rays, bloods and medical.
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Old Oct 8th 2006, 10:09 pm
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Default Re: 457 with work versus 136 no work

We came out on a 457 with the company applying for sponsored PR as soon as the 457 was granted. It worked for us and I know that we wouldn't have come over without the work in place (hubby just wasn't prepared to take the risk as we have 4 kids and his job is very specialised). I would personally seriously consider the temp visa especially if the company are offering help getting registered etc as many people have difficulties with this.
Good luck with what ever you decide.
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