457 the saga goes on
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457 the saga goes on
Ok so about 4 months ago a company offered me 457 sponsorship in Perth.
We agreed and they started the visa process. At this point we still had not spoken about money etc but I figured that time will come. So a month passed and I had not had any contact from the company. I dropped them a mail to see what was happing and was informed they are waiting to here back about the 457. Another month and no contact so I sent another mail. Same story. At this point I have still not filled any forms or sent any info away for the via app.
I waited another month and emailed the guy. In fact I sent 3 emails with no response. So I assumed that they had changed there minds and we made alternative plans. No out of the blue I get an e-mail saying they are still keen to get me over and have hired a new migration agent as the last one was no good.
All very confused about what to do. Do I wait for this company to maybe get things sorted or cut my loses and say they are too late. I have another job lined up that I need to decide about in the next few weeks. Don't really want to let that one go without anything set in stone.
Not a gripe about the visa process as I know some people wait years and we are pretty lucky to have this offer. Just the complete lack of communication and the expectation that I am sitting here ready to go when they finally get their act together.
We agreed and they started the visa process. At this point we still had not spoken about money etc but I figured that time will come. So a month passed and I had not had any contact from the company. I dropped them a mail to see what was happing and was informed they are waiting to here back about the 457. Another month and no contact so I sent another mail. Same story. At this point I have still not filled any forms or sent any info away for the via app.
I waited another month and emailed the guy. In fact I sent 3 emails with no response. So I assumed that they had changed there minds and we made alternative plans. No out of the blue I get an e-mail saying they are still keen to get me over and have hired a new migration agent as the last one was no good.
All very confused about what to do. Do I wait for this company to maybe get things sorted or cut my loses and say they are too late. I have another job lined up that I need to decide about in the next few weeks. Don't really want to let that one go without anything set in stone.
Not a gripe about the visa process as I know some people wait years and we are pretty lucky to have this offer. Just the complete lack of communication and the expectation that I am sitting here ready to go when they finally get their act together.
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Re: 457 the saga goes on
So are you saying that this company is applying for a 457 for you and you still haven't talked financial terms?
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I speak from experience, and I would tend to trust the company that is up front about salary/package/relocation costs etc etc.
If the original company cant come up with those kinds of details, then you will probably find that you will be milked so long as they have you on a temp visa with the risk of having to leave the country if you get laid off or want to leave.
If the original company cant come up with those kinds of details, then you will probably find that you will be milked so long as they have you on a temp visa with the risk of having to leave the country if you get laid off or want to leave.
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When I ask them about contracts etc they keep saying that once the visa process is underway they will talk numbers. Seems daft to me as they are going to pay out money for the process and if we can't agree terms then it is a waste of time.
I am inclined to think the same. Why are they not up front about salary etc. Are they laid back/confident we can sort it out or just planning to back me into a corner. One of the two.
Think I am just going to say unless I get something in writing asap then they can look elsewhere. Don't really want to tell them to get lost and lose a good opportunity but at the same time no point dragging it out if it is going nowhere
I am inclined to think the same. Why are they not up front about salary etc. Are they laid back/confident we can sort it out or just planning to back me into a corner. One of the two.
Think I am just going to say unless I get something in writing asap then they can look elsewhere. Don't really want to tell them to get lost and lose a good opportunity but at the same time no point dragging it out if it is going nowhere
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When I ask them about contracts etc they keep saying that once the visa process is underway they will talk numbers. Seems daft to me as they are going to pay out money for the process and if we can't agree terms then it is a waste of time.
I am inclined to think the same. Why are they not up front about salary etc. Are they laid back/confident we can sort it out or just planning to back me into a corner. One of the two.
Think I am just going to say unless I get something in writing asap then they can look elsewhere. Don't really want to tell them to get lost and lose a good opportunity but at the same time no point dragging it out if it is going nowhere
I am inclined to think the same. Why are they not up front about salary etc. Are they laid back/confident we can sort it out or just planning to back me into a corner. One of the two.
Think I am just going to say unless I get something in writing asap then they can look elsewhere. Don't really want to tell them to get lost and lose a good opportunity but at the same time no point dragging it out if it is going nowhere
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Yeah I think that is what is going to have to happen. Cheers for the info
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Ok so about 4 months ago a company offered me 457 sponsorship in Perth.
We agreed and they started the visa process. At this point we still had not spoken about money etc but I figured that time will come. So a month passed and I had not had any contact from the company. I dropped them a mail to see what was happing and was informed they are waiting to here back about the 457. Another month and no contact so I sent another mail. Same story. At this point I have still not filled any forms or sent any info away for the via app.
I waited another month and emailed the guy. In fact I sent 3 emails with no response. So I assumed that they had changed there minds and we made alternative plans. No out of the blue I get an e-mail saying they are still keen to get me over and have hired a new migration agent as the last one was no good.
All very confused about what to do. Do I wait for this company to maybe get things sorted or cut my loses and say they are too late. I have another job lined up that I need to decide about in the next few weeks. Don't really want to let that one go without anything set in stone.
Not a gripe about the visa process as I know some people wait years and we are pretty lucky to have this offer. Just the complete lack of communication and the expectation that I am sitting here ready to go when they finally get their act together.
We agreed and they started the visa process. At this point we still had not spoken about money etc but I figured that time will come. So a month passed and I had not had any contact from the company. I dropped them a mail to see what was happing and was informed they are waiting to here back about the 457. Another month and no contact so I sent another mail. Same story. At this point I have still not filled any forms or sent any info away for the via app.
I waited another month and emailed the guy. In fact I sent 3 emails with no response. So I assumed that they had changed there minds and we made alternative plans. No out of the blue I get an e-mail saying they are still keen to get me over and have hired a new migration agent as the last one was no good.
All very confused about what to do. Do I wait for this company to maybe get things sorted or cut my loses and say they are too late. I have another job lined up that I need to decide about in the next few weeks. Don't really want to let that one go without anything set in stone.
Not a gripe about the visa process as I know some people wait years and we are pretty lucky to have this offer. Just the complete lack of communication and the expectation that I am sitting here ready to go when they finally get their act together.
Bin it....it will only get painful!
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Is this a construction company by any chance ? If so, can you let me know who it is by PM.
Cheers
Cheers
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No it's an IT company I am afraid. Are you having similar troubles?
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My situation at present is that the company I would be working for are waiting for a 3rd party to sign off the deal. They have talked salary etc with me and also had a draft contract through. I have filled in the relevant forms for the 457 and sent them through to the visa broker. Only waiting for the official contract through once the 3rd party have signed...
If I was you defo give them an ultimatum with regards at least sending you a draft contract offer... otherwise sack em off...
If I was you defo give them an ultimatum with regards at least sending you a draft contract offer... otherwise sack em off...
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My situation at present is that the company I would be working for are waiting for a 3rd party to sign off the deal. They have talked salary etc with me and also had a draft contract through. I have filled in the relevant forms for the 457 and sent them through to the visa broker. Only waiting for the official contract through once the 3rd party have signed...
If I was you defo give them an ultimatum with regards at least sending you a draft contract offer... otherwise sack em off...
If I was you defo give them an ultimatum with regards at least sending you a draft contract offer... otherwise sack em off...
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Re: 457 the saga goes on
Basically the systems integrator is in contract negotations with their client, I would be working for a consultancy firm and subcontracted to work for the systems integrator.
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Re: 457 the saga goes on
It's normal in EPCM work for the client to approve all expenditure, including hires. I had the same issue when I was offered my job. My company made the offer, client approval pending, then the client took two months as he wanted to hold off commencing the project as funding was an issue.
The big difference is that I was made an offer in principle with all the details and numbers.
The big difference is that I was made an offer in principle with all the details and numbers.