Originally Posted by Jensen Healey

Well, that should keep the Muslims out then!

Originally Posted by tableland

My thought is that it is exactly this attitude that is the cause for the increase in the time. People should not go to Australia, pick up the passport, and then bugger off back to wherever. The only reason the majority of them get the passport is because Australia needs their skills in some capacity. What any government is not going to put up with is people using a nation like an exclusive golf club.

Going there purely for the passport shows the same level of indifference towards the nation as getting in as a nurse and then selling surfboards for a living instead of using those nursing skills that got you in. After all, Australia wouldn't let you in if you said you wanted to sell surfboards, etc.

Because of these people's selfish attitude, the government is forced to react. Now the wait is four years, and maybe one day five. What they should also do is make sure people entering the nation due to a specific skill work in that occupation for a minimum of five years. Fair's fair - they're only here because of the skills after all. How does Australia benefit from 5000 British plumbers and nurses working part-time at Australia Post?

Originally Posted by rugbymatt

Whats your problem with Muslims!?

Originally Posted by tableland

. Just the wait to get into Canada is 52 months, then another 36 months for citizenship. 88 months for a Canadian passport from start to finish and probably around 60 for an Australian one.

Originally Posted by tableland

How does Australia benefit from 5000 British plumbers and nurses working part-time at Australia Post?

Originally Posted by JAJ

Is this a rumour or a fact?

Originally Posted by tableland

Blatant, shameless rumour. BUT, there is an abundance of people confessing to "career dumps" upon arrival in Australia on this forum and others. I think it's pretty safe to make the obvious inference - that it is fairly widespread. In many ways I suppose it's a case of "fair enough" - after all, there is no legal requirement to make people work in the field of which there is a shortage (and the sole reason they find themselves in Australia). So in this respect it is Australia's failing. Personally I can't see the problem with making people work in the area they got in on for a certain time period. It can't hurt anyone and how is Australia expected to fill these shortages if not?

Originally Posted by spalen

Blur the edges.... it bloody states that it was increased! Thats what I thought.

Its a bummer I travel a lot, and if you have an aussie passport you can pay 250$ and get a special 'travellers club' thing that lets you go through the same gates/security/etc as the air-crew ;-) ,u can go to china wihtout a visa, go to india etc, its excellent.. its part of a initiative to foster business in asia-pacific. Like in HK you can go thru the local residents gates etc instead of q'ing at the international passports gates. But with a pommie passport - you cant get the club thing becuase obviously UK isnt part of asia.

Originally Posted by Pollyana

I'd love to be forced to work in the field I'm qualified for, but the Aussies don't recognise the qualifications.
Also I - like many others - came on a spouse visa, and am here for a life sentence. Would be nice to feel that the country was trying to make me feel at home, not constantly moving the goalposts.

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

Seeing as the UK already makes people wait for five ******* years (thanks JAJ), I don't see why Australia shouldn't raise the bar a little.



What's the rationale behind the UK's five-year requirement?



Maybe you can think yourself lucky that you're not waiting for citizenship in the UK, where you'd have a five-year wait, plus...



Immigration and Nationality Directorate.

Originally Posted by Pollyana

I'd love to be forced to work in the field I'm qualified for, but the Aussies don't recognise the qualifications.
Also I - like many others - came on a spouse visa, and am here for a life sentence. Would be nice to feel that the country was trying to make me feel at home, not constantly moving the goalposts.

Originally Posted by tableland

I can see why they do this (they want a stress-free life as opposed to what they left behind in the UK), and fair enough I suppose, but how does Australia gain from this? If nurses and accountants get jobs delivering the post or opening new-age tat boutiques on the beach this is a major loophole in the immigration process and doesn't help Australia's skills shortage at all.

Originally Posted by tableland

I know this is a problem as well. I suppose in an operation as large as a nation's immigration, there are always going to be problems. Genrally it works very well and Australia's is much more efficient than Canada's.

But I can't see how Australia gains when it accepts people's applications on the basis of their skills and then they go to work in another occupation. Many on here have stated that they have specialist skills (that they used to get their visas) but instead of using them they want to get jobs (or already have jobs) as postmen, etc.

I can see why they do this (they want a stress-free life as opposed to what they left behind in the UK), and fair enough I suppose, but how does Australia gain from this? If nurses and accountants get jobs delivering the post or opening new-age tat boutiques on the beach this is a major loophole in the immigration process and doesn't help Australia's skills shortage at all.

Originally Posted by mad.chef

5 years for citizenship in the uk . hahaha you dont need to apply for that . just walk in and you will get a house and doll money for free. thats what happens now .doors are open for all