lynnj

Thanks BB

The way things are going just now i'll be driving a daewoo, any news on the house yet?

Lynn

sundarize

You're the expert on this matter - no doubt. Without as much experience, I agree with your view. I had a Discovery a couple of years ago and it was the most unreliable car I've ever had. I'm not slagging Landrovers off for the sake of it, as I really have a soft spot for them, but it is a sad fact that they are not as reliable as the Landcruiser / Partol.

After a spell with a Ford Ranger pickup, which was faultless, I now have a Nissan Navara pickup which is faultless and also comfy and fun to drive.

The thing that makes my blood boil is BMW though. They raped Landrover for the HDC technology and did nothing for the brand. Their X5 is their bastard child from this unhappy marriage. Landrover are better off with Ford.

On Top Gear a few weeks ago, Clarkson tested the lot on a slimy slope (typical English off road conditions). Which was the worst? The BMW - it practically failed to move - flailed around like some Teutonic Tart!

Landcruiser was not much better, The new Range Rover was impressive, but which was the King of Traction? a 1949 Series 1 80 inch.

Those were, indeed, the days!

Amazulu

I looked at the X-Trail & it is very nice, the interior is not as nice as the RAV4 (the central imstrument panel would take some getting used to) but it is more spacious, the way the rear seats fold down is ingenious & it has a proper tailgate. It's more of a real 4x4 than the RAV4, but not as good on the road. The only reason I didn't get one was availability, it was going to be 3 months, so I went for the RAV4.

Wolfen

Folks,

Thanks for the entertaining info that all have given .... Changed my mind a couple of times but I think we`ve finally settled on the Landcruiser.

Cheers
Wolfen

NinaU

Hi all,
Do you know what the price range for a landcruiser in Aus is (cost, taxes, insurance, registration = final cost) ? Also is it better to buy second hand or new?

Thanks
Nina

chippy

And what can this powerfull 4 x 4 do off road......?

chippy

Come on somebody...which is better the V8 or the Td landcruiser ?

Bed Of Roses

Any Jap 4X4

Try the full size Navara 5 seats clime control for all massive grd clearance, auto box 4.6 tdi or bigger petrols, and room enough for an 8x4 sheet of ply cant be bad. Oh and a canopy and itl even keep the old dogs warm when it rains??

Get one of these for the sheila and the boys get a nissan skyline for fun.

Happy motoring try the road from Caiguna to Balladonia she how fast she can GO!!!!!! (good for the girls 150 k of straight and i mean straight road) Even your land cruiser could cope :scared:

r.bartlett

basically that's a question only your wallet can answer
both are good solid engines the td will go on forever -but needs reg oil changes etc
the v8 is a good motor (is it the same as the lexus?? i seem to think so...) less servicing but bigger bills..


however-

my mates amazon td got around 25-30 mpg
the v8 is roughly 1/2..

you pays yer money ...

cheers

richard

jarv

Pretty much what every other 4x4 does ....... never go off-road

owieb

Only for those with no sense of adventure and buy one because they want to feel safe!

If you want to feel safe on the roads of Perth, buy a tank and shoot the hoons off the street before they get to you!

deedee

The Land Cruiser diesel is a gem of and engine,the six cylinder is better than the V8 petrol,its got more torque and is more fuel efficient.Make sure you get a turbo one though as the normally asperated 6 cylinder diesels are very underpowered.The 12 valve ones (earlier models) are also not as fuel efficient as the later,post 96 24valve models.There are really only 3 models of the Land Cruiser,the 100 series,which is a 6 cylinder non turbo,live front axle,proper off road outback vehicle a la UN spec.....or the 100 series VX which is turbo'd,and has independant front end,more comfortable suspension!Also has a few goodies.Then there is the 100 series VX Limited which has all the toys and leather for the towny to off road in a suit These are called Amazon's in the UK,everywhere else they are called 100 series.
All the older post 96 Land Cruisers are live axled and have a choppier ride but they really are nearly bomb proof.A friend here has a 95 one thats done 500,000kms and has had nothing but routine service....never had any rebuild of any componants yet.If you get one of these stuck you will have probably got any other 4 wheeled vehicle stuck too.

A brand new 100 series VX TDI will cost with discount,78 ish,kNZ$ and 120NZ$ every 7500kms for service.There was one in town for sale today,1996,160,000kms,VX Limited,good condition,26,000NZ$

chippy

A very informative post which I thank you for, although I'm a bit dissapointed cos I would have liked a V8. Common sense dictates the Td it would seem.

dmf

After a week of test driving various cars we bought a Toyota Prado GXL. It is a 4lt v6, petrol, so it only does about 20 to the gallon. The petrol only needs to be serviced every 10K kilometres whereas the diesel needs to be serviced every 5k kilometres. Therefore what you would save on fuel costs you would pay out on service costs. We bought the car new and paid a little bit more to get a 6 year warranty for peace of mind. Second hand cars hold their value here - on the forecourt at the garage there was the same car secondhand for more than we managed to negotiate brand new!

chippy

How is this possible? Is there a shortage of new cars or something?