1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
#16
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Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
I'd even go so far as to say *not speeding* causes lots of accidents as drivers who would otherwise concentrate on what they are doing will quite happily multitask at slower speeds and concentrate unreasonably on distrations like conversation, that song on the radio, stopping the kids from fighting in the back, that hot girl at the bus stop, wasn't there something I needed to get from the shops on the way home? did I remember to download the lastest episode of True Blood? oh CRAP theres a split head squashed on my windscreen (good job I wasnt speeding or I'd be in trouble now)!!!!
(I've had plenty of problems with inattentive drivers do things to risk my life on the roadand I frequently take evasive action for my own safety from drivers doing legals speeds - I've almost NEVER felt threatened by someone exceeding the speed limit)
(I've had plenty of problems with inattentive drivers do things to risk my life on the roadand I frequently take evasive action for my own safety from drivers doing legals speeds - I've almost NEVER felt threatened by someone exceeding the speed limit)
Last edited by DadAgain; Jul 26th 2010 at 3:52 am.
#17
Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
Speed rarely *causes* an accident (not talking about hooning at 150 in a 50 limit): it obviously increases the injury/death result of an accident.
The RTA is such an unaccountable mafia that common sense plays no part in the road rules enforcement here. Whatever you say about the UK or US police, they do use their discretion when it's justified.
The RTA is such an unaccountable mafia that common sense plays no part in the road rules enforcement here. Whatever you say about the UK or US police, they do use their discretion when it's justified.
Common sense is illegal apparently!!!
#18
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Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
I got my first ever speeding fine in March been driving 19 years. Gutted they are so much more keen over here and its so hard when the signs are constantly changing.
Got to be so careful in school holidays here in QLD as they double the points too.
The law is the law and I am now much more careful driving below the limit to ensure I dont get anymore points or fines
Jo
Got to be so careful in school holidays here in QLD as they double the points too.
The law is the law and I am now much more careful driving below the limit to ensure I dont get anymore points or fines
Jo
#19
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Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
Hence when I got pulled up doing 111kmh in a 100kmh at Easter in NSW I thought I was going to get 6 points (>10kmh over + '2for1multibuy'). Turns out the points were allocated by QLD so I got 1 point (<13kmh over - no holiday special offers). (still cost me $200 )
#20
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Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
Work shipped us back to Aberdeen a few years ago and I took the Porsche with us, I was only there for 2 years but out of 12 years of ownership of the car that was the best time. Single lane back roads on a summers night, even at 60 - 70 MPH it was great.
#21
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Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
Some of you might like to compare the construction and use (motor vehicles) regulations of the UK and Australia regarding speedometer accuracy. This applies to Australian vehicles pre 2006. Since then, the regulations are the same in both countries.
As simply as I can: United Kingdom vehicle construction and use regulations require a vehicle speedometer accuracy to be in the range of -0->+10%. The implications are that it must never under-read - for obvious reasons - but may over-read. As the cost of manufacturing a speedometer with -0% error would be very costly they all over-read by a few percent without exception.
So in other words, if your speedo in the UK shows 60 mph, that should be the maximum speed that you are doing though you may be going as slowly as 54 mph. These regs have been in place since 1988 in the UK.
However, here in dear old Stralia - at least in Victoria, this level of accuracy has only been in the regs since 2006. Prior to that, your speedo when showing 100 kph, could mean that you are actually doing 104 kph. (Plus 4% was allowable until 2006).
Other states may well be different but just bear in mind that in an older car here, you may well be doing more than your indicated speed.
Bearing in mind that there is almost zero tolerance on speeding now - I know someone in Vic who was done for 103 kph, you may want to read the rest of it here.
The regs and legal advice relate to Victoria ONLY.
For more info, please read here.
http://www.trafficlaw.com.au/speedos.html
As simply as I can: United Kingdom vehicle construction and use regulations require a vehicle speedometer accuracy to be in the range of -0->+10%. The implications are that it must never under-read - for obvious reasons - but may over-read. As the cost of manufacturing a speedometer with -0% error would be very costly they all over-read by a few percent without exception.
So in other words, if your speedo in the UK shows 60 mph, that should be the maximum speed that you are doing though you may be going as slowly as 54 mph. These regs have been in place since 1988 in the UK.
However, here in dear old Stralia - at least in Victoria, this level of accuracy has only been in the regs since 2006. Prior to that, your speedo when showing 100 kph, could mean that you are actually doing 104 kph. (Plus 4% was allowable until 2006).
Other states may well be different but just bear in mind that in an older car here, you may well be doing more than your indicated speed.
Bearing in mind that there is almost zero tolerance on speeding now - I know someone in Vic who was done for 103 kph, you may want to read the rest of it here.
The regs and legal advice relate to Victoria ONLY.
For more info, please read here.
http://www.trafficlaw.com.au/speedos.html
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Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
Speed rarely *causes* an accident (not talking about hooning at 150 in a 50 limit): it obviously increases the injury/death result of an accident.
The RTA is such an unaccountable mafia that common sense plays no part in the road rules enforcement here. Whatever you say about the UK or US police, they do use their discretion when it's justified.
The RTA is such an unaccountable mafia that common sense plays no part in the road rules enforcement here. Whatever you say about the UK or US police, they do use their discretion when it's justified.
Personally, NSW police were good to me when I had been here a week.
My wife got off about a year ago after pleading an excuse. She did mention she was married to a CFA firefighter and that there had been pressures over bushfires relating to her predicament.
#23
Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
Some of you might like to compare the construction and use (motor vehicles) regulations of the UK and Australia regarding speedometer accuracy. This applies to Australian vehicles pre 2006. Since then, the regulations are the same in both countries.
As simply as I can: United Kingdom vehicle construction and use regulations require a vehicle speedometer accuracy to be in the range of -0->+10%. The implications are that it must never under-read - for obvious reasons - but may over-read. As the cost of manufacturing a speedometer with -0% error would be very costly they all over-read by a few percent without exception.
So in other words, if your speedo in the UK shows 60 mph, that should be the maximum speed that you are doing though you may be going as slowly as 54 mph. These regs have been in place since 1988 in the UK.
However, here in dear old Stralia - at least in Victoria, this level of accuracy has only been in the regs since 2006. Prior to that, your speedo when showing 100 kph, could mean that you are actually doing 104 kph. (Plus 4% was allowable until 2006).
Other states may well be different but just bear in mind that in an older car here, you may well be doing more than your indicated speed.
Bearing in mind that there is almost zero tolerance on speeding now - I know someone in Vic who was done for 103 kph, you may want to read the rest of it here.
The regs and legal advice relate to Victoria ONLY.
For more info, please read here.
http://www.trafficlaw.com.au/speedos.html
As simply as I can: United Kingdom vehicle construction and use regulations require a vehicle speedometer accuracy to be in the range of -0->+10%. The implications are that it must never under-read - for obvious reasons - but may over-read. As the cost of manufacturing a speedometer with -0% error would be very costly they all over-read by a few percent without exception.
So in other words, if your speedo in the UK shows 60 mph, that should be the maximum speed that you are doing though you may be going as slowly as 54 mph. These regs have been in place since 1988 in the UK.
However, here in dear old Stralia - at least in Victoria, this level of accuracy has only been in the regs since 2006. Prior to that, your speedo when showing 100 kph, could mean that you are actually doing 104 kph. (Plus 4% was allowable until 2006).
Other states may well be different but just bear in mind that in an older car here, you may well be doing more than your indicated speed.
Bearing in mind that there is almost zero tolerance on speeding now - I know someone in Vic who was done for 103 kph, you may want to read the rest of it here.
The regs and legal advice relate to Victoria ONLY.
For more info, please read here.
http://www.trafficlaw.com.au/speedos.html
UK ones are mostly 4mph under the speedo reading.
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Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
#25
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Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
My car is 2kph under at 100 or 110. But I've noticed the margin gets bigger at lower speeds. I reckon it's 4kph lower at 40kph.
#26
Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
On my car the margin gets slightly bigger the faster I go and drops off to no error below 20mph.
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Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
I think that's a NSW thing. I've seen them there but not in Vic. However Vic does have a few electronic thingies (that are not speed cameras) that tell you how fast they think you're going. There's one on the Hume just south of the border.
#29
Re: 1st Speeding Fine in 12 years
Me and Mrs LL spent the night in Fremantle for a wedding reception, to make the event a wee bit better we went in the Porsche, with the top down.
Driving home today on Roe Highway I got zapped at (I think) 87Km in an 80Km zone. Couldn't believe it as the speed signs were so confusing I thought I was still in a 100Km zone. I understand in WA the speeding convictions can take months to come through, but if this one does I'll be mightily p*ssed off.
Driving home today on Roe Highway I got zapped at (I think) 87Km in an 80Km zone. Couldn't believe it as the speed signs were so confusing I thought I was still in a 100Km zone. I understand in WA the speeding convictions can take months to come through, but if this one does I'll be mightily p*ssed off.
I only ever got a camera offence twice in the Uk. The cops if they stop you in UK usually let you off.
Here in SA the speed limits and tolerances are a lot slower and the traffic cops are total ar$eh*les I've been done 6 times in 6 years. It makes it difficult to get around in a hurray. I was in UK two weeks ago and hired a car and shat myself the traffic was so fast!