Don

Yeah, right.

Eg the most strongly socialist EU country of Sweden? Also very capitalist.

Deepest Africa?

Are you suggesting China? Going to be the most capitalist of the lot, judging by Taiwan and HK.

Maybe you were thinking of NZ, heading towards some kind of pseudo-communism in terms of PC-ness but Clarkie's for the chop, methinks.

bondipom

The Northern European systems are often incorrectly defined as socialist. The dominant parties are normally the "Christian Democrats". These parties are generally centrist.

What is different is the ownership structure and management style in these economies. The boards often involve all the stakeholders including banks and often trade union representatives.

A feature of these economies is a strong safety net and social security system.

Socialism is something totally different.

Megalania

Nation of vegetarian crofters.

Approx 12,000,000 hectares of arable land in England & Wales.
12M ha x 10K m^2 / ha = 120G m^2.

120G m^2 / 60M people = 2,000 m^2 / person.

(4 people / family) x (2,000 m^2 / person) = 8,000 m^2 / family.

Make sure you maintain strictest family planning.

OzTennis

You'll have to re-do your sums Megs were 58,789,194 people in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland in 1991.

OzTennis

Megalania

Just remember: I warned you about family planning. See what happens. One little slip and you'll all be chasing each other for dinner.

The British Mfecane

"My masters, you see that the world is collapsing. We shall be eaten up one by one. Our fathers taught us 'khotso ke nala' ('peace means prosperity'), but today there is no peace, no prosperity. Let us march ... to find some land where we can live in peace!"

"The Mfecane produced the Difaqane. The Basotho were pushed into the mountains where they were harassed by cannibals. Forced off their lands, Nguni and Tswana peoples collided with the Voortrekkers moving north. The Xhosa expanded into Khoikhoi lands. Some Khoikhoi retreated into the Kalahari Desert. Others were killed or enslaved by the Voortrekkers. Meanwhile, refugees from various Nguni and Sotho groups formed a new tribe, the Mfengu, whose name means 'beggar' in iziXhosa."

jib

The ancient Greeks experienced their own Mfecane. About 1200 BCE, disaster engulfed the eastern Mediterranean throwing the area into turmoil. Various historians believe that widespread drought, invasion of the Dorians from the north, the long Trojan War, and predications of the Sea Peoples combined to create the ensuing chaos. Large city states collapsed when Greeks abandoned them. In place of the cities were tiny villages of twenty people, usually shepherds and subsistence farmers.




jib

Don

It's a bit of a shame the whole goddamn world isn't just Europe, Europe and more Europe.

But on the other hand it's a bit wonderful, too.