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Old Feb 24th 2009, 8:57 am
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Default 176 VISA - Question regarding Government jobs

We are currently in the process of applying for the 176 Visa - Skiled Sponsored Visa for ACT.

We are getting mixed stories on jobs in Canberra as most are government based positions which are for Australian Citizens..... would the above visa allow us to apply and be employed for such jobs?

My backround is as I.T Mgr.

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Default Re: 176 VISA - Question regarding Government jobs

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We are currently in the process of applying for the 176 Visa - Skiled Sponsored Visa for ACT.

We are getting mixed stories on jobs in Canberra as most are government based positions which are for Australian Citizens..... would the above visa allow us to apply and be employed for such jobs?

My backround is as I.T Mgr.

Cheers
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No. If the job is Commonwealth gov't then you would more than likely need either citizenship or eligibility for citizenship, which is currently 4 years of residence. The 176 is a permanent resident visa.
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Default Re: 176 VISA - Question regarding Government jobs

Okay throws another light on it...... maybe it was wishful thinking regarding Canberra
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I'd be interested to know if this also applies to jobs with the regional governments? (specifically QLD) I'll be over on a 175 visa (if all goes well!)
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I'd be interested to know if this also applies to jobs with the regional governments? (specifically QLD) I'll be over on a 175 visa (if all goes well!)
Qld Govt will employ people in permanent positions as long as they are PR or citizens, so you'd be OK there. Temp visa holders can only hold temp positions. There are a few jobs which require citizenship but they are very rare.

Other States have their own rules.
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Default Re: 176 VISA - Question regarding Government jobs

I am on a 175 visa...and had the same question regarding a Federal police job...so phoned the head of the department I wanted to apply for. He told me that there are some jobs that are only open to citizens because of security (??)..but that for skilled roles which they may struggle to find a suitable candidate they would accept applications from residents. However, the HR department refused to accept my application!!!!

So I went back to the dept manager and he eventually offered me a temporary position, with view to moving to permanent at a later date.

So moral of the story is, that some positions may be advertised as Citizens only but it I would advise to speak directly to the person recruiting.

Hope this helps
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Default Re: 176 VISA - Question regarding Government jobs

Helsbells thanks for that.

Mixed stories are coming in thick and fast.... but it's not putting us off.... we are going to go for it and see what happens!

Thanks for everyones helps!
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Helsbells thanks for that.

Mixed stories are coming in thick and fast.... but it's not putting us off.... we are going to go for it and see what happens!

Thanks for everyones helps!
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There is no absolute requirement for Australian citizenship.
However, there is a general expectation that a person who is to be engaged as an Australian Public Service (APS) employee will be an Australian citizen, although non-citizens can be engaged in certain circumstances.

Like a number of other countries, the Australian Government considers that it is appropriate for government employees to be Australian citizens as a demonstration of their commitment to, and long-term stake in, the future of Australia.

Section 22(8) of the PS Act requires an agency head not to engage, as an APS employee, a person who is not an Australian citizen unless the agency head considers it appropriate to do so.
Federal Government Positions:
www.apsc.gov.au/publications04/conditions6.htm
 
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Qld Govt will employ people in permanent positions as long as they are PR or citizens, so you'd be OK there. Temp visa holders can only hold temp positions. There are a few jobs which require citizenship but they are very rare.

Other States have their own rules.
Thanks for that Polly. Now all I need is the visa then I can get applying for jobs!
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Originally Posted by cookiestar
Thanks for that Polly. Now all I need is the visa then I can get applying for jobs!
You might already have this, but www.jobs.qld.gov.au is the best site for you to start job-hunting
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Default Re: 176 VISA - Question regarding Government jobs

Originally Posted by Pollyana
Qld Govt will employ people in permanent positions as long as they are PR or citizens, so you'd be OK there. Temp visa holders can only hold temp positions. There are a few jobs which require citizenship but they are very rare.

Other States have their own rules.
Anyone know what the situation is in relation to WA government- and also is it reasonable to assume that there are at least as many non Commonwealth government jobs as there are Commonwealth jobs in WA. Thanks
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There is no absolute requirement for Australian citizenship.
However, there is a general expectation that a person who is to be engaged as an Australian Public Service (APS) employee will be an Australian citizen, although non-citizens can be engaged in certain circumstances.
So... there is no requirement but you can forget it if you don't have citizenship. I can see the hairs being split from here.
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Anyone know what the situation is in relation to WA government- and also is it reasonable to assume that there are at least as many non Commonwealth government jobs as there are Commonwealth jobs in WA. Thanks
State governments are able to employ non citizens, and they even employ some people on temp visas.

My guess is that the States will have more employees in their State, than the Commonwealth would have in that State.
 
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Anyone know what the situation is in relation to WA government- and also is it reasonable to assume that there are at least as many non Commonwealth government jobs as there are Commonwealth jobs in WA. Thanks
Have a look here for WA State Govt jobs.
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