1.93's A$ to the Pound!!!
#859

I disagree again.
Prices did NOT fall between 1990 and 1996. They increased = Sold for more money than was paid.
The "real price index" however did decrease.
But this figure, which is not a price, is obtained by dividing the point figure of the nominal price index with the point figure of the Consumer Price Index of the corresponding time period and base year.
It is very important to talk about the right subject. Apples and Oranges.
However, if you want to work on the "Real house price index" for property, then you also have to accept that property prices have hardly risen in decades... eg:
1990 to 2009
Melbourne has risen at an average of only 1.23% per annum for each of the last 19 years.
Sydney though has risen by a massive 2.5% per year for those 19 years.
Prices did NOT fall between 1990 and 1996. They increased = Sold for more money than was paid.
The "real price index" however did decrease.
But this figure, which is not a price, is obtained by dividing the point figure of the nominal price index with the point figure of the Consumer Price Index of the corresponding time period and base year.
It is very important to talk about the right subject. Apples and Oranges.
However, if you want to work on the "Real house price index" for property, then you also have to accept that property prices have hardly risen in decades... eg:
1990 to 2009
Melbourne has risen at an average of only 1.23% per annum for each of the last 19 years.
Sydney though has risen by a massive 2.5% per year for those 19 years.
Wages growth there hasnt even doubled for my industry ,so i guess that house now is more expensive in real percentage terms compared to income then it was when i bought it .
The first house we bought here was a total disaster it was 75000 dollars and we escaped stamp duty because it was our first home here in aussie , we sold after 12 months for 74000 minus agaent costs ,so we was well down . We then bought here for 80000 plus stamp duty and i have sold after 16 years for 700000 .So almost a 1000% increase in 16 years , a bloody good return .
The down side i guess though is the wages these days dont give the same oppuruhity as i had ,home were affordable and interest rates were high , now they are low rates and high houseprices .It is for this very reason in my opinion australia has to be very careful on how it alters interest rates and using them as a way to speed up or slow down the ecnomy , the margin for error is so small now for many people and i would say 50% of mortgage holders would get into financial difficulty if rates even went up to 10 % .The same goes for the uk too
Last edited by king kong; Nov 6th 2009 at 4:18 am.

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Hi Guys,
With view to exchange rates, I contacted Axia Fx based over in Canary Wharf they were very helpful in trying to get me into the market at the right time. With the way the markets are at the moment it may be beneficial to speak to them about the mid-long term forecast.
With view to exchange rates, I contacted Axia Fx based over in Canary Wharf they were very helpful in trying to get me into the market at the right time. With the way the markets are at the moment it may be beneficial to speak to them about the mid-long term forecast.



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Just shows nobody exchanging at the mo when they resort to that! People still moving to oz but the £'s are staying home!

#864

i wouldnt have thought money came in to the equation when it comes to the aussie dream . After all they will get a better return in the bank and jobs that pay twice as much . Maybe time to bite the bullet for many migrants .

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Lol-that really is funny.Money not coming into equation?
If I had left the UK two years ago I would be more than 800,000 aus better off.(No joke serious)Anybody who says money not into the equation clearly doesnt have a grip(all due respect)
THe pound hasnt been this low in years and the ausie hasnt been higher.
You go out to OZ and u lose thousands now- some with a bit of equity behind them lose a lot more than that!
Not for the faint hearted that is for sure.It may not mean much to you but to many it means a hell of a lot!
I am sitting tight in UK.Be crazy to do otherwise!
It could drop further but all indications are it has bottomed and now slowly coming back but who am I to say?
I am the one who didnt do it two years ago and have been kicking myself ever since!
If I had left the UK two years ago I would be more than 800,000 aus better off.(No joke serious)Anybody who says money not into the equation clearly doesnt have a grip(all due respect)
THe pound hasnt been this low in years and the ausie hasnt been higher.
You go out to OZ and u lose thousands now- some with a bit of equity behind them lose a lot more than that!
Not for the faint hearted that is for sure.It may not mean much to you but to many it means a hell of a lot!
I am sitting tight in UK.Be crazy to do otherwise!
It could drop further but all indications are it has bottomed and now slowly coming back but who am I to say?
I am the one who didnt do it two years ago and have been kicking myself ever since!

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Lol-that really is funny.Money not coming into equation?
If I had left the UK two years ago I would be more than 800,000 aus better off.(No joke serious)Anybody who says money not into the equation clearly doesnt have a grip(all due respect)
You go out to OZ and u lose thousands now- some with a bit of equity behind them lose a lot more than that!
Not for the faint hearted that is for sure.It may not mean much to you but to many it means a hell of a lot!
I am sitting tight in UK.Be crazy to do otherwise!
It could drop further but all indications are it has bottomed and now slowly coming back but who am I to say?
I am the one who didnt do it two years ago and have been kicking myself ever since!
If I had left the UK two years ago I would be more than 800,000 aus better off.(No joke serious)Anybody who says money not into the equation clearly doesnt have a grip(all due respect)
You go out to OZ and u lose thousands now- some with a bit of equity behind them lose a lot more than that!
Not for the faint hearted that is for sure.It may not mean much to you but to many it means a hell of a lot!
I am sitting tight in UK.Be crazy to do otherwise!
It could drop further but all indications are it has bottomed and now slowly coming back but who am I to say?
I am the one who didnt do it two years ago and have been kicking myself ever since!


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Lol-that really is funny.Money not coming into equation?
If I had left the UK two years ago I would be more than 800,000 aus better off.(No joke serious)Anybody who says money not into the equation clearly doesnt have a grip(all due respect)
THe pound hasnt been this low in years and the ausie hasnt been higher.
You go out to OZ and u lose thousands now- some with a bit of equity behind them lose a lot more than that!
Not for the faint hearted that is for sure.It may not mean much to you but to many it means a hell of a lot!
I am sitting tight in UK.Be crazy to do otherwise!
It could drop further but all indications are it has bottomed and now slowly coming back but who am I to say?
I am the one who didnt do it two years ago and have been kicking myself ever since!
If I had left the UK two years ago I would be more than 800,000 aus better off.(No joke serious)Anybody who says money not into the equation clearly doesnt have a grip(all due respect)
THe pound hasnt been this low in years and the ausie hasnt been higher.
You go out to OZ and u lose thousands now- some with a bit of equity behind them lose a lot more than that!
Not for the faint hearted that is for sure.It may not mean much to you but to many it means a hell of a lot!
I am sitting tight in UK.Be crazy to do otherwise!
It could drop further but all indications are it has bottomed and now slowly coming back but who am I to say?
I am the one who didnt do it two years ago and have been kicking myself ever since!

#868

Yes, a lot of dreams being dashed at the moment!
We weren't after a McMansion - just a nice house with a small mortgage which a year ago (had we had the money then!) would have been fine - no worries literally but now it's a different story. (NB: this is based on housing stock in our area so maybe different for other parts of Oz)
I think we are all between a rock and a hard place at the moment so whether or not it's the right decision - we're taking on a bigger mortgage than we wanted to but at least we'll be paying off our property and not our landladies.
Sometimes I'm not sure if waiting is the answer - we waited to sell in the UK and buy here and now the situation is worse! Although waiting to come out here did work to our advantage - so who knows, it's back to wanting that crystal ball! Arghhhhhh.........life is so hard sometimes!
We weren't after a McMansion - just a nice house with a small mortgage which a year ago (had we had the money then!) would have been fine - no worries literally but now it's a different story. (NB: this is based on housing stock in our area so maybe different for other parts of Oz)
I think we are all between a rock and a hard place at the moment so whether or not it's the right decision - we're taking on a bigger mortgage than we wanted to but at least we'll be paying off our property and not our landladies.
Sometimes I'm not sure if waiting is the answer - we waited to sell in the UK and buy here and now the situation is worse! Although waiting to come out here did work to our advantage - so who knows, it's back to wanting that crystal ball! Arghhhhhh.........life is so hard sometimes!

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Yes, a lot of dreams being dashed at the moment!
We weren't after a McMansion - just a nice house with a small mortgage which a year ago (had we had the money then!) would have been fine - no worries literally but now it's a different story. (NB: this is based on housing stock in our area so maybe different for other parts of Oz)
I think we are all between a rock and a hard place at the moment so whether or not it's the right decision - we're taking on a bigger mortgage than we wanted to but at least we'll be paying off our property and not our landladies.
Sometimes I'm not sure if waiting is the answer - we waited to sell in the UK and buy here and now the situation is worse! Although waiting to come out here did work to our advantage - so who knows, it's back to wanting that crystal ball! Arghhhhhh.........life is so hard sometimes!
We weren't after a McMansion - just a nice house with a small mortgage which a year ago (had we had the money then!) would have been fine - no worries literally but now it's a different story. (NB: this is based on housing stock in our area so maybe different for other parts of Oz)
I think we are all between a rock and a hard place at the moment so whether or not it's the right decision - we're taking on a bigger mortgage than we wanted to but at least we'll be paying off our property and not our landladies.
Sometimes I'm not sure if waiting is the answer - we waited to sell in the UK and buy here and now the situation is worse! Although waiting to come out here did work to our advantage - so who knows, it's back to wanting that crystal ball! Arghhhhhh.........life is so hard sometimes!



#870

Ah...maybe it's one of those "meant to be moments"....maybe something better might happen because of it!
Can be weird when things like that happen. We lost a house at exchange but on reflection I think it would have been a money pit. Then when we were buying the flat the vendor pulled out on the day of exchange BUT.....the one we really wanted came back on the market and was cheaper which made up for the losses.
So you never know what might be around the corner....
Good luck!
KK
Can be weird when things like that happen. We lost a house at exchange but on reflection I think it would have been a money pit. Then when we were buying the flat the vendor pulled out on the day of exchange BUT.....the one we really wanted came back on the market and was cheaper which made up for the losses.
So you never know what might be around the corner....
Good luck!
KK
