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Isakat Sep 21st 2011 9:53 am

Grapes
 
There is some great grapes being sold in the shops, unfortunately, noone eats it at home as it contains pips. I am always looking for pipless grapes( got two boxes yesterday), which is not so easy to find.

So, I wonder as Brits and being used to seedless grapes in the UK supermarkets, do you eat the grapes here?

I never knew that seedless grapes even existed until I moved to the UK.
I just picked loads from our organic muscat vine, shame it will be only me eating it.:)

indiebird Sep 21st 2011 6:46 pm

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I have to say that I never know until I buy if they are seedy or seedless but I don't care. I love grapes and therefore i don't let a few seeds stop me.

ononno Sep 21st 2011 7:04 pm

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:)Didn't know seedless grapes existed full stop. You are right, lovely sweet grapes this year, but a lot less in quantity. Will be a good vintage year.
ciao for now,
'o nonno

Pecora Nera Sep 22nd 2011 4:50 am

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We live in Piemonte and our landlord produces wine. Most mornings a basket of grapes appears on our patio table. Oh and eggs from the hens.

:D

Angeldimana Sep 22nd 2011 8:17 pm

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Ive never seen seedless grapes in Italy and mentioned them to our Italian friends and they never knew they existed.
So, when i had friends over to visit i asked them to bring some over from UK. Then the next day i saw them in our local super market.

The next time i go back to UK i'm going to try and bring some Thomson seedless grape saplings back to plant. You can buy saplings in the UK for about £10. I'm back in UK at xmas but not sure if i'll get them in the UK at that time of year or when i return how will they react to the Italian weather in Le Marche.

Actually, they aren't seedless. The seeds don't develop properly because of genetic defect and sometimes you can still find a very small seed, but barley noticeable.

Seedless all the way for me!!

duffer Sep 22nd 2011 9:09 pm

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My suocero has just picked his grapes to make his wine. One of the grapes is the uva fragola, they are fairly small black grapes and incredibly sweet but the seeds are quite large.

Isakat Sep 23rd 2011 7:52 am

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Originally Posted by Angeldimana (Post 9637583)
Ive never seen seedless grapes in Italy and mentioned them to our Italian friends and they never knew they existed.
So, when i had friends over to visit i asked them to bring some over from UK. Then the next day i saw them in our local super market.

The next time i go back to UK i'm going to try and bring some Thomson seedless grape saplings back to plant. You can buy saplings in the UK for about £10. I'm back in UK at xmas but not sure if i'll get them in the UK at that time of year or when i return how will they react to the Italian weather in Le Marche.

Actually, they aren't seedless. The seeds don't develop properly because of genetic defect and sometimes you can still find a very small seed, but barley noticeable.

Seedless all the way for me!!

Did you check out that garden centre I gave you info on seedless saplings?

Isakat Sep 23rd 2011 7:55 am

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Originally Posted by duffer (Post 9637622)
My suocero has just picked his grapes to make his wine. One of the grapes is the uva fragola, they are fairly small black grapes and incredibly sweet but the seeds are quite large.

Duffer, the wasps and the birds ate the uva fragola grapes this year as I did not bother to pick it. Last year nobody wanted to eat it, although it is so aromatic, it does have strawberry scent. I made jam from it after I squeezed all seeds out through a muslin cloth.

Cashmere Kate Sep 25th 2011 8:33 pm

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I found seedless grapes in our local supermarket on Saturday! I got quite excited! All gone now. I'll have to pop over later to see if they've got any left. Hopefully the Italians see seedless grapes as something "different" i.e. won't go anywhere near them! :D

Angeldimana Sep 25th 2011 8:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Isakat (Post 9638578)
Did you check out that garden centre I gave you info on seedless saplings?

Yeah - they dont sell online and Bologna is a bit far from me. Couldnt see online that they do them.

Probably easier to get them if i can at xmas when i'm back MOTing the car.

Pecora Nera Sep 25th 2011 9:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Isakat (Post 9638587)
Duffer, the wasps and the birds ate the uva fragola grapes this year as I did not bother to pick it. Last year nobody wanted to eat it, although it is so aromatic, it does have strawberry scent. I made jam from it after I squeezed all seeds out through a muslin cloth.

Hi Isakat,

Do you have an easy recipe for Jam. I have a lot of Fragola grapes and Barbera grapes.

I turned some of the grapes into a fruit juice but would like to make some Jam.

Pete

duffer Sep 25th 2011 9:39 pm

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Sounds like a good idea - Jam.

Isakat Sep 25th 2011 10:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Pecora Nera (Post 9642103)
Hi Isakat,

Do you have an easy recipe for Jam. I have a lot of Fragola grapes and Barbera grapes.

I turned some of the grapes into a fruit juice but would like to make some Jam.

Pete


Pete,
I made the jam with 1kg. fruit and 400 gr of sugar. The Uva Fragola grapes are sweet and have plenty of pectin in them so I would not put any more sugar than that. Boil it in a big pot, then simmer. I check if it has set by putting some on a plate that has been in the freezer. It should not have a runny consistency, although bear in mind that when it cools, it will be thicker.I also put some Frutapec( one bag to 2kg fruit) as this helps set it and the lemon acid helps preserve the jam.
Wash jars, put them in the oven to sterilize them and under the lids I put some baking paper.

I do not know what the Barbera grapes are like, but surely you can do the same with them.

Pecora Nera Sep 25th 2011 10:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Isakat (Post 9642209)
Pete,
I made the jam with 1kg. fruit and 400 gr of sugar. The Uva Fragola grapes are sweet and have plenty of pectin in them so I would not put any more sugar than that. Boil it in a big pot, then simmer. I check if it has set by putting some on a plate that has been in the freezer. It should not have a runny consistency, although bear in mind that when it cools, it will be thicker.I also put some Frutapec( one bag to 2kg fruit) as this helps set it and the lemon acid helps preserve the jam.
Wash jars, put them in the oven to sterilize them and under the lids I put some baking paper.

I do not know what the Barbera grapes are like, but surely you can do the same with them.

I will have a go at it. The Barbara grapes are really for making wine with but they are very sweet this year. So we have been eating them...

Isakat Sep 26th 2011 3:29 am

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Originally Posted by Pecora Nera (Post 9642230)
I will have a go at it. The Barbara grapes are really for making wine with but they are very sweet this year. So we have been eating them...

Forgot to say, stir it often as it can burn on the bottom of the pan if you live it and chuck out the scum( froth collecting on top).


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