So, we are thinking of moving......
#302
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Joined: Apr 2007
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Re: So, we are thinking of moving......
Hi Malibu, I'm interested in your perspective and know your environs extremely well.
without any personal information, which suburb do you live in?
I'm having difficulty coming to terms with your description.
When i left at the end of 2004, my maid(Hell, my daughters other grandmother more like) was earning twice the minimum wage as set out by the govt. plus accommodation/pension/medical
in fact, of all our friends paid their helpers more than.You had to keep the good ones,they were entrusted with the safety of your children and home.
You dont buy a Ferrari and then put cheap retread tyres on.
One of my daughters schoolfriends mother asked for some help in finding a helper and childminder.
Isabel refused point blank to recommend anyone, her comment: The blacks and the indians expect you to work all the time and dont pay.
Her comment, not mine.
Regarding the crime, you must move in a limited circle, I'm looking at this weeks Community policing Forum report for Midrand just up the road from Pretoria where it was a quiet week.
Happy to post the link and the street addresses but there were 14 Burglaries, 3 house Robberies with guns,our friend Rick was shot in his driveway ,8 cars stolen, 7 Hi-Jackings but it was a good week.
There were no rapes, no-one died.
without any personal information, which suburb do you live in?
I'm having difficulty coming to terms with your description.
When i left at the end of 2004, my maid(Hell, my daughters other grandmother more like) was earning twice the minimum wage as set out by the govt. plus accommodation/pension/medical
in fact, of all our friends paid their helpers more than.You had to keep the good ones,they were entrusted with the safety of your children and home.
You dont buy a Ferrari and then put cheap retread tyres on.
One of my daughters schoolfriends mother asked for some help in finding a helper and childminder.
Isabel refused point blank to recommend anyone, her comment: The blacks and the indians expect you to work all the time and dont pay.
Her comment, not mine.
Regarding the crime, you must move in a limited circle, I'm looking at this weeks Community policing Forum report for Midrand just up the road from Pretoria where it was a quiet week.
Happy to post the link and the street addresses but there were 14 Burglaries, 3 house Robberies with guns,our friend Rick was shot in his driveway ,8 cars stolen, 7 Hi-Jackings but it was a good week.
There were no rapes, no-one died.
#303
Re: So, we are thinking of moving......
We've now lived in Pretoria just over a year and have not personally experienced anything bad, nor do I know anybody who has although everybody seems to know somebody who knows somebody who has.
That's not to underplay the problem of crime - there is a lot of it but it mostly affects poor black people.
That's not to underplay the problem of crime - there is a lot of it but it mostly affects poor black people.
The ANC should be setting the example
I would like to ask you. What are you doing about the situation ? You stated earlier that you are privileged therefore you must be in a position to help those in need .
Africa is currently under review in terms of its governance and ability to retain sustainability. It is all very well to keep getting debt cancelled but there has to come a time to stand on your own two feet otherwise you just keep feeding the problem and that is not a solution.
Cheers
#304
Re: So, what's happening ?
We've now lived in Pretoria just over a year and have not personally experienced anything bad.
Why not do something positive like paying your domestic workers a decent wage so that they can actually afford to feed and clothe themselves and their families and send their kids to school?
Why not do something positive like paying your domestic workers a decent wage so that they can actually afford to feed and clothe themselves and their families and send their kids to school?
http://www.24.com/news/?p=saa&i=521459
Do you think this is due to low wages ?
Cheers
#305
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 53
Re: So, what's happening ?
Why do you think this is happening ?
http://www.24.com/news/?p=saa&i=521459
Do you think this is due to low wages ?
Cheers
http://www.24.com/news/?p=saa&i=521459
Do you think this is due to low wages ?
Cheers
The same stale excuse will be trotted out - apartheid and the white racist regime!
#306
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Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Brisbane QLD
Posts: 261
Re: So, we are thinking of moving......
The thing is, the moment they start pushing in that direction, what do the taxi people do? Blockade all traffic in the major cities, which they did last year again if I recall correctly, and the govt is forced to back down. The NATS were never able to collect tax from them either. They're an extremely powerful renegade lot who do whatever the heck they want to do.
On the Carte Blanche show they seemed to get it right. A link on that and similar
http://allafrica.com/stories/200705110224.html
#307
Re: So, we are thinking of moving......
The blockade was because they were again attempting to stop the small taxi's and be forced to use the 20 or 30 seat version, with seed monitoring built in to procecute speedsters. The NATS never realy considered it to be a huge revenue source, but it has grown in leaps and bounds in the last 10 years. If you own a small Nissan or Toyota, and the engine can be used in a taxi, it has a good risk of becoming an involuntary engine donor.
On the Carte Blanche show they seemed to get it right. A link on that and similar
http://allafrica.com/stories/200705110224.html
On the Carte Blanche show they seemed to get it right. A link on that and similar
http://allafrica.com/stories/200705110224.html
That will get a few taxi drivers mad and perhaps a few more gun battles in the streets
#308
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Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 8,266
Re: So, we are thinking of moving......
The blockade was because they were again attempting to stop the small taxi's and be forced to use the 20 or 30 seat version, with seed monitoring built in to procecute speedsters. The NATS never realy considered it to be a huge revenue source, but it has grown in leaps and bounds in the last 10 years. If you own a small Nissan or Toyota, and the engine can be used in a taxi, it has a good risk of becoming an involuntary engine donor.
On the Carte Blanche show they seemed to get it right. A link on that and similar
http://allafrica.com/stories/200705110224.html
On the Carte Blanche show they seemed to get it right. A link on that and similar
http://allafrica.com/stories/200705110224.html
#309
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17
Re: So, we are thinking of moving......
Just out of interest, why do you guys care so much? Cant believe you still read stuff about SA. We all know its a mess, I'm just puzzled that you actually spend time reading the newspapers all of which seem to report the same bad things daily.
#310
Re: So, we are thinking of moving......
I have several nephews with young children over there.
I can not comment on why the South African newspapers are mostly filled with crime and horror stories and as one of the moderators recently explained finds the horror difficult to believe.
It is sad that the reports of the same murder, rape and slaughter are a reflection of what is happening in SA . I guess you can say a bit like a scoreboard, if the slaughter continues expect to hear about it continuously.
Hopes that helps with your confusion.
#311
Re: So, we are thinking of moving......
In one word, FAMILY. Working my ass off to get family members the hell out of there. Sad, as it was once a place we all considered home.