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Mandela boost for Zuma
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8006652.stm

Funny this. Mandela was recently on the BBC explaining how he never involved himself in politics. I kind of wish he'd stuck to that commitment.
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not impressed- he can't stand up to Mugabe but he can stand up for Zuma- have often wondered about the true nature of the man. I don't believe he is what he makes out to be.

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Mandela boost for Zuma
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8006652.stm

Funny this. Mandela was recently on the BBC explaining how he never involved himself in politics. I kind of wish he'd stuck to that commitment.
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The BBC, ever compliant, and generally wholly wrong about Africa, wonders whether Madiba has been taken advantage of. Thing is, when last he was shown on the BBC, in a long documentary, he had a whole army of able-minded advisers. Still, "badly advised" would be the charitable explanation.
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What people forget is that when he came out of Prison after 27 years, the ANC Ruling Committee did'nt say, welcome back Nelson, here is your seat at the head of the table we've been keeping it warm for you.
Now what should we do?

They said, Right, you are a PR Gem, this is what you will say!
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The BBC managed to tie itself up in knots last night by trying to make out that the sainted Madiba was on the one hand "a moral man" and on the other that he was constrained by his loyalty to "the party" to obey the "democratic will of the ANC".
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Originally Posted by Pablo
The BBC, ever compliant, and generally wholly wrong about Africa, wonders whether Madiba has been taken advantage of. Thing is, when last he was shown on the BBC, in a long documentary, he had a whole army of able-minded advisers. Still, "badly advised" would be the charitable explanation.
So if they are "generally wholly" wrong about Africa, why bother reading them? and why post a link here to their story, after all its probably "generally wholly wrong" ?
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so what's your point?

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So if they are "generally wholly" wrong about Africa, why bother reading them? and why post a link here to their story, after all its probably "generally wholly wrong" ?
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So if they are "generally wholly" wrong about Africa, why bother reading them? and why post a link here to their story, after all its probably "generally wholly wrong" ?
Don't be stupid, Stanley.
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Don't be stupid, Stanley.
That's like telling water not to be wet.
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That's like telling water not to be wet.
You talk to water?
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You talk to water?
No, I lead the ANC - ergo - I can walk on it...the fact I'm up to my neck and not skipping accross the surface is due to 70 years of colonial rule, and nothing to do with my thieving, corrupt nature and pockets stuffed full of cash from the people I promised to help.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuEc-nFULY8

not sure if you have seen this - more racism? More lunacy? or an unpalatable truth? Starts slow but when he winds up he starts getting excited...
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Jeepers.
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Originally Posted by Tegwyn
Jeepers.
For whatever Madiba is, there are thousands of white South Africans extremely grateful to him, if it had been Winnie or any of her ilk we would have had a blood bath, his tenure stabilised SA and allowed a period of cooling off and mutual forgiveness (fair or not). Zuma is a complete unknown, in 5 years this place could be as bad as Zimbabwe, or he could surprise everybody and maintain some sort of positive momentum.
Sorry, lost my next point.

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