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6000

Or... I'm working in a lab in Green Point in Cape Town...

Pablo

Yes, I fully realise you're in Cape Town, but for you to claim that, because you can "see" South Africa from your window (by which, presumably, you mean you can see a bit of Green Point, or a bit of the sea) that therefore you have a better grasp of the questions being discussed is rather a sleight of hand, wouldn't you say?

And previously you have pleased to gerrymander the crime stats in order to suggest that crime in SA is somehow no worse than Helsinki, and when challenged you back down and claim that you know crime is a problem, but you have a life to live, etc.

I mean, go ahead and play rhetorical games like this if you want. But don't come out with that 'trust me I'm a scientist' guff.

Pablo

6000

I was amazed at the Helsinki stat too. But it came from the BBC website, no less.
I would wager that I am in a better position to comment on the issue at hand than those with their IOL news feeds and chinese whispers across the water. Simply because I see it first hand. Day in, day out.
I haven't backed down at all for the simple reason that I've mantained the same stance throughout my stay here. That is: Crime is a terrible thing, but it is blown out of all proportion on forums like this. And I think you'll find the phrase is actually "trust me, I'm a doctor" - a qualification which I am working on!

Mitzyboy

He cant win Pablo can he
If he posts on here that there is little crime he is attacked for it, and if he then admits that crime is an issue he is also criticised.

6000

In fairness, I never said that there was "little crime" - merely less than some other places.
But no - there's an answer for everything.

Pablo

Point taken, but you will recall that I defended Ededed when he said that he was only commenting on his own experiences of crime in Jo'burg. I think Ededed has been more careful not to extend his own personal experiences into a depreciation of the crime others have suffered.

Pablo

6000

I have not suggested, nor would I suggest that my experiences of crime depreciate in any way the feelings of those who have experienced it. Being a victim of crime is no way pleasant (having experienced it here and in the UK myself).
My comments about the crime in the area I live were based on my personal experiences and those Government figures that came out this week. I think that's reasonable.

Must I keep repeating myself? I accept that crime is a problem. I also think it is blown out of all proportion by the press and certain website (genuine or not). I don't think that helps the situation at all.

TouristTrap

And here we disagree. The press under reports crime. Therefore, how can it be blown out of proportion? 50 murders a day, thousands of rapes a day, thousands of burglaries, hijackings, etc..a day, are NOT being reported. Many don't even make it into the police statistics never mind the press pages.

Will it help you cope with the threat of crime, if it swept under the carpet and completely ignored, as has been happening for the most part, the last 13 years?

NTS

What do you do in the lab in cape town. Are you one of the quota's of space scientists

I had a look at your web-site, which was great.

If you swapped Arctic Monkeys for the Manics, and Saints for the blades we could get on OK!

NTS

To be fair, I dont think he is saying it is not a problem, just statistically it is not likely to be you.

Which is fine, but, Personally, statistically, it is still too high for my liking so I wont extend my stay here beyond Jan08.

6000

TT - please read my posts. While not all crime is reported in the papers (yes, I'm agreeing with you AGAIN on this point), one must note that for every citizen who has a crime committed against him or her on any given day, there are hundreds of thousands of others who don't.
Therefore, the press coverage of crime is disproportionate to the actual problem. As I said, when was the last time you read a story:


Joe Bloggs went to work this morning. After a morning of meetings, he had a chicken sandwich for lunch, wrote up the Sales report and then drove home. The traffic was quite bad on the M3, which was annoying. Before dinner he went to the gym and then came back and watched a bit of tele before bed. Joe says he plans to do the same tomorrow, but may do fewer sit-ups as he was feeling "a bit sore".


And yet, for the VAST majority of people - that's exactly how life is. Although I don't go to the gym often enough.

I don't want crime swept under the carpet - I don't think you could, but I don't think that the issue is helped by over-sensationalism.


I'm working on TB diagnostics.
Thanks for the comments on the website - needs an update.
Maybe tonight. Maybe not.

The Arctic Monkeys are a big fave of mine too - Sheffield lad myself after all. But Blades for Saints - sorry - not going to happen - it's in the family genome!

NTS

Sheffield have some quite good bands at the moment. Different to the Arctics but have you heard Neil McSweeny & also richard hawley. Both more mellow but really good.

My sister lives in Sheffield and she gets to see all these great bands before they are famous.

NTS

Actually, Saints play Sheffield united in the last game of the season. Could be an interesting one if we both do well. or could be a 'who cares' mid table last game of the season. I set my football sights low, so I won't be disappointed

hatfield1

Kitten24,
My hart goes out to you. Best wishes to you and family.

6000,
I was referring to 80safrkan. He/she had no constructive points to make if any at all. Just trying to get a rise out of people. A he/she is not around any more why waist the time talks about them. Like I said in any earlier post I didn’t have a negative thing to say about CT, with the exception that it didn’t feel very African.
On the surfing topic, is the Red Bull big surf contest going on now in Jbay? I thought it was in June/July? You want scary paddle in to one of those giants. Any of you guy/galls have a Baron (Stander) board? I lucked out and got a 9’6” beauty from baron himself before he passed last year. I believe it’s the last board he made. Any one who is going to Durbs should check out The Time warp Surfing Museum. http://www.timewarpsurfingmuseum.com/ It’s the thing a surfers dreams are made of. (Long boarders anyway)