TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
Feb 23rd 2009, 10:23 pm
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
I didn't come to Australia on a skilled visa so I'm not best placed to comment about your first query.
Be aware that doing 'any job' is what a lot of people say, which can make those sorts of jobs extremely competitive. There's a very good (if a few weeks old now) thread on that in the main Australia forum.
OTOH newly quals can often remain in high demand even in a recession so I wouldn't necessarily assume that a newly qual role is out of the question. Are you planning on staying in practice or industry? (I don't have any inside info, I'm just curious).
I'm in Melbourne and the market for accountants is only slowly moving. A temp candidate should expect to wait upwards of 3 weeks to secure a job: a perm candidate may have to wait upwards of 3 months. It all depends a lot on your qualifications, experience, how you hold yourself at interview etc etc of course.
Be aware that doing 'any job' is what a lot of people say, which can make those sorts of jobs extremely competitive. There's a very good (if a few weeks old now) thread on that in the main Australia forum.
OTOH newly quals can often remain in high demand even in a recession so I wouldn't necessarily assume that a newly qual role is out of the question. Are you planning on staying in practice or industry? (I don't have any inside info, I'm just curious).
I'm in Melbourne and the market for accountants is only slowly moving. A temp candidate should expect to wait upwards of 3 weeks to secure a job: a perm candidate may have to wait upwards of 3 months. It all depends a lot on your qualifications, experience, how you hold yourself at interview etc etc of course.
Feb 23rd 2009, 10:32 pm
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
I'm quite happy to either remain in practice or go into industry. I'm not interested in becoming a mega high flier or anything, I just want to earn enough that we can live comfortably but have the right work/life balance in order to spend time as a family. I'm not going to pigeonhole myself before I even get over to Oz, so as I said - anything will do!!!!
Hopefully by the time I get there (2-3 years which seems a lifetime away) the job front will have picked up a little.
How long have you been over there?? I'm presuming you emigrated from the UK? There is so much to take into consideration - I think the main thing is "is the grass really greener" and would we be uprooting our two children to completely regret it?? We don't have a clue where to go and are hoping to have a 3 week hol next year spending 1 week on the west coast and then 2 weeks on the south and south east coast.
Many thanks for your replies by the way, any information we can get about anything at this stage is very welcome
Hopefully by the time I get there (2-3 years which seems a lifetime away) the job front will have picked up a little.
How long have you been over there?? I'm presuming you emigrated from the UK? There is so much to take into consideration - I think the main thing is "is the grass really greener" and would we be uprooting our two children to completely regret it?? We don't have a clue where to go and are hoping to have a 3 week hol next year spending 1 week on the west coast and then 2 weeks on the south and south east coast.
Many thanks for your replies by the way, any information we can get about anything at this stage is very welcome
Feb 23rd 2009, 10:42 pm
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
Yes I emigrated from the Uk. However, we don't have kids so we didn't make exactly the same move as you.
The grass is as green as you want it to be! So long as you are realistic in your expectations - numerous threads in the main Australia forum - and are not basing your decision on having seen a few episodes of Wanted Down Under, Neighbours and Home And Away then you should have a great time here.
The grass is as green as you want it to be! So long as you are realistic in your expectations - numerous threads in the main Australia forum - and are not basing your decision on having seen a few episodes of Wanted Down Under, Neighbours and Home And Away then you should have a great time here.
Feb 23rd 2009, 11:28 pm
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
Are you applying for both temp and perm work? Even if temp work is not at the right rate, in the right location and doing the right sort of role it can still be a good way in (it was for me).
I don't doubt you've considered it but if you can be even a little bit more flexible it might help.
Cross fingers for you.
I don't doubt you've considered it but if you can be even a little bit more flexible it might help.
Cross fingers for you.
I've tried looking for admin and data entry work even, but they're pretty specific about the criteria. Would you happent to know any agencies specialising in temping? I've applied to almost every agency I can think of: Hudson, Hays, Robert Half, Robert Walters, Michael Page (had helpful advice but no resulting interviews) and a few other smaller ones. The meeting with the recruiters always ends optimistically, but it's all been dead ends so far.
Would you advise me to make a move to Melbourne? I read somewhere 80% of finance/ accounting jobs are located there and in Sydney. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Feb 23rd 2009, 11:49 pm
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
If you've applied to the agencies in your area then there won't be any others that you've missed. I don't know of any that specialise in temping. I found using the big job websites - ie Seek, MyCareer and CareerOne - at least gave me an idea of who the recruitment agents and recruiting companies were in a given area.
Without knowing your personal details - which aren't appropriate for an open forum and when I'm not a recruitment consultant by trade - I couldn't tell you whether you should move or not. What I'd suggest is ringing a few consultants in Sydney and Melbourne and see what they say. The consultants you have been dealing with in the Gold Coast should be able to give you phone numbers of colleagues in those offices.
Chat to them, explain what experience you have and see what they say. If there's enough positive feedback then you can think about moving.
Without knowing your personal details - which aren't appropriate for an open forum and when I'm not a recruitment consultant by trade - I couldn't tell you whether you should move or not. What I'd suggest is ringing a few consultants in Sydney and Melbourne and see what they say. The consultants you have been dealing with in the Gold Coast should be able to give you phone numbers of colleagues in those offices.
Chat to them, explain what experience you have and see what they say. If there's enough positive feedback then you can think about moving.
Feb 24th 2009, 12:06 am
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
If you've applied to the agencies in your area then there won't be any others that you've missed. I don't know of any that specialise in temping. I found using the big job websites - ie Seek, MyCareer and CareerOne - at least gave me an idea of who the recruitment agents and recruiting companies were in a given area.
Without knowing your personal details - which aren't appropriate for an open forum and when I'm not a recruitment consultant by trade - I couldn't tell you whether you should move or not. What I'd suggest is ringing a few consultants in Sydney and Melbourne and see what they say. The consultants you have been dealing with in the Gold Coast should be able to give you phone numbers of colleagues in those offices.
Chat to them, explain what experience you have and see what they say. If there's enough positive feedback then you can think about moving.
Without knowing your personal details - which aren't appropriate for an open forum and when I'm not a recruitment consultant by trade - I couldn't tell you whether you should move or not. What I'd suggest is ringing a few consultants in Sydney and Melbourne and see what they say. The consultants you have been dealing with in the Gold Coast should be able to give you phone numbers of colleagues in those offices.
Chat to them, explain what experience you have and see what they say. If there's enough positive feedback then you can think about moving.
Feb 26th 2009, 9:02 am
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Re: A recent exp from Adelaide -
Hi Guys,
I have come to adelaide and am here since the last 15 days on SIR visa. Although i agree with people saying that the job situation in Adelaide is not very good, I personally think it depends on how you take it. First of all the Indian concept of having a good job is completely different from that in Australia. In India a good job means something where you are bossing around people and driving in good cars at the same time earning good money. Here it is completely a flat structure and hence you have to actually work with your own hands. Aussies generally appreciate people who can do their own jobs and do not depend on others (which happens a lot in India). Also, here a sweeper is also respected as much as a big business owner. It does not depend on what you are doing but it depends on whether you are doing it or not. If you are ready to do anything for the first six months or so, you would be able to settle yourself very well in the Aussie culture. The only problem is that they do not consider experience outside Australia but then any sort of experience in Australia is counted as local experience. There are examples of people who have waited for a long time to get a job in their field and then have returned to India due to frustration. The most important thing is taking up any job which can be or cannot be related to your profession and getting local experience. People here earn quite a lot as Taxi drivers/ supermarkets/ pizza delivery boys, etc.
As for me, I was into sales and marketing in India and I would say was at a good position there. But after coming here I have started door to door delivery of catalogs (which is a big business here) and am simultaneously applying to jobs thru the net. Currently I am not earning anything but the most important thing is I am getting local experience which would help me getting some a good job later on. Currently I am getting mails from prospective employers and hopefully would get a good job in the near future.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE IS NOT TO LOOSE HEART AND TO KEEP ON TRYING. I think with this attitude we all will succeed one day.
I have come to adelaide and am here since the last 15 days on SIR visa. Although i agree with people saying that the job situation in Adelaide is not very good, I personally think it depends on how you take it. First of all the Indian concept of having a good job is completely different from that in Australia. In India a good job means something where you are bossing around people and driving in good cars at the same time earning good money. Here it is completely a flat structure and hence you have to actually work with your own hands. Aussies generally appreciate people who can do their own jobs and do not depend on others (which happens a lot in India). Also, here a sweeper is also respected as much as a big business owner. It does not depend on what you are doing but it depends on whether you are doing it or not. If you are ready to do anything for the first six months or so, you would be able to settle yourself very well in the Aussie culture. The only problem is that they do not consider experience outside Australia but then any sort of experience in Australia is counted as local experience. There are examples of people who have waited for a long time to get a job in their field and then have returned to India due to frustration. The most important thing is taking up any job which can be or cannot be related to your profession and getting local experience. People here earn quite a lot as Taxi drivers/ supermarkets/ pizza delivery boys, etc.
As for me, I was into sales and marketing in India and I would say was at a good position there. But after coming here I have started door to door delivery of catalogs (which is a big business here) and am simultaneously applying to jobs thru the net. Currently I am not earning anything but the most important thing is I am getting local experience which would help me getting some a good job later on. Currently I am getting mails from prospective employers and hopefully would get a good job in the near future.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE IS NOT TO LOOSE HEART AND TO KEEP ON TRYING. I think with this attitude we all will succeed one day.
Feb 26th 2009, 9:14 am
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Re: Addition to above
Hi Guys,
I am in Adelaide since the last 15 days and have been helped quite a lot by the couple with whom I am staying now. Without their help it would have been difficult for me to settle down in the initial period.
I would like to tell somethings to people who are planning to come to adelaide in the near future. These things have been learnt by my friends the hard way but in my case it was easier as they could tell me everything about it.
BEFORE COMING TO AUSTRALIA :
1. Try to see documentaries or serials from Australia to understand the Aussie slang as it is quite different and it takes some time to understand it.
2. Try to buy a good Wifi enabled laptop as it is very useful for your job search.
3. Take a good Travel Insurance policy with as much validity as possible (I had taken ICICI Lombard for 6 months which included medical insurance also- cost me about Rs. 11000). This is important as in SIR you do not get any benefits and it is not advisable to spend your money on this as soon as you come.
4. Remember to get your normal Indian driving license (International license not required) as for SIR visa holders the same license is valid till they are on SIR VISA and for PR it is valid for 3 months.
5. Bring the currency in AUD and not in USD as banks take conversion charges for USD and in turn you have to pay double charges.
AFTER COMING TO AUSTRALIA :
1. First and foremost open an account in Australia with the help of your passport (with the visa stamping) and money to put in your account. There is no minimum limit to open an account and you can open an account with very limited amount of money. The good banks are ANZ, Commonwealth bank or Bank SA. PLEASE REMEMBER TO TAKE A LETTER FROM THE BANK FOR YOUR LOCAL ADDRESS VERIFICATION.
2. Visit Centerlink (govt operated - nearest to where you stay) and register yourself for Jobsearch thru the govt approved JOb network partners. You can suggest the Jobsearch partner which is located nearest to where you are staying. Eg : MAXIMA, ASK, JOB PROSPECTS, etc. The centerlink representative will you an appointment with the partner you select.
3. Meet the representative from the jobsearch partner at the given time. These are govt sponsored offices where you can do your internet jobsearch, check your mails, call up for job ads, take photocopies or printouts of your CV's etc. ALL THIS IS COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE.
4.Take membership with the local council library located in your area (Infact you can take membership with any libraries located in Adelaide). For this you will need your passport and the address proof given by the bank. In the library you can read any books, take home a limited number of books CD's, DVD's, brouse internet (1 hour daily), use your Wifi enabled laptop to brouse the net (8 hours daily), etc. AGAIN ALL OF THIS FREE OF CHARGE.
5. The most important thing start looking out for any sort of job which is available, without restraining yourself.
I hope the above information is helpful to people who are coming here for the first time. Our friends who are staying here for a long time can make correction in this or suggest any more things which I might have missed out.
Regards,
Presh.
I am in Adelaide since the last 15 days and have been helped quite a lot by the couple with whom I am staying now. Without their help it would have been difficult for me to settle down in the initial period.
I would like to tell somethings to people who are planning to come to adelaide in the near future. These things have been learnt by my friends the hard way but in my case it was easier as they could tell me everything about it.
BEFORE COMING TO AUSTRALIA :
1. Try to see documentaries or serials from Australia to understand the Aussie slang as it is quite different and it takes some time to understand it.
2. Try to buy a good Wifi enabled laptop as it is very useful for your job search.
3. Take a good Travel Insurance policy with as much validity as possible (I had taken ICICI Lombard for 6 months which included medical insurance also- cost me about Rs. 11000). This is important as in SIR you do not get any benefits and it is not advisable to spend your money on this as soon as you come.
4. Remember to get your normal Indian driving license (International license not required) as for SIR visa holders the same license is valid till they are on SIR VISA and for PR it is valid for 3 months.
5. Bring the currency in AUD and not in USD as banks take conversion charges for USD and in turn you have to pay double charges.
AFTER COMING TO AUSTRALIA :
1. First and foremost open an account in Australia with the help of your passport (with the visa stamping) and money to put in your account. There is no minimum limit to open an account and you can open an account with very limited amount of money. The good banks are ANZ, Commonwealth bank or Bank SA. PLEASE REMEMBER TO TAKE A LETTER FROM THE BANK FOR YOUR LOCAL ADDRESS VERIFICATION.
2. Visit Centerlink (govt operated - nearest to where you stay) and register yourself for Jobsearch thru the govt approved JOb network partners. You can suggest the Jobsearch partner which is located nearest to where you are staying. Eg : MAXIMA, ASK, JOB PROSPECTS, etc. The centerlink representative will you an appointment with the partner you select.
3. Meet the representative from the jobsearch partner at the given time. These are govt sponsored offices where you can do your internet jobsearch, check your mails, call up for job ads, take photocopies or printouts of your CV's etc. ALL THIS IS COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE.
4.Take membership with the local council library located in your area (Infact you can take membership with any libraries located in Adelaide). For this you will need your passport and the address proof given by the bank. In the library you can read any books, take home a limited number of books CD's, DVD's, brouse internet (1 hour daily), use your Wifi enabled laptop to brouse the net (8 hours daily), etc. AGAIN ALL OF THIS FREE OF CHARGE.
5. The most important thing start looking out for any sort of job which is available, without restraining yourself.
I hope the above information is helpful to people who are coming here for the first time. Our friends who are staying here for a long time can make correction in this or suggest any more things which I might have missed out.
Regards,
Presh.
Feb 26th 2009, 9:57 am
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Re: Addition to above
These tips might get a wider audience in the main Australia forum rather than just in the Accountants forum.
Mar 2nd 2009, 10:04 am
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
Agents for the most part know nothing about finance and this presents a problem when they are representing a client with a list of several hundred applicants. (I deliberately allerted to "representing a client" because thats where their focus is).
If you can get yourself a weekend break visit Melbourne fly in Thursday night see the agents Friday (review the city for potential move Sat/Sun) agents again Monday fly back Monday night.
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:15 am
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
Janice, my advice would be to explore Melbourne or Sydney markets but first review your CV and how you are marketing yourself through the agents.
Agents for the most part know nothing about finance and this presents a problem when they are representing a client with a list of several hundred applicants. (I deliberately allerted to "representing a client" because thats where their focus is).
If you can get yourself a weekend break visit Melbourne fly in Thursday night see the agents Friday (review the city for potential move Sat/Sun) agents again Monday fly back Monday night.
Agents for the most part know nothing about finance and this presents a problem when they are representing a client with a list of several hundred applicants. (I deliberately allerted to "representing a client" because thats where their focus is).
If you can get yourself a weekend break visit Melbourne fly in Thursday night see the agents Friday (review the city for potential move Sat/Sun) agents again Monday fly back Monday night.
Apr 23rd 2009, 10:52 am
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
Hi Guyz,
I have 3 years working experience in India in Finance field. Planning to work in Australia, Done my Bcom & MBA in Finance. Can anyone advise me the requirements for workin in Australia. I dont have much idea about the conditions or requirements for settling in Australia.
I would like to know if there any way to settle in Australia, by going for work and not by going for studies. Whether, are there any examz from here or any other way. Thanks and expecting a reply. - Rakesh, Chennai, India
I have 3 years working experience in India in Finance field. Planning to work in Australia, Done my Bcom & MBA in Finance. Can anyone advise me the requirements for workin in Australia. I dont have much idea about the conditions or requirements for settling in Australia.
I would like to know if there any way to settle in Australia, by going for work and not by going for studies. Whether, are there any examz from here or any other way. Thanks and expecting a reply. - Rakesh, Chennai, India
Last edited by rock1483; Apr 23rd 2009 at 11:00 am.
Apr 23rd 2009, 12:47 pm
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
Hi Guyz,
I have 3 years working experience in India in Finance field. Planning to work in Australia, Done my Bcom & MBA in Finance. Can anyone advise me the requirements for workin in Australia. I dont have much idea about the conditions or requirements for settling in Australia.
I would like to know if there any way to settle in Australia, by going for work and not by going for studies. Whether, are there any examz from here or any other way. Thanks and expecting a reply. - Rakesh, Chennai, India
I have 3 years working experience in India in Finance field. Planning to work in Australia, Done my Bcom & MBA in Finance. Can anyone advise me the requirements for workin in Australia. I dont have much idea about the conditions or requirements for settling in Australia.
I would like to know if there any way to settle in Australia, by going for work and not by going for studies. Whether, are there any examz from here or any other way. Thanks and expecting a reply. - Rakesh, Chennai, India
Apr 23rd 2009, 3:06 pm
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
Hi Guyz,
I have 3 years working experience in India in Finance field. Planning to work in Australia, Done my Bcom & MBA in Finance. Can anyone advise me the requirements for workin in Australia. I dont have much idea about the conditions or requirements for settling in Australia.
I would like to know if there any way to settle in Australia, by going for work and not by going for studies. Whether, are there any examz from here or any other way. Thanks and expecting a reply. - Rakesh, Chennai, India
I have 3 years working experience in India in Finance field. Planning to work in Australia, Done my Bcom & MBA in Finance. Can anyone advise me the requirements for workin in Australia. I dont have much idea about the conditions or requirements for settling in Australia.
I would like to know if there any way to settle in Australia, by going for work and not by going for studies. Whether, are there any examz from here or any other way. Thanks and expecting a reply. - Rakesh, Chennai, India
Apr 26th 2009, 3:33 am
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Re: TIPS to GET Accountant JOB in Australia
Hi everyone,
Haven't posted for a while. I moved to Gold Coast last October on a 175 visa. I'm an affiliate with ACCA, with 2 years of Big 4 experience. Been applying dilligently for work everyday but have only a couple of failed interviews to show for it. Keep getting knocked back on the basis of "no Australian experience". Am really getting tired of it. I've even been applying for jobs in Brisbane (1.5 hours one way), every job imaginable, even administrative types. Couple that with the fact most people haven't even heard of ACCA.
Everyone tells me the same thing - you need to "know someone" to get your first job. Unfortunately, I have little network here. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm at a loss. Having such a huge gap on my CV is detrimental to my career, not to mention self-esteem. Should I just give it up and move home?
Any similar experiences shared would be very helpful. Thanks.
Regards,
Janice
Haven't posted for a while. I moved to Gold Coast last October on a 175 visa. I'm an affiliate with ACCA, with 2 years of Big 4 experience. Been applying dilligently for work everyday but have only a couple of failed interviews to show for it. Keep getting knocked back on the basis of "no Australian experience". Am really getting tired of it. I've even been applying for jobs in Brisbane (1.5 hours one way), every job imaginable, even administrative types. Couple that with the fact most people haven't even heard of ACCA.
Everyone tells me the same thing - you need to "know someone" to get your first job. Unfortunately, I have little network here. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm at a loss. Having such a huge gap on my CV is detrimental to my career, not to mention self-esteem. Should I just give it up and move home?
Any similar experiences shared would be very helpful. Thanks.
Regards,
Janice