Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
Jan 23rd 2010, 1:14 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
Hi
I returned from the UK yesterday to LA and there was extra security at the gate with patdowns and searching most baggage. There was no waiting to get on the flight after security just walked straight through to the plane. All the security people were asian and i expected to be pat down as i am a black woman and I was - this is the reality now. Pleased when i got to LA as green card holders are in the same line as citizens so moved through quickly. although there is extra security at the immigration line in terms of checking on board luggage etc.
Julia
I returned from the UK yesterday to LA and there was extra security at the gate with patdowns and searching most baggage. There was no waiting to get on the flight after security just walked straight through to the plane. All the security people were asian and i expected to be pat down as i am a black woman and I was - this is the reality now. Pleased when i got to LA as green card holders are in the same line as citizens so moved through quickly. although there is extra security at the immigration line in terms of checking on board luggage etc.
Julia
Jan 23rd 2010, 4:28 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
Hi
I returned from the UK yesterday to LA and there was extra security at the gate with patdowns and searching most baggage. There was no waiting to get on the flight after security just walked straight through to the plane. All the security people were asian and i expected to be pat down as i am a black woman and I was - this is the reality now. Pleased when i got to LA as green card holders are in the same line as citizens so moved through quickly. although there is extra security at the immigration line in terms of checking on board luggage etc.
Julia
I returned from the UK yesterday to LA and there was extra security at the gate with patdowns and searching most baggage. There was no waiting to get on the flight after security just walked straight through to the plane. All the security people were asian and i expected to be pat down as i am a black woman and I was - this is the reality now. Pleased when i got to LA as green card holders are in the same line as citizens so moved through quickly. although there is extra security at the immigration line in terms of checking on board luggage etc.
Julia
Jan 23rd 2010, 4:33 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran out.
Jan 23rd 2010, 6:32 pm
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I liked that.
Jan 24th 2010, 8:45 am
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Indeed. And funny how we managed to carry on pretty much as usual even during the height of the IRA atrocities (which, unlike airplane bombs, were much closer to everyone's everyday lives because they often targetted shopping centres...).
Jan 24th 2010, 12:42 pm
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What people fail to understand is that the term terrorist does not relate to those who once wanted to create disruption and daily inconvenience, and invoke feelings of panic and psychological fear.
The jihadist cares not a bit for that, his sole mission is to kill as many people as they can - there are no more warnings, phoned in threats, bombs planted and detonated at weekends.
There are no parallels between the IRA and Islamists.
That is not to say the point made previously is not entirely valid, in that democratic life continues on despite the threat but be under no illusion that the terror threat is not real and is inherently more destructive than previous terrorist actors of the past.
Jan 24th 2010, 5:33 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
The IRA 's political purposes and goals were very distinct to that of the jihadist. The IRA, did also, more often than not provided warnings, as killing British citizens was not top of their agenda. The intent and capabilities of Islamist international terrorist groups are far more destructive than that of the IRA. There is a completely distinct methodology between the groups despite being labelled as terror groups.
What people fail to understand is that the term terrorist does not relate to those who once wanted to create disruption and daily inconvenience, and invoke feelings of panic and psychological fear.
The jihadist cares not a bit for that, his sole mission is to kill as many people as they can - there are no more warnings, phoned in threats, bombs planted and detonated at weekends.
There are no parallels between the IRA and Islamists.
That is not to say the point made previously is not entirely valid, in that democratic life continues on despite the threat but be under no illusion that the terror threat is not real and is inherently more destructive than previous terrorist actors of the past.
What people fail to understand is that the term terrorist does not relate to those who once wanted to create disruption and daily inconvenience, and invoke feelings of panic and psychological fear.
The jihadist cares not a bit for that, his sole mission is to kill as many people as they can - there are no more warnings, phoned in threats, bombs planted and detonated at weekends.
There are no parallels between the IRA and Islamists.
That is not to say the point made previously is not entirely valid, in that democratic life continues on despite the threat but be under no illusion that the terror threat is not real and is inherently more destructive than previous terrorist actors of the past.
Jan 24th 2010, 6:07 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
Different thread, same utter bullshit. The goal of the islamic terrorist is to strike fear and to cause disruption. Killing ~300 people on a plane is not exactly likely to wipe out a civilization, now, is it? If they wanted to kill more people, there are lots of ways they could do it. They want dramatic, visible, headline catching events.
There is a difference between AQ and the IRA - the IRA were good at it. Makes sense, really. Any time one of the current crop of beardy nutters gets halfway competent, he tops himself! This leaves them with a decreasingly competent pool of retards to work with...
Jan 24th 2010, 6:40 pm
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Incidentally (and back on topic) I just had a horrible thought.
I'm flying over for a conference, as part of my Masters. My laptop and carry on are going to be stuffed with criminology books and academic papers about drug smuggling, cyber-terror, human trafficking and all sorts of scary stuff.
I'll be using my time on the planes to read a bunch of this stuff. What do you think my chances are of making it home to TX without getting a tug for being a "foreigner reading suspicious literature"?
I'm flying over for a conference, as part of my Masters. My laptop and carry on are going to be stuffed with criminology books and academic papers about drug smuggling, cyber-terror, human trafficking and all sorts of scary stuff.
I'll be using my time on the planes to read a bunch of this stuff. What do you think my chances are of making it home to TX without getting a tug for being a "foreigner reading suspicious literature"?
Jan 24th 2010, 6:50 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
Just to be on the safe side you might want to wear the cowboy boots and the stetson for the flight back ...
Jan 24th 2010, 6:59 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
Incidentally (and back on topic) I just had a horrible thought.
I'm flying over for a conference, as part of my Masters. My laptop and carry on are going to be stuffed with criminology books and academic papers about drug smuggling, cyber-terror, human trafficking and all sorts of scary stuff.
I'll be using my time on the planes to read a bunch of this stuff. What do you think my chances are of making it home to TX without getting a tug for being a "foreigner reading suspicious literature"?
I'm flying over for a conference, as part of my Masters. My laptop and carry on are going to be stuffed with criminology books and academic papers about drug smuggling, cyber-terror, human trafficking and all sorts of scary stuff.
I'll be using my time on the planes to read a bunch of this stuff. What do you think my chances are of making it home to TX without getting a tug for being a "foreigner reading suspicious literature"?
Ask your wife.
Jan 24th 2010, 8:55 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
Incidentally (and back on topic) I just had a horrible thought.
I'm flying over for a conference, as part of my Masters. My laptop and carry on are going to be stuffed with criminology books and academic papers about drug smuggling, cyber-terror, human trafficking and all sorts of scary stuff.
I'll be using my time on the planes to read a bunch of this stuff. What do you think my chances are of making it home to TX without getting a tug for being a "foreigner reading suspicious literature"?
I'm flying over for a conference, as part of my Masters. My laptop and carry on are going to be stuffed with criminology books and academic papers about drug smuggling, cyber-terror, human trafficking and all sorts of scary stuff.
I'll be using my time on the planes to read a bunch of this stuff. What do you think my chances are of making it home to TX without getting a tug for being a "foreigner reading suspicious literature"?
Jan 24th 2010, 9:02 pm
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Completely agree, with one small caveat:
There is a difference between AQ and the IRA - the IRA were good at it. Makes sense, really. Any time one of the current crop of beardy nutters gets halfway competent, he tops himself! This leaves them with a decreasingly competent pool of retards to work with...
There is a difference between AQ and the IRA - the IRA were good at it. Makes sense, really. Any time one of the current crop of beardy nutters gets halfway competent, he tops himself! This leaves them with a decreasingly competent pool of retards to work with...
Jan 24th 2010, 9:15 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
I don't think I'd fit in a standard FedEx box...
Seriously, the journey back is going to involve the best part of a day hanging around in airports and on planes & I'm buggered if I'll waste such a large amount of valuable reading-cos-there's-sod-all-else-to-do time.
Seriously, the journey back is going to involve the best part of a day hanging around in airports and on planes & I'm buggered if I'll waste such a large amount of valuable reading-cos-there's-sod-all-else-to-do time.
Jan 25th 2010, 6:07 pm
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Re: Who has flown in the past couple of weeks?
Different thread, same utter bullshit. The goal of the islamic terrorist is to strike fear and to cause disruption. Killing ~300 people on a plane is not exactly likely to wipe out a civilization, now, is it? If they wanted to kill more people, there are lots of ways they could do it. They want dramatic, visible, headline catching events.