What are the BBC up to?
Feb 16th 2018, 7:03 pm
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Re: What are the BBC up to?
Now we're getting there. Not evasion as such but tried to avoid and got caught out. As I eluded to earlier, probably bad financial advice.
The approach is legal but you have to prove you are independent, have other commitments and don't act on instruction of the 'employer'. If you have colleagues doing the same (or similar) job as an employee, you can't claim to be otherwise. Her co-anchor, Harry Gratian is a BBC employee.
If you satisfy the criteria, it's entirely legal. Unfortunately, she didn't and must pay up.
From the BBC story:
The approach is legal but you have to prove you are independent, have other commitments and don't act on instruction of the 'employer'. If you have colleagues doing the same (or similar) job as an employee, you can't claim to be otherwise. Her co-anchor, Harry Gratian is a BBC employee.
If you satisfy the criteria, it's entirely legal. Unfortunately, she didn't and must pay up.
From the BBC story:
Feb 16th 2018, 7:12 pm
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Re: What are the BBC up to?
Surely the other issue here is that here we have an organisation which relies on license payer (ie tax payer) funding to function, conniving in the avoidance of tax liabilities?
Feb 16th 2018, 7:20 pm
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Re: What are the BBC up to?
No. With respect. The BBC 'suggested' an entirely legal (and very common) arrangement. There is no conspiracy.
Yes. It may have suited the BBC but the issue is that Ms Ackroyd failed to pay her taxes appropriately. Ms. Ackroyd Ltd. signed the contract and agreed to its terms. Nobody forced her.
Yes. It may have suited the BBC but the issue is that Ms Ackroyd failed to pay her taxes appropriately. Ms. Ackroyd Ltd. signed the contract and agreed to its terms. Nobody forced her.
Here the services which the BBC sought were provided by an individual (not a company), who in normal circumstances would, could, (& subsequently did have her PSC terminated when the Revenue intervened) and as an individual providing the services should have been employed under a normal employment contract.
But having negotiated the bar-gain of a normal contract, the BBC then apparently suggested a PSC. Both parties, at that point, sought a further gain, the individual by tax limitation and the BBC by evading their Employer’s NI on an employment contract they would in all other conditions have to pay.
The fact that a company signed with the BBC and did, or did not pay, is, imo irrelevant to the parties intent & conduct in making that second arrangement; - clearly evading the BBC's normal practices and liabilities (other than for 99 others of course!).
Feb 16th 2018, 7:38 pm
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Re: What are the BBC up to?
If the BBC was an organisation operating in a difficult, highly competitive sector with very low margins AND the "provider" was forced to offer services at a marginal rate to secure some employment then maybe I could sympathise.
Mar 20th 2018, 3:36 pm
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Re: What are the BBC up to?
Update on this story:
Presenters' stress over BBC 'tax pressure' - BBC News
What utter BS. Nobody 'forced' her to set up a PSC. She accepted it as a condition of (self) employment at the BBC. If she didn't like the terms, go work elsewhere or negotiate better terms.
Presenters' stress over BBC 'tax pressure' - BBC News
The anonymous female radio presenter told the committee she was "forced" to set up a PSC in 2011 - even though she lost out financially as a result.
She said she was later forced to work on three-month contracts with "no sick pay, no holiday, no permanent contract" opposite a better-paid male staff member who had such benefits.
She said she was later forced to work on three-month contracts with "no sick pay, no holiday, no permanent contract" opposite a better-paid male staff member who had such benefits.
Mar 20th 2018, 3:43 pm
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Re: What are the BBC up to?
Update on this story:
Presenters' stress over BBC 'tax pressure' - BBC News
What utter BS. Nobody 'forced' her to set up a PSC. She accepted it as a condition of (self) employment at the BBC. If she didn't like the terms, go work elsewhere or negotiate better terms.
Presenters' stress over BBC 'tax pressure' - BBC News
What utter BS. Nobody 'forced' her to set up a PSC. She accepted it as a condition of (self) employment at the BBC. If she didn't like the terms, go work elsewhere or negotiate better terms.
OMG... 
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.. I've agreed with chawkins99 about something... Quick! I need stress therapy..... Where do I send the bill? 
Jan 30th 2019, 6:28 pm
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Re: What are the BBC up to?
Update on this story:
Presenters' stress over BBC 'tax pressure' - BBC News
What utter BS. Nobody 'forced' her to set up a PSC. She accepted it as a condition of (self) employment at the BBC. If she didn't like the terms, go work elsewhere or negotiate better terms.
Presenters' stress over BBC 'tax pressure' - BBC News
What utter BS. Nobody 'forced' her to set up a PSC. She accepted it as a condition of (self) employment at the BBC. If she didn't like the terms, go work elsewhere or negotiate better terms.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47063423
Jan 30th 2019, 6:47 pm
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Re: What are the BBC up to?
So now, the BBC DG is apologizing for this fiasco.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47063423
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47063423
In 'Privilege World' tax is one of those tiresome matters that only The-Little-Pi**-Upons, pay. Hence an apology is required from this publically funded organisation.
