Relocating Dog-DIY or Company?
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"Any longer? " I had mentioned that because for some reason, i had been told by so many dog owners 'get them sedated' and when i tell them that, they no longer do that or at least i dont think that they do because of a safety issue etc, they all seem surprised! So i thought i may had misread it somewhere. I'd rather find an alternative than have them both in the hold, but if needs must then, no choice in the matter as they need to be coming with me and very soon.
#32
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Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but you really need to consider that you may not get a fit to fly certificate from the vet if your dog is that bad of a traveller. Maybe you could start looking at options now to help calm them down. It may be worth asking pet air (if that's who you plan on using) what options you have. Maybe you could start working with a Thundershirt now if they allow your pet to travel in one?
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KLM definitely allow dogs on the plane:
https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/pre...s/index.htm#p1
You just need two of you, as JG says.
https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/pre...s/index.htm#p1
You just need two of you, as JG says.
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KLM definitely allow dogs on the plane:
https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/pre...s/index.htm#p1
You just need two of you, as JG says.
https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/pre...s/index.htm#p1
You just need two of you, as JG says.
Also, I wish my 2 chi's were considered as one being how tiny they both are. It will only be myself due to the last minute flight bookings and no one else is available to take time off from work etc to travel with me.
I hate to think they are having to go into a hold. I have been trying to find photos or hidden videos or even demo's from pet carriers of where your pet will be held and how.. Any links out there for this? Thanks again. I shall look into KLM. I like to keep it just a one trip rather than go through a connecting flight. I want to make less of a stress to them and onto myself worrying about them both.
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Thank you. Would this be from London? Does KLM actually fly enroute to USA from London?
Also, I wish my 2 chi's were considered as one being how tiny they both are. It will only be myself due to the last minute flight bookings and no one else is available to take time off from work etc to travel with me.
I hate to think they are having to go into a hold. I have been trying to find photos or hidden videos or even demo's from pet carriers of where your pet will be held and how.. Any links out there for this? Thanks again. I shall look into KLM. I like to keep it just a one trip rather than go through a connecting flight. I want to make less of a stress to them and onto myself worrying about them both.
Also, I wish my 2 chi's were considered as one being how tiny they both are. It will only be myself due to the last minute flight bookings and no one else is available to take time off from work etc to travel with me.
I hate to think they are having to go into a hold. I have been trying to find photos or hidden videos or even demo's from pet carriers of where your pet will be held and how.. Any links out there for this? Thanks again. I shall look into KLM. I like to keep it just a one trip rather than go through a connecting flight. I want to make less of a stress to them and onto myself worrying about them both.
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Many thanks.
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Here is the link for California
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/vph...portation.aspx
you need a rabies vaccination - please make sure that you allow sufficient time.
The airline will also require a vet certificate of health - but you must check with them on their procedure.
If there is just you travelling then at least one of the dogs must go in the hold. Maybe keep the anxious one with you if you must?
If your destination is San Diego, then try to use an airline with a direct flight into San Diego or you will almost definitely get charged about $500 per dog for a domestic flight, even if the airline tells you differently.
We used Lufthansa and went from Toulouse to Frankfurt to Houston cost us €350 for that (dog in the hold) and Lufthansa was great. Then we had to pick up the dog, clear her through customs with us and then check her in for the last 40 mintue flight to Austin. That cost us $450 extra even though Lufthansa had said it was included since we had got the flights all the way with Lufthansa.
A google search "international flights between london and san diego"
tells me that American, BA, Finnair and Iberia all fly direct from London to San Diego. I'm betting it's the same flight as a code share.
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/vph...portation.aspx
you need a rabies vaccination - please make sure that you allow sufficient time.
The airline will also require a vet certificate of health - but you must check with them on their procedure.
If there is just you travelling then at least one of the dogs must go in the hold. Maybe keep the anxious one with you if you must?
If your destination is San Diego, then try to use an airline with a direct flight into San Diego or you will almost definitely get charged about $500 per dog for a domestic flight, even if the airline tells you differently.
We used Lufthansa and went from Toulouse to Frankfurt to Houston cost us €350 for that (dog in the hold) and Lufthansa was great. Then we had to pick up the dog, clear her through customs with us and then check her in for the last 40 mintue flight to Austin. That cost us $450 extra even though Lufthansa had said it was included since we had got the flights all the way with Lufthansa.
A google search "international flights between london and san diego"
tells me that American, BA, Finnair and Iberia all fly direct from London to San Diego. I'm betting it's the same flight as a code share.
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Here is the link for California
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/vph...portation.aspx
you need a rabies vaccination - please make sure that you allow sufficient time.
The airline will also require a vet certificate of health - but you must check with them on their procedure.
If there is just you travelling then at least one of the dogs must go in the hold. Maybe keep the anxious one with you if you must?
If your destination is San Diego, then try to use an airline with a direct flight into San Diego or you will almost definitely get charged about $500 per dog for a domestic flight, even if the airline tells you differently.
We used Lufthansa and went from Toulouse to Frankfurt to Houston cost us €350 for that (dog in the hold) and Lufthansa was great. Then we had to pick up the dog, clear her through customs with us and then check her in for the last 40 mintue flight to Austin. That cost us $450 extra even though Lufthansa had said it was included since we had got the flights all the way with Lufthansa.
A google search "international flights between london and san diego"
tells me that American, BA, Finnair and Iberia all fly direct from London to San Diego. I'm betting it's the same flight as a code share.
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/vph...portation.aspx
you need a rabies vaccination - please make sure that you allow sufficient time.
The airline will also require a vet certificate of health - but you must check with them on their procedure.
If there is just you travelling then at least one of the dogs must go in the hold. Maybe keep the anxious one with you if you must?
If your destination is San Diego, then try to use an airline with a direct flight into San Diego or you will almost definitely get charged about $500 per dog for a domestic flight, even if the airline tells you differently.
We used Lufthansa and went from Toulouse to Frankfurt to Houston cost us €350 for that (dog in the hold) and Lufthansa was great. Then we had to pick up the dog, clear her through customs with us and then check her in for the last 40 mintue flight to Austin. That cost us $450 extra even though Lufthansa had said it was included since we had got the flights all the way with Lufthansa.
A google search "international flights between london and san diego"
tells me that American, BA, Finnair and Iberia all fly direct from London to San Diego. I'm betting it's the same flight as a code share.
They will definitely have their rabies jab a month before flight is due, I was told it doesn't matter if they have it anytime soon, as long as they've had it a month before travel. Their fit for fight certificate I shall get 7 days before travel according to the USA CDC website.
It looks like I may just have to deal with a direct flight to SD. 10.5 hrs and get some calming drops/and spray for her bedding and toys. Poor little thing. After all this worry, I am sure she'll be just fine on the other side of arrivals.
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are they allowed bedding/toys? I don't think Lufthansa allowed it for hygiene reasons. We bought a disposable liner. Although she didn't pee at all during her very long day. She waited until the customs guy was giving her a quick check...
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Your dog was very good not going toilet. I don't think my ones will be able to wait during that long of a trip. Now, when they arrive, does anyone clean them or are they given to you as they are? I doubt they will clean, but just in case, any given dog had a really bad flight of it and made a huge bad mess that it needed cleaning as not nice for them to be in their own mess.
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If you are DIYing it then cleaning up the dog is your responsibility. You can buy dog wipes over here, can you get those in the UK. I've never used them but for a quick wipe over of a small dog, I can see they'd be useful.
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But I know me, I shall provide everything for them. They have everything..
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I guess I'm just wondering what petairuk do at this end?
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NatashaB, what happened at the arrival airport? Reading through the petair blurb it seems that you have to pick them up and get them through customs yourself anyway. If you're on the same flight, won't they just put them through excess baggage?
I guess I'm just wondering what petairuk do at this end?
I guess I'm just wondering what petairuk do at this end?
Excess baggage. How do they leave your pets like this? Like by the carousel? Do they not be left at customer services desk where staff can keep an eye on them? This is all so overwhelming! And I haven't even started on removals yet! Which will be sorted this week coming.
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Florida12, if you are planning on using BA then you'll need to ask them for the certificate that they want. It may well be the IATA one - this is the one I got our french vet to fill in (in English) https://www.aphis.usda.gov/library/f.../APHIS7001.pdf We needed 3 copies of this - all originals and not photocopies.
The process for us was:
Dog booked in with Lufthansa for all flights (just ensuring that they haven't reached the limit of number of animals on each flight). Nothing paid at this point. BEFORE OUR FLIGHTS WERE BOOKED
Took her to the airport with us - went to ticket sales desk and paid for her as "excess baggage" $350. Went to check in ourselves and 10 bags(!) then at the appropriate time, took the dog to the excess baggage check in, presented documents and they took her away in her crate to the plane.
We collected her from excess baggage at Houston (we were there way ahead of her), she was wheeled out on a trolley by the handler. Took her out of the crate at customs check - she was given a lookover and the iata form above was looked at to verify rabies vaccine.
The process for us was:
Dog booked in with Lufthansa for all flights (just ensuring that they haven't reached the limit of number of animals on each flight). Nothing paid at this point. BEFORE OUR FLIGHTS WERE BOOKED
Took her to the airport with us - went to ticket sales desk and paid for her as "excess baggage" $350. Went to check in ourselves and 10 bags(!) then at the appropriate time, took the dog to the excess baggage check in, presented documents and they took her away in her crate to the plane.
We collected her from excess baggage at Houston (we were there way ahead of her), she was wheeled out on a trolley by the handler. Took her out of the crate at customs check - she was given a lookover and the iata form above was looked at to verify rabies vaccine.
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