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Old Oct 30th 2014, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
The point is that Saudi is no longer the 800lb gorilla in the room, the room now has about half a dozen 100lb chimps. With Russia, the massive increase in Venezuelan reserves, shale oil, and commercial production from tar sands, plans for commercial drilling in the Arctic, and that's only factors related to the supply of oil, Saudi is no longer able to determine the supply and price of oil more or less unilaterally.
Saudi could dump another million plus barrels a day to market in a matter of days or week. They could drill another 2-4 MMBBLD in the space of months. Saudi is playing a game of chicken with others in OPEC who tend to ignore quota cuts, leaving Saudi to perpetually take one for the team. OPEC as a whole is less important than 5 years ago, but Saudi is getting to the point where it is potentially more relevant than OPEC.
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Old Oct 30th 2014, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
The point is that Saudi is no longer the 800lb gorilla in the room, the room now has about half a dozen 100lb chimps. With Russia, the massive increase in Venezuelan reserves, shale oil, and commercial production from tar sands, plans for commercial drilling in the Arctic, and that's only factors related to the supply of oil, Saudi is no longer able to determine the supply and price of oil more or less unilaterally.
Some fracking wells can make money at $30 per barrel and other need at least $80 per barrel. Just the perception that new well construction could be delayed could cause the price of crude to significantly rise.
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Old Oct 31st 2014, 5:40 pm
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It's fluttering around.

I got it at the bulk store for $2.95G as it was cheaper than Cumbies at $2.98....an hour later after the grocery shop, Cumbies was down to $2.85

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Old Nov 2nd 2014, 12:56 pm
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$3.16 at Costco, San Diego
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The BP I have been citing for the past few months is down to 276.9, and the BP which I found a few weeks ago in the next town, is down to 272.9, which is where I'll be filling up later today when I pass that way.
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Just seen $2.63 in S Tennessee/ N Alabama.
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2.95 lowest I have seen.
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Down to $3.22 in Orange County, of course I bought an electric car in August
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.... the BP which I found a few weeks ago in the next town, is down to 272.9, which is where I'll be filling up later today when I pass that way.
By the time I'd got there, the price had changed ...... 271.9. I actually paid 266.9, with a 5¢ discount.
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If the nuclear talks with Iran succeed (deadline is November 25, 2014), crude oil production in Iran is expected to immediately increase by 700,000 barrels per day. That along with an expected increase of 1.2 million barrels per day from the US and 175,000 barrels per day from Canada will have brought an additional 2.1 million barrels per day to the market in 2014.

Getting crude oil prices up may be getting tougher for the Saudis.

From 2008-2013 (6 years), world crude oil consumption has increased by about 5.2 million barrels per day or less than 1 million barrels per day each year with most of that increase in consumption in Asia and decreases in the US and Europe (see 1st chart below).

The greatest percentage decrease in consumption was Europe at about 13% (see 2nd chart below).

From the following link, it appears that the increase in crude oil consumption is slowing.

Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
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Originally Posted by Michael
If the nuclear talks with Iran succeed (deadline is November 25, 2014), crude oil production in Iran is expected to immediately increase by 700,000 barrels per day. That along with an expected increase of 1.2 million barrels per day from the US and 175,000 barrels per day from Canada will have brought an additional 2.1 million barrels per day to the market in 2014.

Getting crude oil prices up may be getting tougher for the Saudis.

From 2008-2013 (6 years), world crude oil consumption has increased by about 5.2 million barrels per day or less than 1 million barrels per day each year with most of that increase in consumption in Asia and decreases in the US and Europe (see 1st chart below).

The greatest percentage decrease in consumption was Europe at about 13% (see 2nd chart below).
All true, but what happens to the price of oil if Israel bombs Iranian nuclear sites? Oh yeah still $2.98 per gallon here.

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All true, but what happens to the price of oil if Israel bombs Iranian nuclear sites? Oh yeah still $2.98 per gallon here.
Hopefully Iran has too much to worry about with ISIS and Syria and will sign an acceptable agreement.
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..... if Israel bombs Iranian nuclear sites? ......
It's too late now. It would have needed to be 2-5 years ago.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
It's too late now. It would have needed to be 2-5 years ago.
Depends on how much fire 'power' Israel is willing to risk.
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Down to $2.97 now round our way. Long may the prices continue to drop
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