Go Back   British Expats / Living & Moving Abroad / USA

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old Apr 12th 2012, 3:13 am   #1
BE Forum Addict
 
The Horticulturalist's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,532
The Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond repute
Default Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

We're taking the kids to Orlando next month and I don't want to cook every night and we don't plan on eating out much so I wanted to take some meals that I would make and freeze at home beforehand.

Here are the details, we will travel approx 12 hours the first day and stay in a hotel overnight (I will take the cooler into the room), next day we will get to Orlando in the morning and I assume get into our condo after lunch.

If I pack a cooler with ice and already frozen food do you think that I can keep it frozen all that time until we get into the accommodation the next day?
__________________
I-360 receipt date 15th Dec 08 (California),I-360 approved - 29th Oct 09, EAD approved 19th Jan '10 Green Cards approved Jan 26th 2010
The Horticulturalist is offline  
Sponsored Links
Old Apr 12th 2012, 3:43 am   #2
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Michael's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 8,695
Michael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

Over a 2 day period, there will likely be some thawing. If you want to be assured that it is frozen when you arrive, pack it with about 10-20 lbs of dry ice in a closed styrofoam container before you leave. Make sure everything is wrapped so that it doesn't come in contact with the dry ice.

If you don't freeze the precooked foods but only refrigerate the foods, then normal ice with water would probably be ok and then freeze the foods when you get there. Just add ice at your stop to keep things cold.

Last edited by Michael; Apr 12th 2012 at 4:02 am.
Michael is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 3:53 am   #3
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: Apple Valley, CA
Posts: 3,475
GeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond reputeGeoffM has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

I'd be wary of what exactly you're taking - raw chicken for example might not be too healthy after a period in non-freezer temperatures. But your prepared food might be. Pack tightly as much as possible, raw at the bottom, cooked above. Bigger blocks of ice are better than small ice cubes. Try not to open it: if you need to, put the things you're likely to need on top.
__________________
Two years in southern California so far
GeoffM is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 11:21 am   #4
Septic Sprout
 
tonrob's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 7,457
tonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

I think that the temperature outside the cooler will play a part in this too - i.e. temperature inside the car, inside the motel room etc.
__________________

Herman loves Pauline
tonrob is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 11:22 am   #5
Moderator
 
penguinsix's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: I live on a plane or in airports
Posts: 4,672
penguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond reputepenguinsix has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

They make plug-in coolers for the car. Basically a small powered fridge for your car. Might be an option.

http://www.nextag.com/car-plug-in-cooler/products-html
penguinsix is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 11:58 am   #6
Moderator
 
Jerseygirl's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 68,202
Jerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

Quote:
Originally Posted by penguinsix View Post
They make plug-in coolers for the car. Basically a small powered fridge for your car. Might be an option.

http://www.nextag.com/car-plug-in-cooler/products-html
We have a plug in cooler...it works quite well. I usually put frozen ice packs in the cooler...it helps to bring the temp down when you switch it on.
__________________
You can take the girl out of Yorkshire but you can't take Yorkshire out of the girl.

Saw it. Wanted it. Had a fit. Got it.
Please God give me patience and do it now.

Last edited by Jerseygirl; Apr 12th 2012 at 12:49 pm.
Jerseygirl is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 12:44 pm   #7
My Retirement Home
Concierge
 
Rete's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 35,219
Rete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond reputeRete has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Horticulturalist View Post
If I pack a cooler with ice and already frozen food do you think that I can keep it frozen all that time until we get into the accommodation the next day?
Hubby does this all the time when he visits me in NY and takes home his frozen meals that I've prepared for him when he returns to Hattiesburg. He never has a problem using the freezer paks and ice from the hotel/motel machine. It takes him 3 days to get home. Still frozen when he gets to his place.
Rete is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 1:13 pm   #8
BE Forum Addict
 
The Horticulturalist's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,532
The Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rete View Post
Hubby does this all the time when he visits me in NY and takes home his frozen meals that I've prepared for him when he returns to Hattiesburg. He never has a problem using the freezer paks and ice from the hotel/motel machine. It takes him 3 days to get home. Still frozen when he gets to his place.
That's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure. A friend suggested filling ziplock bags and freezing them to make larger blocks of ice, that should keep things better than just cubes or small ice packs.

We are planning to stay in a Residence Inn the first night,it has a small kitchen but I don't know if there is a freezer compartment in the fridge, if there is I could transfer stuff in there till the morning which would help a lot.
__________________
I-360 receipt date 15th Dec 08 (California),I-360 approved - 29th Oct 09, EAD approved 19th Jan '10 Green Cards approved Jan 26th 2010
The Horticulturalist is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 1:22 pm   #9
Moderator
 
Jerseygirl's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 68,202
Jerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Horticulturalist View Post
That's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure. A friend suggested filling ziplock bags and freezing them to make larger blocks of ice, that should keep things better than just cubes or small ice packs.

We are planning to stay in a Residence Inn the first night,it has a small kitchen but I don't know if there is a freezer compartment in the fridge, if there is I could transfer stuff in there till the morning which would help a lot.
Call the Residence Inn and ask them. I prefer to use the freezer gel packs rather than ice for two reasons...they tend stay frozen longer...and I don't like water everywhere when the ice melts. Ziplock bags aren't watertight but they will help to contain the water after the ice has melted.
__________________
You can take the girl out of Yorkshire but you can't take Yorkshire out of the girl.

Saw it. Wanted it. Had a fit. Got it.
Please God give me patience and do it now.
Jerseygirl is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 3:40 pm   #10
BE Forum Addict
 
The Horticulturalist's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,532
The Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl View Post
Call the Residence Inn and ask them. I prefer to use the freezer gel packs rather than ice for two reasons...they tend stay frozen longer...and I don't like water everywhere when the ice melts. Ziplock bags aren't watertight but they will help to contain the water after the ice has melted.
Just called and they do have a freezer bit on the top of the fridge, so I can put everything in there till morning, hooray!
__________________
I-360 receipt date 15th Dec 08 (California),I-360 approved - 29th Oct 09, EAD approved 19th Jan '10 Green Cards approved Jan 26th 2010
The Horticulturalist is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 3:47 pm   #11
Septic Sprout
 
tonrob's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 7,457
tonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond reputetonrob has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Horticulturalist View Post
Just called and they do have a freezer bit on the top of the fridge, so I can put everything in there till morning, hooray!
They're full size fidges, roughly about 70% fridge and 30% freezer - so you can get a fair amount in there.
__________________

Herman loves Pauline
tonrob is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 3:58 pm   #12
BE Forum Addict
 
The Horticulturalist's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,532
The Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond reputeThe Horticulturalist has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonrob View Post
They're full size fidges, roughly about 70% fridge and 30% freezer - so you can get a fair amount in there.
I'll need to get organized and plan ahead, I think I can take a couple of coolers of ready made meals. I freeze them flat in ziplocks, then I can get a lot more in the freezer.

We're going to do the Disney thing, and so I *really* don't want to spend hours in the kitchen prepping food.
My son and I are gluten and dairy free so I'll have to pack lunches and snacks to take as it is, doing dinner every day as well is not going to add the vacation!
__________________
I-360 receipt date 15th Dec 08 (California),I-360 approved - 29th Oct 09, EAD approved 19th Jan '10 Green Cards approved Jan 26th 2010
The Horticulturalist is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 4:13 pm   #13
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Location: CA
Posts: 402
toopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond reputetoopie28 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

I think the cooler should be fine with the ice packs - but if you have a freezer - good deal. I found this on packing a cooler

http://www.keepyourcooler.com/tionpayoco.html

I've also received frozen good that have been shipped overnight - packed in a cooler with ice packs and they are still frozen when received. Just remember to tightly pack everything.

Enjoy Disney!
toopie28 is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 8:58 pm   #14
Bob Male
Not so super superslob
Moderator
 
Bob's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Location: MA, USA
Posts: 85,589
Bob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond reputeBob has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

If the cooler has a drain plug at the bottom and you're not to worried about weight...fill the base with ice, then food, then pour more ice around it and then fill the cooler with water, it'll help insulate the gaps and the stuff will stay frozen for days...
__________________
When I was born I was so surprised I didn't talk for a year and a half. ~ Gracie Allen
You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. ~ Dave Barry

Immigrants should be tarred and feathered....Yes, I like it kinky.
Bob is offline  
Old Apr 12th 2012, 9:11 pm   #15
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Michael's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 8,695
Michael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond reputeMichael has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Keeping food frozen in a cooler - how long?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob View Post
If the cooler has a drain plug at the bottom and you're not to worried about weight...fill the base with ice, then food, then pour more ice around it and then fill the cooler with water, it'll help insulate the gaps and the stuff will stay frozen for days...
I disagree. Water is above freezing so the food will thaw and packing it with only ice can't keep the food frozen as the ice melts. As the temperature surrounding the food rises above freezing, the food will thaw. Although thawing may only be minor, it shouldn't be refrozen again since the food has already been damaged and refreezing damaged food, damages the food more.

If packing food with ice or ice and water would keep food frozen, then it should also freeze beer and soda and it just doesn't do that. Therefore I suggest that she not freeze the prepared food and pack it with ice and then put it in the freezer when she arrives. In this case, no damage should occur with the food. Of course that means she should prepare the food during the last couple of days since refrigeration can typically keep food fresh for a week or more.

Last edited by Michael; Apr 12th 2012 at 9:19 pm.
Michael is offline  
Closed Thread

Go Back   British Expats / Living & Moving Abroad / USA

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


 

All times are GMT. The time now is 7:39 am.


Powered by vBulletin: ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 1999-2010 BritishExpats.com