Dual Nationality in the USA
Jul 10th 2007, 10:38 am
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Re: Dual Nationality in the USA
Thanks everyone for your responses. Lots of really good information, and it more than answers my question. I really appreciate all of your time. Now I can start the naturalization process without worrying about losing my UK citizenship status.
Jul 13th 2007, 11:43 pm
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Re: Dual Nationality in the USA
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:13:02 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
>> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
>> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
>> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
>And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
>honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
>British.
Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
oath.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
>> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
>> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
>> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
>And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
>honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
>British.
Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
oath.
Jul 14th 2007, 12:28 am
#18
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Posts: 23,762
Re: Dual Nationality in the USA
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:13:02 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
>> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
>> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
>> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
>And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
>honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
>British.
Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
oath.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
>> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
>> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
>> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
>And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
>honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
>British.
Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
oath.
Jul 14th 2007, 12:51 pm
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Re: Dual Nationality in the USA
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:13:02 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
>> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
>> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
>> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
>And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
>honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
>British.
Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
oath.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
>> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
>> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
>> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
>And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
>honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
>British.
Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
oath.
Jul 14th 2007, 3:17 pm
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Posts: 34,649
Re: Dual Nationality in the USA
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:13:02 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
>> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
>> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
>> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
>And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
>honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
>British.
Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
oath.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
>> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
>> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
>> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
>And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
>honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
>British.
Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
oath.
But I believe everything else is up for grabs by us damn foreigners.
Jul 14th 2007, 3:49 pm
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Re: Dual Nationality in the USA
I know. I was just rattling br549's cage for his "Limey" comment, and responding to his "lying under oath" comment... Although there are some who would like to attempt to change the current rules to allow Schwarzenegger to run for the office (I'm not one of them).
Jul 14th 2007, 3:52 pm
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Re: Dual Nationality in the USA
Ignore the trolls...
Jul 14th 2007, 11:38 pm
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Re: Dual Nationality in the USA
On Jul 13, 7:43 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:13:02 -0700, "[email protected]"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
> >> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
> >> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
> >> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
> >And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
> >honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
> >British.
>
> Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
> citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
> allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
> oath.
If Congress wishes that, then they should amend the law to require
that naturalized citizens be required to request a formal renunciation
of their original citizenship under the laws of their original country
and to present a letter from that country's government proving that
they are no longer a citizen of that country. The could be given a
certain amount of time to do this, and if they didn't their
naturalized citizenship would lapse. Congress has never sought to
implement such a requirement.
Of course, there are some countries that just don't allow you to give
up citizenship, so for some it would be impossible to do.
And, since there are other US citizens who are also dual citizens,
such as those born with US and a second citizenship or those who
acquire a second citizenship after receiving US citizenship, it would
not eliminate dual citizenship.
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:13:02 -0700, "[email protected]"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> The US immigration system is saying that I can not have US citizenship
> >> if I want to retain my UK citizenship. They have claimed each time I
> >> asked that I cannot have both, and that I need to give up (renounce) my
> >> status as a UK citizen if I want to become a citizen of the US.
>
> >And they are correct. The fact is, however, that Britain will not
> >honour that renunciation and they will still consider you to be
> >British.
>
> Until they do, then there is no way that limeys should be granted
> citizenship. As it says in the oath, you must renounce any other
> allegiance. Until you have done so, permanetly, you are lying under
> oath.
If Congress wishes that, then they should amend the law to require
that naturalized citizens be required to request a formal renunciation
of their original citizenship under the laws of their original country
and to present a letter from that country's government proving that
they are no longer a citizen of that country. The could be given a
certain amount of time to do this, and if they didn't their
naturalized citizenship would lapse. Congress has never sought to
implement such a requirement.
Of course, there are some countries that just don't allow you to give
up citizenship, so for some it would be impossible to do.
And, since there are other US citizens who are also dual citizens,
such as those born with US and a second citizenship or those who
acquire a second citizenship after receiving US citizenship, it would
not eliminate dual citizenship.
