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Where in the US are you thinking of buying, and how much do you contemplate spending for that purchase? Folks in the relevant area could perhaps tell you what you would get for your money in that price range. You may see cheap housing available in the US, but it is generally not where you would want to live . . .
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That occurred to me also. Maybe possible in some states like Florida or Arizona with a lot of retirees. There are also a lot of camper parks with camper trailers that never move. They can also be bought at fire sale prices in places like Florida or Arizona. The older couple has a sudden serious health issue or one of them dies suddenly and the other needs to move back up north to be near family and dump the unit asap.
#48
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Hi Thanks for that but I think that is aimed at people that were born in the UK but have lived away for a long time, I have lived here all of my life and have paid more than 30 years NI, and also I have spoken to my doctor here as I am keeping my house and would be home 6 months a year, Would that make any difference to me and he said I would still stay on their books, I have people on some holiday that we have had in the States that are of pension age that receive UK pension and have lived over there for 50 years, which does seem terrible as they haven't given much to the UK economy and yet they are getting money from it. I don't want to immigrate to the US I just want to stay there for up to 6 months in a home I own.
If however you spend the majority of your time somewhere else, and become a tax resident there instead of in the UK, then your right to NHS healthcare would end .... until such time as you gave up your non-UK residence and returned to the UK to live, when your right to NHS treatment would resume.
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With good travel insurance there is the medical repatriation benefit.
With this benefit, it one gets seriously ill, one is treated, stabilized (even rehab'd) and then returned to home country.
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This is not what I meant. I'm not suggesting people can pop back to the UK.
With good travel insurance there is the medical repatriation benefit.
With this benefit, it one gets seriously ill, one is treated, stabilized (even rehab'd) and then returned to home country.
With good travel insurance there is the medical repatriation benefit.
With this benefit, it one gets seriously ill, one is treated, stabilized (even rehab'd) and then returned to home country.
For starters, some of the most expensive medical treatments are for cancer and those aren't going to be covered on travel insurance. If you are unfortunate enough to develop a symptom while you are traveling that would be a perfect example of something that you would immediately head home to have fully investigated and for treatment.
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I don't know of anyone personally who owns a vacation home in the US while a resident of another country. My in-laws, who are Canadian, before poor health robbed them of the ability to stay in the US for more than 2 weeks at a time due to not having US medical insurance, were snowbirds and lived in Florida from mid-November through mid-April every year. But they rented a house for those months rather than buying a vacation home and as Canadians they were not required to have a visa.
Yes, homes in the US are not built the way homes in the UK or elsewhere in Europe are built. We don't have roofs that last 30 to 100 years without need for replacement. Our walls are usually wood frame, not stone and plaster board so there is a definite increase to one's home maintenance.
Dear friends who have a lakeside cottage in upper New York State sold their main home and bought one in Florida and return to NYS to the lakeside cottage every May and return to Florida in October. They shut off all water, clear the lines so they don't freeze, lock up and don't worry about the place until they return in May. But it is a 3 bedroom/2bath cottage and doesn't need to be heated while empty in the winter.
The main problems for you are the desire to open a bed and breakfast. You cannot do that without the proper visa. If you have money to invest and can meet the guidelines for an investment visa, then you have that avenue.
Sometimes we tend to offer more negative comments but they are realistic and only you can decide how much of your money do you want to spend to purchase a home here that will essentially only be a holiday home for sporadic use.
Entering the US is always a gamble for a visitor. Only a US citizen is guaranteed the right to enter the US. I see your age of 53 as a strike against you for a B visa because the US, rightly or wrongly, thinks that is a little young to be retired. We know it is not but hey I'm not the one authorizing your visa or stamping your entry.
Check with an immigration attorney and than make an educated decision after you have their advice. Good luck to you.
Yes, homes in the US are not built the way homes in the UK or elsewhere in Europe are built. We don't have roofs that last 30 to 100 years without need for replacement. Our walls are usually wood frame, not stone and plaster board so there is a definite increase to one's home maintenance.
Dear friends who have a lakeside cottage in upper New York State sold their main home and bought one in Florida and return to NYS to the lakeside cottage every May and return to Florida in October. They shut off all water, clear the lines so they don't freeze, lock up and don't worry about the place until they return in May. But it is a 3 bedroom/2bath cottage and doesn't need to be heated while empty in the winter.
The main problems for you are the desire to open a bed and breakfast. You cannot do that without the proper visa. If you have money to invest and can meet the guidelines for an investment visa, then you have that avenue.
Sometimes we tend to offer more negative comments but they are realistic and only you can decide how much of your money do you want to spend to purchase a home here that will essentially only be a holiday home for sporadic use.
Entering the US is always a gamble for a visitor. Only a US citizen is guaranteed the right to enter the US. I see your age of 53 as a strike against you for a B visa because the US, rightly or wrongly, thinks that is a little young to be retired. We know it is not but hey I'm not the one authorizing your visa or stamping your entry.
Check with an immigration attorney and than make an educated decision after you have their advice. Good luck to you.
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Hi, We have put in for a E2 visa, We can afford to buy a house in cash and maintain it if it is about $800 a month while we are not there. We thought maybe we would buy a new one so big jobs like the roof wouldn't need doing for a while, or at least until we don't want to spend so much of the year there, I don't think it is really cheap when we are there, I think the supermarket food in more expensive than here and you can get a better cheap meal here for you money, Good food in the US is very dear, I just like going there we have done 32 states and would like to do the other 18 while we are there. I think having two houses in any countries will be expensive and I like the USA best. Thank you for all of your help.
What do you mean you have "put in for an E2 visa"? It takes a lot of preparation to submit a successful E2 application, including a business plan that indicates how you will grow the business and hire American employees. You can't get an E2 just on the basis of owning property in the US. Did you actually mean a B2?
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What do you mean you have "put in for an E2 visa"? It takes a lot of preparation to submit a successful E2 application, including a business plan that indicates how you will grow the business and hire American employees. You can't get an E2 just on the basis of owning property in the US. Did you actually mean a B2?
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I will, at the moment it does feel like it is going to be impossible to buy a place in the USA, someone said I am most probably looking at houses that might look cheap but they might be in a bad area that is why, but I am looking in South Carolina which is cheap but I am going to spend 250-300k so that is enough to get a semi decent house. We wont be getting a state pension until we are 66, which isnt very much anyway, but our private one is good and my husband is 58. We want to do it now rather than we get to old and cant do the things we want to, but if we don't get a B2 then that is it for us.
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Hi Thanks for that but I think that is aimed at people that were born in the UK but have lived away for a long time, I have lived here all of my life and have paid more than 30 years NI, and also I have spoken to my doctor here as I am keeping my house and would be home 6 months a year, Would that make any difference to me and he said I would still stay on their books, I have people on some holiday that we have had in the States that are of pension age that receive UK pension and have lived over there for 50 years, which does seem terrible as they haven't given much to the UK economy and yet they are getting money from it. I don't want to immigrate to the US I just want to stay there for up to 6 months in a home I own.
Being a British citizen has nothing to do with the NHS.
Receiving a state pension has nothing to do with the NHS.
Spending more than 3 months in another country has everything to do with the NHS. You lose entitlement to it even if you've paid millions in tax every year. Even if you continue to pay tax. NHS is for residents in the U.K.
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Accessing the NHS in your circumstances will be fine, the three month issue would not apply as you can prove you retain UK residency and intend on living in the U.K still.
As at least one person has mentioned, having a holiday home is entirely feasible, and reading between the lines you appear to have sufficient funding to cover it and take on the risks of lower quality house builds. Just consider the advice given about how immigration may start to view extended regular visits.
As at least one person has mentioned, having a holiday home is entirely feasible, and reading between the lines you appear to have sufficient funding to cover it and take on the risks of lower quality house builds. Just consider the advice given about how immigration may start to view extended regular visits.
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Paying NI has nothing to do with the NHS. NI pays for pensions and JSA (and a few other random benefits).
Being a British citizen has nothing to do with the NHS.
Receiving a state pension has nothing to do with the NHS.
Spending more than 3 months in another country has everything to do with the NHS. You lose entitlement to it even if you've paid millions in tax every year. Even if you continue to pay tax. NHS is for residents in the U.K.
Being a British citizen has nothing to do with the NHS.
Receiving a state pension has nothing to do with the NHS.
Spending more than 3 months in another country has everything to do with the NHS. You lose entitlement to it even if you've paid millions in tax every year. Even if you continue to pay tax. NHS is for residents in the U.K.
#59
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I will, at the moment it does feel like it is going to be impossible to buy a place in the USA, someone said I am most probably looking at houses that might look cheap but they might be in a bad area that is why, but I am looking in South Carolina which is cheap but I am going to spend 250-300k so that is enough to get a semi decent house. We wont be getting a state pension until we are 66, which isnt very much anyway, but our private one is good and my husband is 58. We want to do it now rather than we get to old and cant do the things we want to, but if we don't get a B2 then that is it for us.
Also watch out for the insurance because policies in the US typically stipulate that you can't leave a home vacant for more than 30 days or it will revert to a basic fire and catastrophic damage policy.
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You should be able to get a nice house in a nice neighborhood for much less than that in SC. At the prices you mentioned you're on the edge of what would be considered to be luxury housing, .... and taxes will he more and a property manager would probably want more to manage it for you. At the high 200's range upto $300k I think the running costs would be more as I had been assuming an average-sized family home around $150-$200k when I threw down some numbers totalling $800/mth. I would guess that the numbers will increase in proportion and you'd be looking at around $1,200/mth for a $275-$300k home.
Also watch out for the insurance because policies in the US typically stipulate that you can't leave a home vacant for more than 30 days or it will revert to a basic fire and catastrophic damage policy.
Also watch out for the insurance because policies in the US typically stipulate that you can't leave a home vacant for more than 30 days or it will revert to a basic fire and catastrophic damage policy.