Anti science legislation in Arizona
#136
Re: Anti science legislation in Arizona
I doubt it. Evolution is not a theory that explains the Big Bang at all.
#137
Re: Anti science legislation in Arizona
Missouri is getting in on the act too, their proposal is utterly ludicrous:
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking...ro/HB0291I.htm
From: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngu...-pass-are-you/
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking...ro/HB0291I.htm
From: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngu...-pass-are-you/
#138
Re: Anti science legislation in Arizona
Point of order, scientists don't believe in a theory. They test theories by proposing a hypothesis, gathering/observing evidence, conducting experiments, and so on and so forth eventually coming to a conclusion that their hypothesis is either correct or not correct.
It's generally referred to as the scientific method.
It's generally referred to as the scientific method.
It's one of the main sticking points I think for fundagelicals to get their heads around - scientists do not "believe" in science the way that a person of faith "believes" in God/deity of choice.
#139
Re: Anti science legislation in Arizona
So why the insistance of treating it as fact-ish as gravity?
Pete
Pete
#140
Re: Anti science legislation in Arizona
Maybe the federal government needs a specific Science Education Agency then we could use the "segregation of church and state" doctrine to keep the religious wingnuts out of the school laboratory?
Last edited by Pulaski; Feb 1st 2013 at 7:18 pm.
#144
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Re: Anti science legislation in Arizona
And it also helps to illustrate what goes wrong when laypeople confuse their usage of a word with how specialists use it.
The lay use of the term "theory" is quite different from and far less specific than how it is applied to science. Yet the Mostly Yanks of the world insist on refusing to understand the difference.
#146
Re: Anti science legislation in Arizona
Indeed, and we can predict gravity. Heck I can do it right now.
What I mean regarding evolution is, if we're still prepared to accept that it might change - even radically - why the ridicule if someone dares question it?
And consider, if fitting known facts equals proof there'd be a lot of innocent people in jail.
Pete
What I mean regarding evolution is, if we're still prepared to accept that it might change - even radically - why the ridicule if someone dares question it?
And consider, if fitting known facts equals proof there'd be a lot of innocent people in jail.
Pete
#147
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Re: Anti science legislation in Arizona
You're blowing hot air. You know nothing about this stuff, yet you feel obliged to keep opining even though nothing that you say is of any value.
#148
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And consider, if fitting known facts equals proof there'd be a lot of innocent people in jail.
Pete
Pete
#149
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Re: Anti science legislation in Arizona
As I understand it, a "law" defines the "what" and the "how", while a "theory" explains the "why". They aren't fundamentally opposed, they just address different aspects of the same phenomenon.