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Old Sep 19th 2002, 1:57 pm
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Lawmaker feels heat for deportation effort
Rep. Tom Tancredo sparked a debate over immigration when he pushed to
deport an honors student who illegally came to America with his family
six years ago.
at http://www.washtim-
es.com/national/20020919-31602024.htm

 
Old Sep 19th 2002, 2:57 pm
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Another stupid Republican thinking he's doing the right thing by calling the
INS on an honor student. This student will pay 100s of thousands of dollars
in taxes during his lifetime. I just can't believe how many idiots are
elected. Don't vote for Tom Tancredo again.

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    > Lawmaker feels heat for deportation effort
    > Rep. Tom Tancredo sparked a debate over immigration when he pushed to
    > deport an honors student who illegally came to America with his family
    > six years ago.
    > at http://www.washt-
    > imes.com/national/20020919-31602024.htm

 
Old Sep 19th 2002, 9:01 pm
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Stupidity is a person that doesn't stand up for there own country.

Came here illegally, send him back. He is no different that any other illegal.

It's obvious he can't abide by the laws of the USA. WE have enough criminals,
regardless of his grades.

Support Immigration wrote:

    > Another stupid Republican thinking he's doing the right thing by calling the
    > INS on an honor student. This student will pay 100s of thousands of dollars
    > in taxes during his lifetime. I just can't believe how many idiots are
    > elected. Don't vote for Tom Tancredo again.
    > "Mike Yared" wrote in message
    > news:3cb2978.0209190557-
    > [email protected]
    ...
    > > Lawmaker feels heat for deportation effort
    > > Rep. Tom Tancredo sparked a debate over immigration when he pushed to
    > > deport an honors student who illegally came to America with his family
    > > six years ago.
    > > at http://www.was-
    > > htimes.com/national/20020919-31602024.htm

    > >
 
Old Sep 19th 2002, 11:53 pm
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The illegal immigrant plastered his face, his name and his story in the
newspaper for the world to see and your calling the politician an idiot?

Honor student or not, future taxes or not, the law is the law and it was
broken. Tom Tancredo is 100% correct here and I wish there were more
politicians with the guts to take a hard stand on this issue.

DJ


"Support Immigration" wrote in message
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    > Another stupid Republican thinking he's doing the right thing by calling
the
    > INS on an honor student. This student will pay 100s of thousands of
dollars
    > in taxes during his lifetime. I just can't believe how many idiots are
    > elected. Don't vote for Tom Tancredo again.
    > "Mike Yared" wrote in message
    > news:3cb2978.0209190557-
    > [email protected]
    ...
    > > Lawmaker feels heat for deportation effort
    > > Rep. Tom Tancredo sparked a debate over immigration when he pushed to
    > > deport an honors student who illegally came to America with his family
    > > six years ago.
    > > at http://www.was-
    > > htimes.com/national/20020919-31602024.htm

    > >
 
Old Sep 20th 2002, 1:51 pm
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    > Lawmaker feels heat for deportation effort
    > Rep. Tom Tancredo sparked a debate over immigration when he pushed to
    > deport an honors student who illegally came to America with his family
    > six years ago.
    > at http://www.washt-
    > imes.com/national/20020919-31602024.htm


Tom Tancredo did provide a response to this article (as well as the
followup article that he had illegal immigrants doing home
improvements in his house) in his special order speech on the night of
September 18, 2002 in the House of Representatives.

His issue isn't so much with the individual student, but rather the
fact that the INS doesn't do anything about people like this who make
public that they are here illegally. It is indeed a slap in the face
for everyone who goes through the proper process and expenses when
someone like this publicly declares they are here illegally and are no
different from the legal ones.


CP
 
Old Sep 20th 2002, 3:09 pm
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"Chris Parker" wrote in message
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    > > Lawmaker feels heat for deportation effort
    > > Rep. Tom Tancredo sparked a debate over immigration when he pushed to
    > > deport an honors student who illegally came to America with his family
    > > six years ago.
    > > at http://www.was-
    > > htimes.com/national/20020919-31602024.htm

    > Tom Tancredo did provide a response to this article (as well as the
    > followup article that he had illegal immigrants doing home
    > improvements in his house) in his special order speech on the night of
    > September 18, 2002 in the House of Representatives.
    > His issue isn't so much with the individual student, but rather the
    > fact that the INS doesn't do anything about people like this who make
    > public that they are here illegally. It is indeed a slap in the face
    > for everyone who goes through the proper process and expenses when
    > someone like this publicly declares they are here illegally and are no
    > different from the legal ones.
    > CP
They are no different than 'legal' ones.
Did the Indians give your forefathers a visa?
 
Old Sep 20th 2002, 8:29 pm
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"The issue is: What do we tell all these thousands of immigrants who
are here legally and who are sweating it out to do it the right way?"

Like myself and my wife. I can't say I feel much sympathy for the guy.
It's actually amazing how many millions of people don't give a damn
for US immigration and just go about it as if it's a joke or
something. So many people don't care that they're here illegally.

If somebody is in _any_ country illegally, baring a very good reason
for it I can't understand a real argument on why they should be
allowed to remain.
 
Old Sep 20th 2002, 9:21 pm
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I can understand if this kid came to the U.S. illegally out of his own free
will and conciously broke the law, then yes he should be send back That
doesn't seem to be the case here, ge was brought here when he was young boy
by his family. He had no say in the desicion the desicion was made for him.

He grew up in the U.S. with american culture and values. He is probable
more american than some of us who were born here. There should be a law
that grants kids like Jesus what some of us take for granted, citizenship.

"Mike Yared" wrote in message
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    > Lawmaker feels heat for deportation effort
    > Rep. Tom Tancredo sparked a debate over immigration when he pushed to
    > deport an honors student who illegally came to America with his family
    > six years ago.
    > at http://www.washt-
    > imes.com/national/20020919-31602024.htm

 
Old Sep 21st 2002, 12:48 am
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How stupid. Suddenly every immigrant claims he deserves to be here
because he pays taxes.

Drug dealers pay taxes too. Should they continue dealing drugs so
that they can pay taxes?


"Support Immigration" wrote in message news:...
    > Another stupid Republican thinking he's doing the right thing by calling the
    > INS on an honor student. This student will pay 100s of thousands of dollars
    > in taxes during his lifetime. I just can't believe how many idiots are
    > elected. Don't vote for Tom Tancredo again.
    > "Mike Yared" wrote in message
    > news:3cb2978.0209190557-
    > [email protected]
    ...
    > > Lawmaker feels heat for deportation effort
    > > Rep. Tom Tancredo sparked a debate over immigration when he pushed to
    > > deport an honors student who illegally came to America with his family
    > > six years ago.
    > > at http://www.was-
    > > htimes.com/national/20020919-31602024.htm

    > >
 
Old Sep 21st 2002, 12:51 am
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"Support Immigration" wrote in message news:...

    > They are no different than 'legal' ones.

I have no problem with people immigrating to the USA. However when
someone comes here illegally, at the expense of those who waited 10
years or more, it pisses me off.

Do you like it when someone skips ahead of you at the check out
counter? Of course not. It's rude and it's unfair. Those who apply
LEGALLY should be given first preference, and then maybe we can
consider making an exception to allowing a few illegals.
 
Old Sep 21st 2002, 3:18 am
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"C Z" wrote in message news:...
    > I can understand if this kid came to the U.S. illegally out of his own free
    > will and conciously broke the law, then yes he should be send back That
    > doesn't seem to be the case here, ge was brought here when he was young boy
    > by his family. He had no say in the desicion the desicion was made for him.
    > He grew up in the U.S. with american culture and values. He is probable
    > more american than some of us who were born here. There should be a law
    > that grants kids like Jesus what some of us take for granted, citizenship.

I don't think that he should. If he was here illegally, his parents
probably are too. Granting him legal status would mean that you have
to grant his parents legal status too. I would agree giving people
like him amnesty only if his parents were already in legal status and
for some reason he "aged out".

But otherwise, it is no big deal to send him back home. He would have
more relatives there than in the USA, since his parents would be
deported too.
 
Old Sep 22nd 2002, 2:28 am
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"Matthew Brooks" wrote in message
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    > "The issue is: What do we tell all these thousands of immigrants who
    > are here legally and who are sweating it out to do it the right way?"
    > Like myself and my wife. I can't say I feel much sympathy for the guy.
    > It's actually amazing how many millions of people don't give a damn
    > for US immigration and just go about it as if it's a joke or
    > something. So many people don't care that they're here illegally.
    > If somebody is in _any_ country illegally, baring a very good reason
    > for it I can't understand a real argument on why they should be
    > allowed to remain.
Well, you don't have to understand everything! 'Don't give a damn' is your
assessment because you
can't imagine any 'good and valid reasons' for somebody to be here. The boy
was brought here by his parents. Is it his fault of being illegal?
I know of somebody illegal who came here 12 years ago. He feel in love but
for some reason he never got married. Long story short: He's still here
illegally but has an official SSN and a DL. He owns his own company, house,
pays taxes etc. Why the heck would you send somebody back like that? He's
sweating it out just like you! It's all about politics anyways. Here in the
US you are citizen by birth right, in other countries by heritage - who the
heck gives a damn? You want to be here, welcome. You want to leave, have a
nice trip. And just for the record, criminals are everywhere and in all
countries. Branding all illegal immigrants to be criminals is just plain
stupid! It just is another form of discrimination that is popular after
9-11. If 9-11 would have been done by the Chinese, all Chinese restaurants
would be out of business by now because people like to blame the whole group
of people - it's so convenient if they look different and are easy to
identify. My opinion, we don't need an INS. Just check the criminal records
of all people that arrive here and welcome everybody with a clean record or
everybody with no felony.
 
Old Sep 22nd 2002, 3:39 pm
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"Support Immigration" wrote in message news:...
    > Long story short: He's still here
    > illegally but has an official SSN and a DL. He owns his own company, house,
    > pays taxes etc. Why the heck would you send somebody back like that?

Because there are many other Americans who do the same. He is not
special in any way.

    > My opinion, we don't need an INS. Just check the criminal records
    > of all people that arrive here and welcome everybody with a clean record or
    > everybody with no felony.

If you were an American you would be singing a different tune. Every
foreigner believes that it is his right to be in the U.S. and would do
anything to get here.
 
Old Sep 23rd 2002, 6:30 am
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Holy crap no! I'll skip over the immigration debate and just state
something that everyone should be able to agree upon.

You don't want to grant citizenship to anyone who doesn't request it. Maybe
he doesn't want citizenship. Assuming that all illegal aliens in the U.S.
want citizenship is an absurd presumption. Assuming that they all want
legal residency is probably a safe bet however.

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    > He grew up in the U.S. with american culture and values. He is probable
    > more american than some of us who were born here. There should be a law
    > that grants kids like Jesus what some of us take for granted, citizenship.
 
Old Sep 23rd 2002, 12:51 pm
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Good point. They only want to use our country, and want to have the
option to skip the country when things get rough.


"Dave" wrote in message news:...
    > Holy crap no! I'll skip over the immigration debate and just state
    > something that everyone should be able to agree upon.
    > You don't want to grant citizenship to anyone who doesn't request it. Maybe
    > he doesn't want citizenship. Assuming that all illegal aliens in the U.S.
    > want citizenship is an absurd presumption. Assuming that they all want
    > legal residency is probably a safe bet however.
    > "C Z" wrote in message
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    > > He grew up in the U.S. with american culture and values. He is probable
    > > more american than some of us who were born here. There should be a law
    > > that grants kids like Jesus what some of us take for granted, citizenship.
    > >
 

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