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Old Jun 11th 2017, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by E10sp
Oh they will. Like I said I can't remember what the Visa is called but it's a relatively unknown one, apparently, and it would permit me to work.
You asked firstly about your options as your partners co-habiting GF, but then say if you're married they'll sponsor you too. So if they will actually 'sponsor' you (i.e. you qualify for an employment based visa, and they're offering you a job too, and are happy to pay the thousands of $'s etc) then you won't need to be married to go as your visa won't be a derivative one anyway.

But if you can clarify the visa/s they're proposing for both of you then the forum pros can help further, as so much does hang on that.

Best of luck.

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm
No, they won't. Unless you're their employee, they have nothing to do with you getting a visa. That privilege would be your (then) spouse's responsibility. The employer might pay for it as a courtesy, but they can't sponsor you. Quite simply - it's not their responsibility.

I recommend that you increase your knowledge. Insufficient facts is the #1 reason that people have unrealistic expectations.

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I take offence to your comment. Moving to another country is a huge life changing decision so I can safely say that I have done a fair bit of research. I must say, your comment comes across quite aggressive. I'd be interested to know what qualifies you to know that they won't?
They confirmed that they would be able to arrange a visa for a spouse under the sponsorship of the employee.
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They confirmed that they would be able to arrange a visa for a spouse under the sponsorship of the employee.
Of course they would say that, to make it simpler to understand for you, but the reality is that you are guaranteed a visa as a derivative of your spouses.
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Originally Posted by E10sp
I take offence to your comment.
That's your prerogative.


I must say, your comment comes across quite aggressive.
That's okay... I don't mind.


I'd be interested to know what qualifies you to know that they won't?
They won't... because they can't.


They confirmed that they would be able to arrange a visa for a spouse under the sponsorship of the employee.
Now you're changing your story... and you're not a spouse! Unless you're an employee they have no ability to sponsor you for a visa... which is what you wrote. They're not sponsoring you for a visa - and, unless you're actually married, they're not even adding you to your boyfriend's visa. Words have meaning.

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So, what visa type is it since you've done so much research? In your own words (and I completely agree with you) moving to another county is a big thing. I've done it 5 times and I've always known exactly which visa type I have had in each case as it such a part of your life.

If they're sponsoring you for a visa that means they are employing you so your initial question about looking for work is now moot and you don't need to get married. You are just two employees who happen to be sleeping in the same bed (which matters not to the company).

If you're a derivative you need to be married. End of story. You are not employed by the company. You are just part of your husband's "baggage", for want of a better word. We have been saying this all along but it seems you have misssd it.
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So, what visa type is it since you've done so much research? In your own words (and I completely agree with you) moving to another county is a big thing. I've done it 5 times and I've always known exactly which visa type I have had in each case as it such a part of your life.

If they're sponsoring you for a visa that means they are employing you so your initial question about looking for work is now moot and you don't need to get married. You are just two employees who happen to be sleeping in the same bed (which matters not to the company).

If you're a derivative you need to be married. End of story. You are not employed by the company. You are just part of your husband's "baggage", for want of a better word. We have been saying this all along but it seems you have misssd it.
It just shows how important words and meanings are. I quite understand the OP saying her boyfriends new employer said "we will sponsor your visa" and not realising that it actually means "If you are married , because we are sponsoring your husband, you will get a visa as well as part of his package". Happens a lot doesn't it? Posters "misinterpret" words - using their meaning of them , not the actual immigration/visas meaning. I think we just have to be polite in pointing out their errors and unfortunatly some posters will always take the advice the wrong way.
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Anyway as she's not married the answer is B-2 visitor visa with a co-habiting partner annotation on it. Doesn't matter what her bf has if they're not married.
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Originally Posted by civilservant
The optins outside of marriage are all more complicated then they need to be. Get married and it becomes very simple, you are entitled to a derivative visa, and in due course can get authorization to work.
Originally Posted by Nutmegger
No, your prospective husband's employer won't "sponsor" you, but you will be able to get a derivative visa relative to your husband's status. As stated by other posters, that may or may not permit you to work.
Originally Posted by ian-mstm
No, they won't. Unless you're their employee, they have nothing to do with you getting a visa. That privilege would be your (then) spouse's responsibility. The employer might pay for it as a courtesy, but they can't sponsor you. Quite simply - it's not their responsibility.

I recommend that you increase your knowledge. Insufficient facts is the #1 reason that people have unrealistic expectations. .....
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Of course they would say that, to make it simpler to understand for you, but the reality is that you are guaranteed a visa as a derivative of your spouses.
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Anyway as she's not married the answer is B-2 visitor visa with a co-habiting partner annotation on it. Doesn't matter what her bf has if they're not married.
If the employer is British based and the OP is British, and the OP has specialist skills or knowledge, then there is nothing to stop the OP's boyfriend's employer to sponsor the OP for an E-2 visa. The OP would not need to be married to be eligible for the visa, but she would have to work for the sponsoring employer.
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Originally Posted by E10sp
Thanks everyone for your posts. I can't remember which visa it is but I now know that if we are married they'll sponsor me too so I could work! 🙄🤗
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No, your prospective husband's employer won't "sponsor" you, but you will be able to get a derivative visa relative to your husband's status. As stated by other posters, that may or may not permit you to work.
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If the employer is British based and the OP is British, and the OP has specialist skills or knowledge, then there is nothing to stop the OP's boyfriend's employer to sponsor the OP for an E-2 visa. The OP would not need to be married to be eligible for the visa, but she would have to work for the sponsoring employer.
Obviously we now know that is the case, but you should note which of the OP's posts I (and others) was responding to at the time. As you can see from the above, the post to which I responded seemed to indicate that the OP believed that the employer would sponsor her solely on the basis of her marriage to the prospective employee. There was no mention of her also becoming an employee and no mention of the E-2.
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Originally Posted by Nutmegger
Obviously we now know that is the case, but you should note which of the OP's posts I (and others) was responding to at the time. As you can see from the above, the post to which I responded seemed to indicate that the OP believed that the employer would sponsor her solely on the basis of her marriage to the prospective employee. There was no mention of her also becoming an employee and no mention of the E-2.
Agreed, but I was responding the the flat denial by several people that it was impossible for her boyfriend's employer to sponsor her directly for a visa. That's all.

As it is, there are several gaps in the OP's story such that all of us are guessing as to exactly what she has been told.

There are significant differences between the E-2 visa and other visas that make it applicable in a number of unusual situations when the more frequently discussed H-2, L-1, EB-1/2/3, O-1, etc. visas don't provide a route to a visa.
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