MarylandNed

Yes, the title is strange. How would you renew your UK passport if you were NOT a UK citizen?

tht

If you are a British subject, they can have British passport, but are not citizens:
https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-...ritish-subject

MarylandNed

Right, but I meant in terms of the actual application process. That is, how would the process for renewal be any different if you're NOT a UK citizen? I thought the application process was the same.

BritInParis

If you're going to be pedantic it's worth pointing out there's no such thing as a UK citizen. There are six different flavours of British nationality, British citizen being one of them.

MarylandNed

It's worth pointing out then that there is no such country as "Britain" or "Great Britain" (even though those terms are often used as synonyms for the UK). The country is actually the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". That country has citizens. They can be referred to as "citizens of the UK of GB & NI" or simply "citizens of the UK" or "UK citizens".

Even the Home Office uses the term "UK citizenship" at times:

https://www.gov.uk/get-replacement-c...ip-certificate

"Get a replacement UK citizenship certificate...."

hungryhorace

The Home Office is 'not fit for purpose' to quote a former politician. So I wouldn't take what they say with too much confidence.

BritInParis

The demonym for the people of the United Kingdom is British. You can refer to someone as a UK citizen and be understood - UKC appears frequently on this forum for instance - but the term does not appear in British nationality law. Your passport refers to you as a British citizen, not a UK citizen.

They may do but it remains incorrect - "Get a replacement British nationality certificate" would be more accurate. Before 1983 you could be a Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies but the majority of British nationals are now British citizens.

MarylandNed

All understood. But to say there is no such thing as a UK citizen is just daft. A term doesn't need to be defined in a statute to be usable or understood. Similarly, US citizens are often referred to as "Americans" or "American citizens" and people know what that means regardless of whether it appears in some statute.

BritInParis

I can only assume the OP meant to say "Renewing British Passport as a US citizen" which would make (a bit) more sense.

ian-mstm

See post #17. That was, in fact, the original title of the thread... but being a USC makes no difference whatsoever to renewing a British passport. Alas, the OP has not returned to this thread to clarify.

Ian

tht

Assuming he is a USC and British Citizen, it seems to have changed since I last did it (in person in the UK):

https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports

It now asks for:

"Dual nationals
You must send a colour photocopy of your non-British passport (every page including blank pages) as part of your application.

You may be asked to show your non-British passport at a later date."

I don't recall showing them my other non-UK passport.

hungryhorace

The government cannot reasonably deny you a passport if you don't send in this information. I have no intention of disclosing my second citizenship and passport information when I renew by UK passport. It is none of their business.

ian-mstm

I agree.


I agree again! I've never sent copies of either my Canadian or US passport when renewing my British passport. It's never been an issue.

Ian

zzrmark

I believe they ask for duals to provide the details of their other passports to help prevent a glitch in the system which could see a UKC as having entered the country on a foreign passport, overstayed (as a foreigner) and being prevented from entering the UK in future - regardless of your UKC rights to come and go. One of the joys of the electronic revolution!!!

I recall reading something about it a while back but could only find this old article

ian-mstm

Geordi LaForge would simply reprogram the computer to ignore the glitch!

Ian