Re-Entry Despite Visa Waiver Overstay Years Ago?
#61
Re: Re-Entry Despite Visa Waiver Overstay Years Ago?
If they are to treat a suspect as a suspect - I suppose that's their job. Dunno about that manhandling though...
Definitely think an apology was in order if you hadn't been the wrongdoer though - that's just simple courtesy. And I've heard of plenty cops who stop people because the look the same, same kind of car etc. then saying they're sorry for the trouble as it was the wrong person.
Definitely think an apology was in order if you hadn't been the wrongdoer though - that's just simple courtesy. And I've heard of plenty cops who stop people because the look the same, same kind of car etc. then saying they're sorry for the trouble as it was the wrong person.
After all, as in the case of a car crash, an apology can be treated in court as an admission of guilt, and could lead to the suspect thinking they have some kind of case against the officer, or CBP.
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Re: Re-Entry Despite Visa Waiver Overstay Years Ago?
It doesn't matter what we think would be common courtesy. I'm 99% sure that there are even clear guidelines for Immigration officers on not apologizing.
After all, as in the case of a car crash, an apology can be treated in court as an admission of guilt, and could lead to the suspect thinking they have some kind of case against the officer, or CBP.
After all, as in the case of a car crash, an apology can be treated in court as an admission of guilt, and could lead to the suspect thinking they have some kind of case against the officer, or CBP.
Ah well, sorry you had to go through that in any case.
#63
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Re: Re-Entry Despite Visa Waiver Overstay Years Ago?
I couldn't give a damn what you think of me as a person. The point of being on here is to help me give the best advice to my friend. You're not helping. I don't condone breaking laws, but I condone the stupid immigration system in America even less either. So if there's a way around it, I'll advise her to take it. Don't like that? Your problem.
#64
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Most immigration systems in the world, UK included, are pretty similar with regards to punishing/banning people who overstay visas or visa waivers.
#65
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b) Those controling the stupid immigration system in America don't care what you think. And neither does anyone here.
c) See a)
d) Actually, it's your friend's problem, as if they take your ill conceived advice they will find themselves with a very expensive round trip getting them exactly nowhere, with a lot of aggro along the way.
#66
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They give US citizens a hard time going through immigration, do you think they care how they treat a visitor? As a born & bred native, I have no issue believing everything dbj said happened to him.
I've been reading there is a little immigration problem in the UK too, with all the eastern Europeans coming around to take lower paying jobs. I suppose they have the same attitudes as you do regarding immigration. So I hope you don't find yourself complaining about immigrants too much. Maybe if the UK immigration laws could be 'more Draconian' there wouldn't be the immigration issue and hard feelings I've been reading about regarding Pols.
Our immigration laws are set up to protect us, not you. You are not meant to like them.
I can't believe that you think your friend, or yourself, are above our immigration laws. I hope she gets to see the worst of the immigration officials, so she can be an example of what not to do. She gets what she deserves if she attempts to circumvent the law.
You're not helping. I don't condone breaking laws, but I condone the stupid immigration system in America even less either.
Our immigration laws are set up to protect us, not you. You are not meant to like them.
I can't believe that you think your friend, or yourself, are above our immigration laws. I hope she gets to see the worst of the immigration officials, so she can be an example of what not to do. She gets what she deserves if she attempts to circumvent the law.
#67
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Oh you guys! I get it now!
There's no friend, that's why he doesn't mind writing that. OP did himself a little naughty and doesn't even want to admit it to a page full of virtual strangers.
Just consider that you're wasting your fingerprints here, he's going to do whatever he'll do and the consequences will fall as they will. At least we dont' have to worry about saving the girlfriend's bacon.
There's no friend, that's why he doesn't mind writing that. OP did himself a little naughty and doesn't even want to admit it to a page full of virtual strangers.
Just consider that you're wasting your fingerprints here, he's going to do whatever he'll do and the consequences will fall as they will. At least we dont' have to worry about saving the girlfriend's bacon.
#68
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Oh you guys! I get it now!
There's no friend, that's why he doesn't mind writing that. OP did himself a little naughty and doesn't even want to admit it to a page full of virtual strangers.
Just consider that you're wasting your fingerprints here, he's going to do whatever he'll do and the consequences will fall as they will. At least we dont' have to worry about saving the girlfriend's bacon.
There's no friend, that's why he doesn't mind writing that. OP did himself a little naughty and doesn't even want to admit it to a page full of virtual strangers.
Just consider that you're wasting your fingerprints here, he's going to do whatever he'll do and the consequences will fall as they will. At least we dont' have to worry about saving the girlfriend's bacon.
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Re: Re-Entry Despite Visa Waiver Overstay Years Ago?
Speak for yourself Ray...
#71
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Instead, the jobs waltz across the border.
#72
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Yep -- but I was thinking more about CBP arresting and deporting some Glaswegian grandpa taking the kids to Disney because he nicked a dime candy bar at the age of 11. That sort of crap just makes us look stupid.
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Re: Re-Entry Despite Visa Waiver Overstay Years Ago?
I don't condone breaking laws...
Don't like that? Your problem.
Ian