Permanent move from UK to USA
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Permanent move from UK to USA
Hi all,
First time user of the forum. I've taken a look at all the FAQs and would like to ask for a little advice on immigrating to the US from the UK with my family.
I have been offered a new job in the US, and I'm likely going to accept it. I currently work in in the UK and have lived and worked here from birth. Of course, I've yet to file immigration paperwork (or rather, my company has not kicked the process off yet). I have a family - two kids both under 5 and a fiancee. We are all UK born and my partner has also worked and lived here for her entire life.
While my company has not started the discussion on immigration paperwork, I've been looking at our options, and it seems quite complicated given we are not married. Has anyone here immigrated as an unmarried couple, particularly with children? It seems like I would arrive on a specialist worker visa, such as an H1B, and my partner would have to obtain a tourist visa. This gives her far less privileges than I would have. I'm not sure what my kids would file under.
We can get married before we leave if it makes the whole process easier, but I'd rather leave it as a last resort due to the financial burden of it. If my partner travels on a tourist visa as I understand it she would be granted at most 6 month extensions while we are living there. Would she be able to apply for a change of status after some time? Can we get married in the US once we are on our feet? And regarding the application itself - would we be subject to totally different visa processing times?
Apologies for the bunch of questions, but this forum seems like the only place where we can get some wise words from folk who have been through or observed a similar situation.
Thanks for reading my post - have a great weekend
First time user of the forum. I've taken a look at all the FAQs and would like to ask for a little advice on immigrating to the US from the UK with my family.
I have been offered a new job in the US, and I'm likely going to accept it. I currently work in in the UK and have lived and worked here from birth. Of course, I've yet to file immigration paperwork (or rather, my company has not kicked the process off yet). I have a family - two kids both under 5 and a fiancee. We are all UK born and my partner has also worked and lived here for her entire life.
While my company has not started the discussion on immigration paperwork, I've been looking at our options, and it seems quite complicated given we are not married. Has anyone here immigrated as an unmarried couple, particularly with children? It seems like I would arrive on a specialist worker visa, such as an H1B, and my partner would have to obtain a tourist visa. This gives her far less privileges than I would have. I'm not sure what my kids would file under.
We can get married before we leave if it makes the whole process easier, but I'd rather leave it as a last resort due to the financial burden of it. If my partner travels on a tourist visa as I understand it she would be granted at most 6 month extensions while we are living there. Would she be able to apply for a change of status after some time? Can we get married in the US once we are on our feet? And regarding the application itself - would we be subject to totally different visa processing times?
Apologies for the bunch of questions, but this forum seems like the only place where we can get some wise words from folk who have been through or observed a similar situation.
Thanks for reading my post - have a great weekend
#2
Re: Permanent move from UK to USA
Getting married before the petition is sent is far and away your easiest solution. Discussion of any other possbile path is, to be frank, a waste of time.
You realize that the H1B is vastly oversubscribed, and even if you are lucky (at best 50% chance) that you'll not be starting until October next year, right?
By the way, are the children yours and your fiancees?
You realize that the H1B is vastly oversubscribed, and even if you are lucky (at best 50% chance) that you'll not be starting until October next year, right?
By the way, are the children yours and your fiancees?
#3
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Questions:
Why would a company in the UK for whom you are currently employed sponsor you for an H visa rather than for an intracompany L visa?
Why do you consider marrying your 'partner' who you have lived with for a while and is the parent of your children be a financial burden?
You went as far as to call her a fiancée but still will not consent to marry her for immigration purposes, why is this?
Does your present company have an office in the US?
Will your partner be happy with only being allowed into the US on a B visa for 6 months at a time as a co-habiting partner?
Is she aware that if you come to work in the US with a work visa and the children on derivative visas, and if for whatever reason she is not allowed to renew the B visa at any time and the children are here in the US that she would have a court battle on her hands to reclaim the children if you decide not to allow them to leave the US?
Do you realize that there is nothing permanent about your coming to work and live in the US as per your subject line. The H visa is only good for a certain number of years and then must be renewed. The same, I believe, with the L visa. If the company were willing to accept the expense of filing for a green card for you and your children (partner is not eligible), only then can you consider living and working in the US as permanent.
Why would a company in the UK for whom you are currently employed sponsor you for an H visa rather than for an intracompany L visa?
Why do you consider marrying your 'partner' who you have lived with for a while and is the parent of your children be a financial burden?
You went as far as to call her a fiancée but still will not consent to marry her for immigration purposes, why is this?
Does your present company have an office in the US?
Will your partner be happy with only being allowed into the US on a B visa for 6 months at a time as a co-habiting partner?
Is she aware that if you come to work in the US with a work visa and the children on derivative visas, and if for whatever reason she is not allowed to renew the B visa at any time and the children are here in the US that she would have a court battle on her hands to reclaim the children if you decide not to allow them to leave the US?
Do you realize that there is nothing permanent about your coming to work and live in the US as per your subject line. The H visa is only good for a certain number of years and then must be renewed. The same, I believe, with the L visa. If the company were willing to accept the expense of filing for a green card for you and your children (partner is not eligible), only then can you consider living and working in the US as permanent.
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Re: Permanent move from UK to USA
Presume this is a new job with a new company as you mention an H visa.
You need to get married, otherwise your partner will be applying for visa renewals throughout your stay in the US - and she might be refused.
If you are getting an H visa take into account that your wife will NOT be able to work as she will get an H4 visa.
H visa applications go in next April and the lucky ones get to start work next October.
You need to get married, otherwise your partner will be applying for visa renewals throughout your stay in the US - and she might be refused.
If you are getting an H visa take into account that your wife will NOT be able to work as she will get an H4 visa.
H visa applications go in next April and the lucky ones get to start work next October.
#6
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It seems that you and your fiancee have plans to marry already (otherwise she wouldn't be a fiancee). What is your current timeline for marriage? Since your new employer can't file the petition until April 2018, that seems like plenty of time to arrange a small, inexpensive wedding in the UK so that you have the chance to immigrate as a family unit.
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Re: Permanent move from UK to USA
Getting married before the petition is sent is far and away your easiest solution. Discussion of any other possbile path is, to be frank, a waste of time.
You realize that the H1B is vastly oversubscribed, and even if you are lucky (at best 50% chance) that you'll not be starting until October next year, right?
By the way, are the children yours and your fiancees?
You realize that the H1B is vastly oversubscribed, and even if you are lucky (at best 50% chance) that you'll not be starting until October next year, right?
By the way, are the children yours and your fiancees?
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Re: Permanent move from UK to USA
Questions:
Why would a company in the UK for whom you are currently employed sponsor you for an H visa rather than for an intracompany L visa?
Why do you consider marrying your 'partner' who you have lived with for a while and is the parent of your children be a financial burden?
You went as far as to call her a fiancée but still will not consent to marry her for immigration purposes, why is this?
Does your present company have an office in the US?
Will your partner be happy with only being allowed into the US on a B visa for 6 months at a time as a co-habiting partner?
Is she aware that if you come to work in the US with a work visa and the children on derivative visas, and if for whatever reason she is not allowed to renew the B visa at any time and the children are here in the US that she would have a court battle on her hands to reclaim the children if you decide not to allow them to leave the US?
Do you realize that there is nothing permanent about your coming to work and live in the US as per your subject line. The H visa is only good for a certain number of years and then must be renewed. The same, I believe, with the L visa. If the company were willing to accept the expense of filing for a green card for you and your children (partner is not eligible), only then can you consider living and working in the US as permanent.
Why would a company in the UK for whom you are currently employed sponsor you for an H visa rather than for an intracompany L visa?
Why do you consider marrying your 'partner' who you have lived with for a while and is the parent of your children be a financial burden?
You went as far as to call her a fiancée but still will not consent to marry her for immigration purposes, why is this?
Does your present company have an office in the US?
Will your partner be happy with only being allowed into the US on a B visa for 6 months at a time as a co-habiting partner?
Is she aware that if you come to work in the US with a work visa and the children on derivative visas, and if for whatever reason she is not allowed to renew the B visa at any time and the children are here in the US that she would have a court battle on her hands to reclaim the children if you decide not to allow them to leave the US?
Do you realize that there is nothing permanent about your coming to work and live in the US as per your subject line. The H visa is only good for a certain number of years and then must be renewed. The same, I believe, with the L visa. If the company were willing to accept the expense of filing for a green card for you and your children (partner is not eligible), only then can you consider living and working in the US as permanent.
My company is US based with offices round the world. They are sponsoring my move there in order to boost the skills shortage in a particular location. I would not have managerial responsibilities so I guess that makes a green card application a little tricky?
Indeed it all sounds like we'd be better off getting married before we submit paperwork. I just wondered if anyone else had been through a similar situation.
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You're jumping to conclusions a little here. Its a burden in the sense a wedding would be difficult to afford and probably set us into debt for a while. We would have married a while ago if we had the money to make an occasion of it. We have the option of just signing the registry office papers but I'm more of a romantic than that
My company is US based with offices round the world. They are sponsoring my move there in order to boost the skills shortage in a particular location. I would not have managerial responsibilities so I guess that makes a green card application a little tricky?
Indeed it all sounds like we'd be better off getting married before we submit paperwork. I just wondered if anyone else had been through a similar situation.
My company is US based with offices round the world. They are sponsoring my move there in order to boost the skills shortage in a particular location. I would not have managerial responsibilities so I guess that makes a green card application a little tricky?
Indeed it all sounds like we'd be better off getting married before we submit paperwork. I just wondered if anyone else had been through a similar situation.
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Re: Permanent move from UK to USA
Right.... if your present company is tranferring you then THEY would apply for a an L1 visa (depending on your role it would either be an A or B category).
Your WIFE would obtain an L2 as would your children as they would be processed same time as you.
Your wife can work with an L2
Your company can put in the L1 application as soon as they like.
Loads of people on this forum have gone through this process - including me.
You can go to Green card from an L1 visa. You should get some form of commitment from your company that if everything works out OK they will sponsor you for a Green card.
Your WIFE would obtain an L2 as would your children as they would be processed same time as you.
Your wife can work with an L2
Your company can put in the L1 application as soon as they like.
Loads of people on this forum have gone through this process - including me.
You can go to Green card from an L1 visa. You should get some form of commitment from your company that if everything works out OK they will sponsor you for a Green card.
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Re: Permanent move from UK to USA
Right.... if your present company is tranferring you then THEY would apply for a an L1 visa (depending on your role it would either be an A or B category).
Your WIFE would obtain an L2 as would your children as they would be processed same time as you.
Your wife can work with an L2
Your company can put in the L1 application as soon as they like.
Your WIFE would obtain an L2 as would your children as they would be processed same time as you.
Your wife can work with an L2
Your company can put in the L1 application as soon as they like.
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Re: Permanent move from UK to USA
3 to 4 months usually ? Mine took just three months to come through.
#13
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It’s not unusual for folks to marry at a register office for immigration purposes and then have a big ceremony at a later date, often times keeping the original quiet. It’s also worth noting that being married in the US does carry some tax advantages too.
#14
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You would be marrying in order to keep your family together — can’t think of a better reason than that! And whipping into the register office with a couple of witnesses can be as romantic as you make it. Then have the big party when the budget allows. And no, you are not the first couple to plan a quick wedding in order to move to the US together.
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Re: Permanent move from UK to USA
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