Obama's Executive Order
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Obama's Executive Order
So apparently it's going to be deferred action for x number of people and an extension of OPT for F-1 students in STEM subjects.
Whoop-te-do. The moral of the story being that if you need something sorted by USCIS/SSA/local DMV it would be wise not to wait.
Whoop-te-do. The moral of the story being that if you need something sorted by USCIS/SSA/local DMV it would be wise not to wait.
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"Under the current law, H-4 visa holders (the dependent visa for spouses of H-1B holders) aren't allowed to work. As anticipated, the executive order will reform this, allowing certain spouses who meet specific criteria to work (and subsequently pay taxes)."
Although i do not know the details.
Oh and reform to lower the wages of the average US tech worker
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I am sure as in many things political the details of Obamnesty will take seme time to become clear.
Seems the concept of anchor babies is now real. But does it apply to those in legal status?
Seems the concept of anchor babies is now real. But does it apply to those in legal status?
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The rule change that was previously proposed would allow H-4s to apply for EADs if the primary has an approved I-140. This is huge for people who had an approved I-140 but weren't able to file I-485s (because of visa number availability), obviously. Do we know if that's still the plan, or are they going to implement some other thing now? Most of the coverage I've seen this morning has been predictably crap on the details.
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If it has been made clear I have not seen it.
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It is somewhat ironic that he has given a shield from deportation to "5 million illegals" many of whom probably weren't really in that much danger of being deported anyway. So what is the point of it all? He hasn't changed anything, all he has done is dared congress to put a bill together and he altered the course of his last 2 years in office to do it.
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It is somewhat ironic that he has given a shield from deportation to "5 million illegals" many of whom probably weren't really in that much danger of being deported anyway. So what is the point of it all? He hasn't changed anything, all he has done is dared congress to put a bill together and he altered the course of his last 2 years in office to do it.
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There is a well-known story about a beachcomber walking along the shore of the ocean. There were thousands of crabs washed up on the shore, and now, in the sun were dying of dehydration. But the beachcomber spotted a little girl throwing the crabs, one by one, back into the sea. He said, “You know, there’s thousands of these dying crabs. What possible difference can it make if you throw a few back?” The little girl picked up a crab, threw it back into the ocean and said, “Well, it made a difference to that one.”
So, do you get it yet? You seem to be very vocal about a lot of things about which you really don't have a clue!
He hasn't changed anything...
Ian
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And hasn't even lived in the U.S.
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This morning on the radio, I heard John Boehner respond to the President's Order:
I'm a day labourer living in Guatemala, with no family connections to the USA. I'm willing to obey the law and wait my turn. How long will it take?
I'm a UK gas technician married to a hairdresser, living in Salford. Again, no family connections to the USA. I'm willing to obey the law and wait my turn. How long will it take?
"The action by the president yesterday will only encourage more people to come here illegally," Mr Boehner said. "[It] also punishes those who have obeyed the law and waited their turn."
I'm a UK gas technician married to a hairdresser, living in Salford. Again, no family connections to the USA. I'm willing to obey the law and wait my turn. How long will it take?
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I think Guatemalans can have a go at the GC Lottery.
Seems that USCIS hopes to have them all processed by the end of 2016.
Quite what the effect of DAPA will be on non amnesty applicants remains to be seen.
Not good would seems a reasonable assumption.
The more interesting ethical issues include those who do have a long route, how do you justify them waiting without access to the US temporarily on work permits etc.
And of course nothing that I have seen addresses the root cause of any of this. How can you bleet on about it being broken but not do anything to fix it.
Seems that USCIS hopes to have them all processed by the end of 2016.
Quite what the effect of DAPA will be on non amnesty applicants remains to be seen.
Not good would seems a reasonable assumption.
The more interesting ethical issues include those who do have a long route, how do you justify them waiting without access to the US temporarily on work permits etc.
And of course nothing that I have seen addresses the root cause of any of this. How can you bleet on about it being broken but not do anything to fix it.
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Your day labourer example would be unlikely to meet the educational minimum.
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For some, the long route can be, err... long.
You're an LPR and want to file an I-130 petition for your 23-year-old Mexican daughter. You look at the Visa Bulletin for May 2012 and see that applicants with priority dates before December 1, 1992 are just now current in the F-2B category.
When will her visa become available?
(a) We can expect that your daughter’s visa will become available around 2032, since we are now experiencing almost a 20-year backlog in that category.
(b) It is impossible to predict with any certainty because the Visa Bulletin moves both forward and backward based on demand in that category.
(c) It is hard to say because the system for allocating visas and determining when a priority date will become current is very complex and subject to factors beyond our control and knowledge.
(d) Never!
You're an LPR and want to file an I-130 petition for your 23-year-old Mexican daughter. You look at the Visa Bulletin for May 2012 and see that applicants with priority dates before December 1, 1992 are just now current in the F-2B category.
When will her visa become available?
(a) We can expect that your daughter’s visa will become available around 2032, since we are now experiencing almost a 20-year backlog in that category.
(b) It is impossible to predict with any certainty because the Visa Bulletin moves both forward and backward based on demand in that category.
(c) It is hard to say because the system for allocating visas and determining when a priority date will become current is very complex and subject to factors beyond our control and knowledge.
(d) Never!
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Perhaps this will give you a clue...
There is a well-known story about a beachcomber walking along the shore of the ocean. There were thousands of crabs washed up on the shore, and now, in the sun were dying of dehydration. But the beachcomber spotted a little girl throwing the crabs, one by one, back into the sea. He said, “You know, there’s thousands of these dying crabs. What possible difference can it make if you throw a few back?” The little girl picked up a crab, threw it back into the ocean and said, “Well, it made a difference to that one.”
So, do you get it yet? You seem to be very vocal about a lot of things about which you really don't have a clue!
Yes, he has. I may not necessarily agree with his methods, but I applaud that he's trying to make a change. It seems that you prefer to sit back and simply criticize.
Ian
There is a well-known story about a beachcomber walking along the shore of the ocean. There were thousands of crabs washed up on the shore, and now, in the sun were dying of dehydration. But the beachcomber spotted a little girl throwing the crabs, one by one, back into the sea. He said, “You know, there’s thousands of these dying crabs. What possible difference can it make if you throw a few back?” The little girl picked up a crab, threw it back into the ocean and said, “Well, it made a difference to that one.”
So, do you get it yet? You seem to be very vocal about a lot of things about which you really don't have a clue!
Yes, he has. I may not necessarily agree with his methods, but I applaud that he's trying to make a change. It seems that you prefer to sit back and simply criticize.
Ian
So he hasn't changed anything then he has? Nothing would have happened to most of those illegals had this not been passed. It's not a ressurection of the dream act which failed is it which could have changed young people's lives? But he is trying to push the issue back to the forefront again.
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