Elvira

OMG Rete! You are not a ...

















... taxi driver? Are you???

meauxna

Touche!

I wish Oregonians were known for something other than webbed feet so I had a good comeback for the 'Seinfeld isn't funny' thread. (as *if*!)

No need for apologies anymore, any of youse! It's all ironed out and sparkle has the info she needs.

Move along, people, move along.

bionomique

Well, on that note I've a question to ask. I realise that some discussions have gone beyond the pale with regard to discussing the credibility and reliability of information on other immigration boards, but this reference that sparkle made was simply informational (indicating where meau had made a comment) and as far as I can see a very innocuous one at that.

Are we to really take such an antagonsitic posture towards any other boards or refrain from even acknowledging their existence, just because someone is apt to use such opportunity to his advantage and jump in and use it as a segue to trash them? I think that stature is cowtowing to unprofessional behaviour I do believe a distinction should be made in this regard. The response you posted made it appear as if it's "Us" versus "them" and I don't believe that is or should be the spirit.

USA & Pakistan

And if you get right down to it, the OP came here because Meauxna referred to this site in a VJ post and considering that Meauxna is a MODERATOR here, that would imply to the unseasoned reader that it is acceptable to mention one forum while in another related one.

Really, I think it is a stupid etiquette rule anyway as this is a public forum and the two in question have many members in common.

Marnee

meauxna

I won't speak for Rete or what her intentions were in writing her post the way she did.

I will reply as a MEMBER of this group; I do not think we should be barred from speaking about visajourney--if anything, I consider it something of a sister site to this one, with many members in common. the 2 groups serve different purposes and have different philosophies, but the desired outcome is the same for all of us.
I think it's fair to say that there were some posts here that were not appropriate for this group; mainly someone asking members here to pass information along to the administration of visajourney, that were plain ridiculous. That it went on and on and on went over the top and I can understand why Rete got annoyed with that.

There's no set policy on this that I am aware of and I wouldn't support making one.
Bashing visajourney may be sport for some, but those comments are individual in nature and don't really call for a policy for The Group Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken.

This whole thread was an example of how the written word can be taken 'wrong' without the clues of tone and body language and a good reminder that we're here to be helpful to each other--let's just cut it all some slack, shall we?
I'd really rather there wasn't a debate about visajourney. That's my personal preference. I didn't like them trashing this group, and I don't like this group trashing them. Both groups have their plusses and minuses and neither one is right or wrong, except for your individual taste.

greensparkle

[QUOTE=meauxna]I won't speak for Rete or what her intentions were in writing her post the way she did.

I will reply as a MEMBER of this group; I do not think we should be barred from speaking about visajourney--if anything, I consider it something of a sister site to this one, with many members in common. the 2 groups serve different purposes and have different philosophies, but the desired outcome is the same for all of us.
I think it's fair to say that there were some posts here that were not appropriate for this group; mainly someone asking members here to pass information along to the administration of visajourney, that were plain ridiculous. That it went on and on and on went over the top and I can understand why Rete got annoyed with that.

There's no set policy on this that I am aware of and I wouldn't support making one.
Bashing visajourney may be sport for some, but those comments are individual in nature and don't really call for a policy for The Group Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken.

This whole thread was an example of how the written word can be taken 'wrong' without the clues of tone and body language and a good reminder that we're here to be helpful to each other--let's just cut it all some slack, shall we?
I'd really rather there wasn't a debate about visajourney. That's my personal preference. I didn't like them trashing this group, and I don't like this group trashing them. Both groups have their plusses and minuses and neither one is meauxna ohhhh know what have I caused, sorry all

greensparkle

[QUOTE=greensparkle] oh know what have I caused, sorry meauxna, I should have PMED you from the start

USA & Pakistan

[QUOTE=greensparkle] Dont worry about it, it sounds like this point needed clarification anyway.

Marnee

Elvira

[QUOTE=greensparkle]
I can't speak for Mo, obviously, but as an innocent bystander who doesn't even know the 'other board', I am somewhat bemused.

FWIW, I thought your original request was perfectly reasonable!

jeffreyhy

Rete,

I note that the BE forum rules say that we should not disparage other forums, nothing about not remarking about what has been read in other forms.

Nothing at all with regard to the particular other forum, and I note that you yourself reference the site in your pinned post about FAQs etc.

If the particular site and forum at issue, or if any or all other sites and forums, are indeed to be off limits here, perhaps some updates are in order so that members can be expected to know about it.

Regards, JEff

Just Jenney

Rete, I agree with the others here that this comment is a bit out-of-bounds.

If someone comes here saying, "I read XYZ on this other immigration forum, what do BE members think of it?" there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In this particular case, the OP was asking about a BE member's experiences that Meauxna had mentioned in a VJ post, but she didn't know the BE member's name.

Could she have done a search for it instead of relying on others to search for her? Yes -- but that is the extent of her "wrongdoing." She wasn't bashing BE, nor did she open the door to do so. She just asked a question.

The sheer mention of another forum is NOT poor etiquette, at least in my book. If it is, then I have been guilty of it many, many times. I have no qualms about posting a link on one forum directing people to another forum -- usually to THIS forum -- because I know it will provide them with more information on that particular subject than what they could receive in the forum they originally posted in.

I sort of consider myself a "regular" around here and yet this is the first time I'm hearing that BE members are not supposed to mention any other immigration forums in their posts (just the MENTION of them, not even a link). If the "regulars" are unaware of this, then how the hell is a newbie supposed to know that breathing VJ's name -- or that of any other immigration forum, apparently -- is unacceptable????

I don't know what "heated arguments" you've had with others regarding VJ, but please don't universalize it to apply to everyone and/or to every other immigration forum out there. Instead, if you come across a post about VJ, just ignore it. Otherwise, ask Paul to change the forum rules to prohibit any mention or discussion of VisaJourney and/or other immigration forums. Personally I think that's a bad move, but you can always ask if you feel that strongly about it.

~ Jenney

Sue

You are quite correct, we have no objection to other forums being mentioned (unless of course they are spamming ). We don't however, allow members to discredit other sites or forums.

I think what Rete is referring to, is that in the past, a member or two have been seen to drag a disagreement they may have with another forum over to this site, which is inappropriate, hence rule 7.

Regards

Sue

jeffreyhy

Sue,

Yes, Rule 7 is the rule that I was referring to about not disparaging other forums.

Thanks for the further explanation.

Regards, JEff

Matthew Udall

Well, since “you” are bringing it up and since it was “I” who asked for a message to be passed along to the admin of the other site (I can’t reach them directly, and as you say, they are sort of “sister” sites so its not unreasonable to assume someone could pass the request along for me) I will post a non-disparaging reply.

I no longer participate on the other site. They do not have permission to use my name on their forms page and I know they have received that message, yet they refuse to take my name off of that page. They also keep up references to some blurbs I wrote about the I-131, which also ignores my request for them to remove any reference to me from their site.

Up until very recently, they listed “you” and Rita as contributors to their sample forms. Apparently they have received the message since they recently removed both of “your” names from their page, yet they leave mine up.

So I ask you, do you think it is honorable for them to keep listing references to me on their site when I’ve politely asked them to stop doing so?

jamie_nluv

We should request that the mods close this thread. It looks like it may need to be.