marasmus

I know 1 family and 2 individuals who separately came to the US via the lottery. Its real.

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Seanus

You see where I wrote: "for example..." hence the use of naturalization as an example to better understand the process and what happens after you have the GC! And no he didn't mention Naturalization, but I chose too.

Matthew Udall

[but then for example when it comes time to naturalize, a person would still be able to do that in 3 yrs after receiving LPR status based on marriage to a USC, even though they adjusted through winning the GC lottery. At least that is the point I think you were trying to make]

Yes, I see the use of “for example”, but I’m not sure if your example is accurate. I’m posting from a remote location today (in Utah, away from my office) so I don’t have my Naturalization guidebook at my fingertips, but I believe they have a handy chart in that publication that shows how long one must be an LPR (before becoming eligible for naturalization) based on the various ways one can become an LPR.

You might be right (again, I haven’t looked it up to confirm) but my initial thought was that the naturalization eligibility period might be different for someone who obtains LPR status via the lottery vs. one who obtains it through marriage to a U.S. citizen.

No offense intended.

fatbrit

But then if you are opening up questions of morality, is it right to marry just because this is the easiest way the law will allow you to live together in the US? If you were lucky enough to get, for example, a GC through the lottery, you would more easily be able to wait to see if you were both ready rather than being pressurized into making a marriage commitment.

marasmus

Why do you assume one is 'lucky' to marry a USC? Some USCs are worser than the devil himself. If marrying is looked at as a path to getting a greencard, it would be last on the list of 'best ways to get a greencard'. Lottery would be number one on such a list.

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...If you do win, however, you'll be taking away a chance for a green card from someone else who has not been lucky enough to marry a USC.

- Eric S.[/QUOTE]

Eric S

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Lucky or not, the OP already has a way to get a green card -- via marriage to a USC. So why not leave the lottery to people who don't have any other way to gain a green card?

- Eric S.

marasmus

reasons:
-the marriage can fail, this is a good back up;
-if the goal is for ONE to come to US, why think about other people?

Do you honestly think that group thinking works at all in today's world? Everyone should look out for their lives and the future of their kids, after all everyone is responsible for their own lives+futures, not for those of others'.

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Lucky or not, the OP already has a way to get a green card -- via marriage to a USC. So why not leave the lottery to people who don't have any other way to gain a green card?

- Eric S.[/QUOTE]

bantik2005

And I suppose that USC spouse has to be included in the lottery application, right?

Seanus

I'm assuming that was just a general comment you were making, and I see your point - Be it as it may, there are plenty of people who do just that. That's their choice, their life, their problem if they get caught out.

I agree, and once again that is a decission that rests solely on the person in that position. Ultimately, who wants to enter into a marriage feeling pressured?

Seanus

I don't want you to misunderstand my intentions for posting this thread. It is not my intentions to enter the GC lottery, I do think it would be unfair to someone else If a person did enter while already pending adjustment of status, and then won.

Whether I live in the U.S or tim-buck-two is irrelevent to me, I just want to marry the woman I am in love with who happens to be a USC, and spend my life with her, which in turn happens to be in the US. So, along with that comes AOS and eventually a GC that you are required to get.

I'm marrying for love, not a GC!

fatbrit

Yep nothing personal whatsoever. Just pointing out (as you obviously got my drift) that other posters opening up the question of morality and immigration would lead to a very wide number of issues.